Best aerialist you have seen?

[DangerSloane]

how would you know this when most of Ablett Snr games have never been seen before?
Throughout the 80's, there were none better.

Tom Hafey once visited the school and gave a speech and he was asked a question about Snr, his very words were "he use to take mark of the year every week" I think I'll take Tom's word over yours as he not only coached Snr but he also coached throughout the 1980's.

And when did he get asked this question? Clearly would've been before Howe.
He was also speaking ABOUT ABLETT. Ive heard that phrase used with Modra, Robertson, Burton. Its an exageration. The only player to actually take mark of the year every week is Jeremy Howe.

 

[Grizzly_82]

Regularly being three or four a season, not three or four a month like Howe.
Sorry but you're wrong. Howe has taking almost as many speccies as Ablett and he hasnt played a quarter of the games.

Same with Modra, Burton, Smith, Tarrant. It was always 4-5 massive ones a season but Howe literally takes on every game.

I grew up watching Ablett and Modra I think I know what I'm talking about

Yes Howe takes some good marks playing for a pathetic team , Ablett and Modra's mark were just as regular and far more impressive.

 

[ProudCat]

The first aerialist I remember was Phil Baker at North, he took a number a great marks in the late 70's. Peter Knights and Peter Moore were a couple of others that I remember back all those moons ago. In the 80's and early 90's Shaun Smith, Brett Allison and Wayne Carey took a few, but Gary Ablett Snr seemed to take one every week. He had unbelievable aerial skills.

Agree with your whole post. That Allison mark where he stood on the guys shoulders was one of the great marks of all time IMO. Was not crouched either if my memory serves me correctly, standing fully upright on top of someone (maybe a melbourne player? can't remember) - much like Smith's mark.

 

[krisholio14]

I think Howe stands out a fair bit more these days because you don't have blokes flying for marks like they used to.

Here's a montage of some of The Flying Dutchman's best.....

 

[eaglespremiers]

 

[DangerSloane]

I grew up watching Ablett and Modra I think I know what I'm talking about

Yes Howe takes some good marks playing for a pathetic team , Ablett and Modra's mark were just as regular and far more impressive.

I grew up watching them too, but both of these comments are plain wrong.
Howe's are as impressive and far more regular.

 

[CURVE]

Agree with your whole post. That Allison mark where he stood on the guys shoulders was one of the great marks of all time IMO. Was not crouched either if my memory serves me correctly, standing fully upright on top of someone (maybe a melbourne player? can't remember) - much like Smith's mark.

Gavin Crosisca of Collingwood

 

[krisholio14]

I grew up watching them too, but both of these comments are plain wrong.
Howe's are as impressive and far more regular.

I've already showed Snr took speccy after speccy in his first few years, and in 93-94 Modra was putting in a contender nearly every week. He was still taking them 6 years later after busting his knee, but not as often.

 

[Thurlow2Mackie]

Jeremy Howe. End of thread.

 

[ProudCat]

I grew up watching them too, but both of these comments are plain wrong.
Howe's are as impressive and far more regular.

As others have stated TV coverage was nowhere near where it is today and a lot of marks were missed. I reckon I watched Gazza live well over 100 times and he would take your breath away every game. He did take contenders for mark of the week just about every week.

I do rate Howe though. Fantastic mark and he does it regularly. I think we just forget how good some of these older blokes were as our memories fade and also if you weren't watching them week in week out, you would have missed plenty.

 

[jacko57]

anyone mention the game where Knights & Van Der Haar went head to head at Windy Hill?

 

[krisholio14]

anyone mention the game where Knights & Van Der Haar went head to head at Windy Hill?

 

[Thaihawk]

Peter Knights on a weekly basis.

Maybe I'm biased but every week Knights would pull down one or two. Like the look of Howe nowadays, he constantly takes spectacular grabs. Most others would only grab one a couple of times a season, and drop their share also.

Knights v Van Der Harr was usually worth the entry fee.

 

[The_Reaper]

Modra

Though during primary school we used to yell out 'Capper' during King of the Pack

 

[huh what?]

Billy Picken,Brett Burton

 

[kaysee]

Simon Madden

 

[The full package]

Richooooo

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Good watch that.
I loved footy so much in this time but haha geez half the league would have been rubbed out for majority of the season!
Just a different game.

