Prediction Best 22 Round 1 2023

[Veer Right]

Herald Sun didn't have him on the uncontracted list.

I see nothing on google about him being out of contract. Looking like 2023 is correct.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

If anyone has Jones over Windhager or Owens in there side I suggest you start watching St. Kilda games if you want to call yourself a Saints fan.
Mind boggling that our fans want us to improve as a side but want mediocre footballers playing for us and not talented youngsters. I read the same crap in here constantly year after year.. It's so embarrassing and drives me crazy.

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In general Owens ( who's talent is obvious ) has not been best 22, but Jones has been down on form as well.
I'd hope that they can both improve over a pre-season, and that Owens will become that best 22 player, his game against Sydney was pretty good.

If you throw kids in and they are getting ten touches, AND they are in your best 22 with everyone fit, then you have a long way to go as a team.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Herald Sun didn't have him on the uncontracted list.

SEN say he was out of contract this year.

Saints skipper gives the latest on key midfielder

The on-baller was granted a leave of absence from the club before the 2022 season.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

FB: Paton, Howard, Coffield
HB: Sinclair, Battle, Wilkie
C: Nas, Steele, Dmac
R: Marshall, Crouch, Ross
HF: Higgins, Sharman, Gresh
FF: Butler, King, Membrey

Bench: Hill, Windy, Owens, Hayes

Makeup is:

Small Defenders: Paton, Wilkie
Tall Defenders: Howard, Wilkie, Battle
Intercept Defenders: Coffield, Wilkie, Battle, Sharman(?)
Rebounders: Sinclair, Nas, Hill, Coffield

Inside Mids: Steele, Windy, Owens, Gresh, Ross, Crouch
Outside Mids: Dmac, Nas, Hill, Ross, Sinclair, Owens, Windy?
Taggers: Steele(in case of emergency), Windy, Owens, Ross

Forward Mids: Windy, Owens, Gresh, Steele

Ruck: Marshall, Hayes

Crumbing Small Forwards: Butler, Higgins, Gresh
Tall Forwards: King, Sharman, Membrey, Hayes, Marshall
Tagging Forward: Owens, Sharman

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

For much of the season i thought Windhager was promising, but very low impact.
I would not have considered him best 22 under those circumstances.
It was only when he started getting a run with role he started helping us win games ( did we win any ) and became a best 22 player.

I'm happy he got games early even if he was (lets be honest) being carried a bit. Good on ratts for persisting through the 5-12 touch games and then letting him build confidence. He finished very strongly genuinely contributing to the team through his run with roles and earned a rising star nom

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Long is just a battler imo. One good game in a dead rubber and people fall over themselves to proclaim him the next Jack Sinclair.

He'll be wanting to displace Brad Hill for the half back role or Owens for the tagging forward role if he wants to keep his spot.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I like Busslinger but would not go for a KPD with a first rounder. We need so many pieces and the defence looks solid enough as is. I'd be looking at mids and a small forwards. Maybe chase a tall with one of the later picks.

In the event we land DeGoey and Bruhn our drafting options will open up.
Swap Hill for MmKay and it's more so.

 

[ScrappyDo]

After his last game's heroics Longy finds himself back in defense.

FB: Paton, Howard, Wilkie
HB: Long, Battle, Coff
C: Nas, Steele, Dmac
R: Marshall, Crouch, Sinclair
HF: Higgins, Hayes , Owens
FF: Gresh, King, Membrey

Int: Ross, Windy, Jones, Coops,
(Hunts and Wood stiff)

Left Hill and JB out because.

 

[Saint believer]

So. Assuming Hill, Nas, Long and Bytel gone and JDG in:

FB: Paton, Howard, Wilkie
HB: Sinclair, Battle, Coff
C: Wood, Steele, Dmac
R: Marshall, Crouch, Windy
HF: Gresh, Membrey , JDG
FF: Higgins, King, Hayes

Int: Ross, Clark, Owens, Coops

Emergency: Campbell, Highmore, Jones (sub), Butler

 

[lewdogs]

So. Assuming Hill, Nas, Long and Bytel gone and JDG in:

FB: Paton, Howard, Wilkie
HB: Sinclair, Battle, Coff
C: Wood, Steele, Dmac
R: Marshall, Crouch, Windy
HF: Gresh, Membrey , JDG
FF: Higgins, King, Hayes

Int: Ross, Clark, Owens, Coops

Emergency: Campbell, Highmore, Jones (sub), Butler

The chances of Nasiah being gone would be 100-1 if not less

 

[Saint believer]

The chances of Nasiah being gone would be 100-1 if not less

doesn't it depend on the deal?

Happy if he stays.

So you think the other four changes will happen?!?

Great!

 

[lewdogs]

doesn't it depend on the deal?

Happy if he stays.

So you think the other four changes will happen?!?

Great!

Gut instinct is Hill and Bytel gone Long stays. The other interesting one is Jones.

Nice seeing Coff back on the hbf of your 22.

 

[The_Steadier]

Don't care about anything else.

Just want to see:

A. Gresh and Sincs in at every centre bounce alongside Steele and Crouch.

B. Ratts throwing chaosball in the bin and spending the pre-season teaching the whole 22 a repeatable system which involves passing to forwards on a lead.

You know.. like good teams do.

 

[The Punter]

Don't care about anything else.

