Best 22 AFL era. Herald Sun

[Mantastic]

Yeah Daicos is out because he didn't play enough footy post 1990. The Sun listed a minimum of 6 seasons in the "AFL" in it's criteria.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Joke Cousins didn't get in

 

[joefootylover]

Ok, just had a go on the herald website and it's really hard! They clearly don't rate forward pockets at all, the options they give are almost all what I would call "goalkicking midfielders".

Also cant find a matchup for Ablett Snr, have SOS taking Dunstal, Scarlett on Plugger and Jackovitch vs Carey, any suggestions?

 

[Mantastic]

With my team I went for a team that I think would win any game of footy and thus went pretty attacking, hence having SOS starting on the bench, for more rebound than shut down. Also Sandi as my only ruck (Goodes as back-up) because I just wanted a tap guy to get it down to the extractors.

Wanganeen Scarlett Worsfold
McLeod Jakovich Hodge
Koutoufides Voss Matera
Ablett Snr Carey Hird
Dunstall Lockett Jarman
Sandilands Ablett Jnr Williams

Goodes, Judd, Ricciuto, Silvagni

Was tempted to put Franklin in instead of Jarman or Roo but the team seemed too tall.

 

[J6shSC]

Anybody who didn't have Ricciuto in their team is ******ed. Personally thought he was better than Buckley.. Nothing against Bucks but I just thought Roo was one of the most underrated players to ever play the game.

 

[The Magenius]

Non-negotiable from West Coast are
Judd
Cox
Jacko
Peter Matera

Anything else is a bonus.

 

[jknothimjustafan]

Fun thing to do.

Don't know why people get so upset at other selections.

B C. Johnson Silvagni Wanganeen
HB Roos Jakovich McLeod
C Buckley Voss Matera
HF Judd Carey Ablett Jnr
F Ablett Snr Lockett Hird
Ruck Cox R.Harvey G.Williams
Inter Goodes P.Kelly Ricciuto

Three on the bench for most of the AFL era, so I'll go with that.

Managed to get two former Fitzroy players in there. Feeling pretty good about that!

Exactly. Opinion only. Doesn't make it wrong just proves we are different people.

 

[sr36]

Non-negotiable from West Coast are
Judd
Cox
Jacko
Peter Matera

Anything else is a bonus.

I reckon that Goodes has to be the back up ruck and that Sandilands has pretty good claims over Cox. Cox's career has probably been better, but Sandilands's peak has been higher.

McKenna would have to be pretty close to a certainty.

 

[KissmeRobbo]

Ok, just had a go on the herald website and it's really hard! They clearly don't rate forward pockets at all, the options they give are almost all what I would call "goalkicking midfielders".

Also cant find a matchup for Ablett Snr, have SOS taking Dunstal, Scarlett on Plugger and Jackovitch vs Carey, any suggestions?

Yeah it's basically Ablett Snr and Jnr surrounding the FF, their FP options are atrocious, Platten would be the best option and he only ever rested there.

From their list you could go the hard men on Ablett Snr (Worsfold or Archer) but I don't know if they could match him in the air, the only other real quality is Roos and Langford but they may not be able to match him on the ground... it's the same problem everyone had when he was playing.

 

[The Magenius]

I reckon that Goodes has to be the back up ruck and that Sandilands has pretty good claims over Cox. Cox's career has probably been better, but Sandilands's peak has been higher.

McKenna would have to be pretty close to a certainty.

Cox is essentially two players in one, a dominant ruckman and a midfielder, goodes would not get near the team on his rucking ability. Cox hurts you around the ground like no other ruckman ever has. Goodes was never dominant enough as a tap ruckman to take that mantle in an All-AFL team.
McKenna would be on the short-list but he has not dominated the competition like those 4 other players I listed.

 

[Blind Turn]

Wanganeen Silvagni Scarlett
McLeod Jakovich Fletcher
Matera Williams Buckley
Hird Carey Ablett Sr
Ablett Jr Lockett Jarman
Cox Voss Judd
Salmon Roos Goodes R Harvey

Dunstall, Ricciuto and Cousins very stiff. As were Goddard and Hayes who somehow didn't even get a nomination.
Went for versatility in my team. Fletcher could play tall and small, be a third man up and set up attack with his penetrating kicks. Salmon could be a pinch-hitting forward or ruck relief. Dunstall misses coz I reckon you can only pick one true full forward for balance. If the criteria wasn't to pick a team then Dunstall would be in the top dozen or so listed easily.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Couple things to tick off:

1. Didn't see Bradles there.

2 + 3: I admit that these players wouldn't be for everyone, I wouldn't put them all in my team, BUT I do think they all have as much claim as the guys I mentioned at the end. How does Buddy get in, before his career is even over, while Gehrig is left out? Mercuri over Peter Bell? They have Farmer but not Modra or Phil Matera?

Milne and Hudgton are personal bias, I've seen them more so it's always going to happen. The same as Pies would mention Clement or Swans fans could argue Maxfield. There are a heap of club champions who deserve to be nominated.

The point I was trying to make was that the HS team have stuffed this up and the final results will be way off the actual opinion of most people.

agree with this, the whole poll was flawed as the HS arbitrarily chose a pretty narrow (but highly qualified) group of players.
what was the problem with nominating all of the worthy players mentioned, just to stop the moaning if nothing else .. ?