 

[LouisCK]

Ablett snr took species nearly every single game it's an insult to allow a player like Howe to be in the same sentence .

And the marks Ablett snr took along with Modra were harder and far more impressively than Howe had managed so far in his Career.

Also helps that Howe only has to focus on taking extreme marks that does nothing to help his team in the context of the game.

Kids theses days

Yeah 4 goals including 3 in the last quarter when the game was there to be won, Howe is just a one trick pony hey.

Ablett played in an era where you could put your hands onto another players shoulders. And you were mostly dealing with one one one situations. The degree of difficulty for Howe is substantially higher than what Ablett faced.

Ablett obviously the better player, but purely as an aerialist, I'm not sure there's ever been someone as consistently awesome as Jeremy Howe. Last year the 'top ten marks' featured like 8 Jeremy Howe marks.

The Demons have had plenty of high flyers in my time, Farmer, Jurrah, Smith, Robertson, Yze, White.... none of them are close to Howe as far as degree of difficulty or consistency goes.

 

[scottwade]

EFA

10s: Howe
00s: Burton, Russell Robertson
90s: Shaun Smith, Mods
80s/90s: GAS
80s: Capper
70s/80s: Van Der Haar, Knights, Barker, Picken, Roach
60s/70s: Jezza
50s: Have heard Coleman was a great aeralist too, and from the same era, Ian McKay of North Adelaide (have posted pictorial evidence of his marking in another thread)
30s: Bob Pratt, Ron Todd (also from pictorial and anecdotal evidence)

Up there Cazaly.

 

[Grizzly_82]

Yeah 4 goals including 3 in the last quarter when the game was there to be won, Howe is just a one trick pony hey.

Ablett played in an era where you could put your hands onto another players shoulders. And you were mostly dealing with one one one situations. The degree of difficulty for Howe is substantially higher than what Ablett faced.

Ablett obviously the better player, but purely as an aerialist, I'm not sure there's ever been someone as consistently awesome as Jeremy Howe. Last year the 'top ten marks' featured like 8 Jeremy Howe marks.

The Demons have had plenty of high flyers in my time, Farmer, Jurrah, Smith, Robertson, Yze, White.... none of them are close to Howe as far as degree of difficulty or consistency goes.

Kids theses days

If you have grown up watching past legends you would realise how overrated Howe's marks are.

Does he takes good marks? Yes

Better than previous players? No way

 

[LouisCK]

Kids theses days

If you have grown up watching past legends you would realise how overrated Howe's marks are.

Does he takes good marks? Yes

Better than previous players? No way

Assuming '82 refers to you year of birth, we're the same age.

I think you're just being biased because you're a Geelong supporter. It's an objective truth that it's harder to take speccies in today's game, yet Howe still does it every week, and some of his are as spectacular as any of hte great high flyers I've seen.

 

[Grizzly_82]

Assuming '82 refers to you year of birth, we're the same age.

I think you're just being biased because you're a Geelong supporter. It's an objective truth that it's harder to take speccies in today's game, yet Howe still does it every week, and some of his are as spectacular as any of hte great high flyers I've seen.

So my bias stops me from referring to other players besides Ablett?

Cool story

Howe had nothing else to contribute to his team but to take "mark of the year" and stuff up his team structure by doing so. To claim his has more abilities in the air than Ablett, Modra , Capper and many other past players who not only had more abilities in their leap and contested marking but as players as well is a pure insult.

I would say your bias is clouding the fact that Howe's marks are the only thing that Melbourne fans have to look forwarded up and thus clouding YOUR judgements which causes you to overrate him.

 

[LouisCK]

The thread is about ability as an aerialist, not about their other abilities. I think you're confused.

Your bias is stopping you from acknowledging Howe's consistently difficult marks, in an era where its harder to take a speccy.

I hope that's clear to you now, and you can cease with the insults.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Assuming '82 refers to you year of birth, we're the same age.

I think you're just being biased because you're a Geelong supporter. It's an objective truth that it's harder to take speccies in today's game, yet Howe still does it every week, and some of his are as spectacular as any of hte great high flyers I've seen.

That is true but maybe Howe isnt being checked as tightly as he should because Melbourne are so shit. If he keeps doing it after Melbourne have improved (two big ifs) I'll be impressed.