Just want to see:

A. Gresh and Sincs in at every centre bounce alongside Steele and Crouch.

B. Ratts throwing chaosball in the bin and spending the pre-season teaching the whole 22 a repeatable system which involves passing to forwards on a lead.

You know.. like good teams do.

Which one of those four is in the ruck?

 

[The_Steadier]

Which one of those four is in the ruck?

You know what I mean. Someone will be always be off having a nana nap on the pine

 

[Jade Buddha]

When fully fit there are a few not getting games.
Personally I’d look at replacing Butler with Long and exiting Jweb for Paton.
Would like to keep Owens in but we need to get Dmac, Hayes, Gresham and Coffield back in.
Will be interesting regardless of who we add through trade and draft

 

[g_TRAIN]

I feel like next year we need to give some game time to Connelly, Bytel, Sharman, Peris, Highmore etc.

We can't trot out the same 22 each week that's not been getting the job done. Time to see if these guys have got what it takes and if not move them on.

I hope Ratts is a bit more experimental with his 22 (Not too much that it unsettles the team but enough to keep everyone honest)

 

[Mikevk123]

B Wilkie Howard Paton
HB Sinclair Battle Coffield
C NWM Crouch Mckenzie
HF Gresham Sharman Higgins
F Membrey King Butler
FOLL Marshall Clark Steele
I/C- Owens, Windhager, Billings, Ross

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I feel like next year we need to give some game time to Connelly, Bytel, Sharman, Peris, Highmore etc.

We can't trot out the same 22 each week that's not been getting the job done. Time to see if these guys have got what it takes and if not move them on.

I hope Ratts is a bit more experimental with his 22 (Not too much that it unsettles the team but enough to keep everyone honest)

What a load of absolute bollocks.

You think players come in sardine cans, you open it up, and you can tell if they are a good player or not.
For starters you included Peris, who is a project player. He's showing heaps of potential, we do not need to "see what he's got " then get rid of him ( because he won't be winning games for us yet ).
Connelly. Yes. He seemed to go backwards a bit this year, or at least not improve much.
Bytel. If he's going to make a mark, it needs to be next year , hopefully for us.
Sharman. Has had gametime.
Highmore. The same old guys HAVE been getting their job done, and they are stopping Highmore getting in, and maybe Coffield ( you forgot him didn't you) will as well.

 

[gringo2011]

What a load of absolute bollocks.

You think players come in sardine cans, you open it up, and you can tell if they are a good player or not.
For starters you included Peris, who is a project player. He's showing heaps of potential, we do not need to "see what he's got " then get rid of him ( because he won't be winning games for us yet ).
Connelly. Yes. He seemed to go backwards a bit this year, or at least not improve much.
Bytel. If he's going to make a mark, it needs to be next year , hopefully for us.
Sharman. Has had gametime.
Highmore. The same old guys HAVE been getting their job done, and they are stopping Highmore getting in, and maybe Coffield ( you forgot him didn't you) will as well.

I agree with you but we need to be a bit braver about playing the strong performers from the twos. The tigers find roles for guys who perform.

 

[saint66au]

FB: Paton, Howard, Coffield
HB: Sinclair, Battle, Wilkie
C: Nas, Steele, Dmac
R: Marshall, Crouch, Ross
HF: Higgins, Sharman, Gresh
FF: Butler, King, Membrey

Bench: Hill, Windy, Owens, Hayes

Makeup is:

Small Defenders: Paton, Wilkie
Tall Defenders: Howard, Wilkie, Battle
Intercept Defenders: Coffield, Wilkie, Battle, Sharman(?)
Rebounders: Sinclair, Nas, Hill, Coffield

Inside Mids: Steele, Windy, Owens, Gresh, Ross, Crouch
Outside Mids: Dmac, Nas, Hill, Ross, Sinclair, Owens, Windy?
Taggers: Steele(in case of emergency), Windy, Owens, Ross

Forward Mids: Windy, Owens, Gresh, Steele

Ruck: Marshall, Hayes

Crumbing Small Forwards: Butler, Higgins, Gresh
Tall Forwards: King, Sharman, Membrey, Hayes, Marshall
Tagging Forward: Owens, Sharman

If we do indeed lose Hill, Clark and Long, I reckon JB squeezes into our best 22 lol

 

[ScrappyDo]

If we do indeed lose Hill, Clark and Long, I reckon JB squeezes into our best 22 lol

 

[Thesharks]

Will Hayes

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Will Hayes

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.4

3star

be back by round one?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Will Hayes be back by round one?

ACL's can be 6 to 12 months. His injury was late April so lacking any news, 10 months is a reasonable timeframe.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

It's pretty strange that it looks like we won't have any new players in our best 22 next year, unless any of our draft picks establish themselves early.

My first 22

B: Paton, Howard, Wilkie
HB: Sinclair, Battle, Coffield
C: Hill, Steele, Wood
HF: Gresham, Hayes, Owens
F: Higgins, King, Membrey

Foll: Marshall, Crouch, Windhager
Int: Jones, Ross, Clark, Billings


Best team we could field from the rest of the current list:

B: Webster, Cordy, Adams
HB: Lienert*, Highmore, Connolly
C: McKenzie, Bytel*, Wangmil
HF: Peris, Allison, ***
F: Heath, Sharman, Butler

Foll: Campbell, Byrnes, ***


Those lists show me that we have pretty solid defensive depth and enough options to play on the wing but we're lacking everywhere else. It also suggests to me that we should definitely keep Bytel considering our lack of midfield depth in reserve.