 

[Cursed Cat]

Non-negotiable from West Coast are
Judd
Cox
Jacko
Peter Matera

Anything else is a bonus.

fair enough - but I just realised I accidently left Jakovich out *facepalm*

I will have to submit another team from the work computer to make amends.

I inadvertantly selected Leppitsch - awesome player, but Jakovich stepped into the AFL and performed from the word go, right as the Eagles were becoming a force, he was a colossus.

as for 'bonus' Eagles, I picked McKenna on a back flank.
I ultimately went for more Eagles than Cats, although I found room for Chappy

 

[Scotland]

I reckon that Goodes has to be the back up ruck and that Sandilands has pretty good claims over Cox. Cox's career has probably been better, but Sandilands's peak has been higher.

Cox is a 4 (soon to be 5) time All Australian. He's comfortably ahead of Sandilands at this point in time.

 

[joefootylover]

It's amazing how few Lions players are inmost people's teams. Their 2000-2005 team is clearly the best AFL side to pull on the boots, 3 flags in a row for pity's sake, that's better than the Eagles, better than the cats and better than the Crows.

 

[aussierulesrules]

No good for the modern game, wouldn't be able to employ the press and opposition would take advantage of it.

Plugger was that good he would have been able to adapt to any era so far and I think it's also very fair to say he'd be a lot fitter if he was playing now, than he was back in the days of being a "part-time footballer", when he probably ate a pie for lunch on game day!
And who said anything about this team being picked to play today? Was that part of the criteria, that this be a team to put out on the park in this day and age, under the current game styles?

 

[aussierulesrules]

Why are you continually bringing up Collingwood players as some kind of comparison to these guys? Obsessed much?

Obsessed? Has it not occurred to your brain that maybe he's bringing them up for comparison because KissmeRobbo (who he was talking to) barracks for Collingwood, so it made sense to speak to them in a language that they would understand (ie. Collingwood)? How hard is that to work out?
For all he knows whoever he's talking to may not watch that much footy, so it makes sense when talking to someone on here to talk about someone you can be very confident they'll be familiar with and the most likely ones are those who play for the team they support.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It's amazing how few Lions players are inmost people's teams. Their 2000-2005 team is clearly the best AFL side to pull on the boots, 3 flags in a row for pity's sake, that's better than the Eagles, better than the cats and better than the Crows.

Who would you have in though, apart from maybe Chris Johnson in a back pocket?

Williams was a better centreman than Voss, Carey a better centre half forward than Brown etc etc.

The only one I had in mine was Akermanis.

The key word in your post being TEAM.

 

[jacko57]

Scarlett is a better full back than Silvagni ever was, SOS was the token "current player" in the team of the century and a poor choice at the time.

I still can't understand how he was picked ahead of Dench, Southby & Moore (all of whom I saw play), or Jack Reagn (who I only read/heard about).

 

[aussierulesrules]

I'm shocked at the amount of teams not having the best player from the last 4 and half years in there team. (Gary Ablett Jnr)

+1. He'd be one of my "certainties". If not in the midfield, then the forward pocket, or bench, at the very least.
I followed Sydney back when Greg Williams was kicking ass for them and then saw him play a heap of footy for Carlton and I then started following St Kilda in 1990 and saw just about every game Robert Harvey played after that (and I don't rate either above the other, as they were both phenomenal) and I'd be just as happy to have Ablett Jnr in my team as either of them (or Judd, Voss, Cousins, Matera, or Buckley, who are also in the same category).

B: SCARLETT SILVAGNI WANGANEEN
HB: BUCKLEY JAKOVICH MCLEOD
C: MATERA WILLIAMS JUDD
HF: HIRD CAREY ABLETT SNR
F: DUNSTALL LOCKETT ABLETT JNR
R: COX VOSS R HARVEY
I: A GOODES B COUSINS M RICCIUTO AKERMANIS

 

[Benno355]

B: Archer SOS Wanganeen
HB: Hodge Jakovich McLeod
C: Buckley Williams Kouta
HF: Hird Carey Ricciuto
F: Ablett Snr Lockett Jarman
R: Rehn Ablett Jr Judd
I: Dunstall Voss Bradley Rob Harvey

At his best Rehn was an unbelievable ruckman in the centre and around the ground.

 

[gbatman]

B: Wanganeen Silvagni Scarlett
HB: Mcleod Jackovich Hodge
C: Koutoufides Williams Buckley
HF: Riccuito Carey Hird
F: Ablett Lockett Ablett
OB: Cox Voss Judd
IC: Dunstall R Harvey Chapman Akermanis

Unlucky: N lappin, Kernahan, Crawford, Franklin, Archer, Jarman, Cousins, Fletcher, Brown, Dean, Richardson, Simon Madden, Bradley, Harvey, Sandilands, Goodes

 

[SouthSwans]

Yes, your bias does come through. All the players bolded were good players, but among the very best of the last 21 years? No.

Modra would've gone very close...

Anyway here's mine,
B: G.Archer, S.Silvagni, G.Wanganeen
HB: P.Roos, G.Jackovich, C.Grant
C: A.Goodes, G.Williams, C.Judd
HF: S.Kernahan, W.Carey, J.Hird
F: G.Ablett, J.Dunstall, T.Lockett
Foll: D.Cox, N.Buckley, M.Voss
INT: M.Ricciuto, R.Harvey, P.Matera, A.Koutofides.
Emg: P.Kelly, M.Richardson, S.West.