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Best Draft Picks 25-1
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All this prooves is that no.1 picks aren't necessarily that great.
budge11
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Cooney has played all positions forwards during some games and with great effect and IIRC he played across half back for a couple. He's pretty versatile...
Not yet.
When he plays an intrumental role in 3 Premierships then he's done his job, until then he's still wet behind the ears.
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Typical of the AFL!
Nigel Lappin is the best No. 2 pick for the Brisbane Lions because he was selected by the Brisbane Bears, yet Leon Cameron is preferred to Chris Johnson who was selected by Fitzroy in 1993 at No. 7.
Johnson went on to play 264 games, kicked 172 goals and was a three time premiership player, joint captain, twice All Australian and was in the Indigenous Team of the Century. Johnson's career certainly stacks up very favorably against Leon Cameron's.
I agree, Hodge can play anywhere, as long as he has no opponent.
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Whilst I love Buddy and my Hawks, I reckon Power is the correct choice. Franklin may turn out to be the best player ever selected at No. 5, but he hasn't quite achieved that yet. Touch wood it never happens, but if Buddy sustains a career-ending injury in Round 1 2009, he hasn't achieved enough over a long period of time to topple Power.
Power is the right choice.
However, I do take exception to Reiwoldt over Hodge. Whilst Reiwoldt is a walk-up start in any side, he just lacks polish in my book. His goalkicking is more often than not unreliable, he goes missing for 2-3 week intervals on a regular basis and he's not a premiership player. All very well to achieve all these great individual awards, but AFL football is ultimately a team game and IMHO, Hodge adds more value to the team than Reowoldt.
Hodge is the best No. 1 draft pick ever.
Halk Tawker
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That's garbage mate. If the opposition coach allows Hodgey to run around without an opponent, does that equate to him having an inability to play well when he does have an opponent? Of course not, you're speaking nonsense.
I suggest you get a tape of the 2007 Elimination Final against Adelaide. Buddy got all the accolades that day for kicking the winning goal, but take a close look at Hodge's game and you will get a big reality check about whether or not Hodge can play well when he has an opponent.
Hodgey is a gun, with or without an opponent.
Halk Tawker
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Hey there THRILLHO,
As long as the Hawks keep winning premierships and Hodgey keeps winning Norm Smiths, Reiwoldt can help himself to as many St Kilda B&Fs as he likes. Just ask Robert Harvey whether or not he'd trade his plethora of B&Fs for one premiership...
Oh and by the way, Luke Hodge was the Peter Crimmins medallist in 2005, so he can do it all son!
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I don't rate them that far apart but I personally rate Cameron just ahead of Johnson. Mentioning premierships and things like the Indigenous Team of the Century is ridiculous when comparing players.
Not great if you have go back over a year to find a game to try and support your argument.
I do agree about Buddy though - almost lost you that game before he won it.
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This is comparing the individuals. Why you said AFL is a team game is beyond me - Hodge isn't a team. All that mentioning the team game thing means is that the reason Riewoldt hasn't won a premiership is because his teammates haven't been good enough. One man can't win a premiership on his own, but if he could, I'd back Riewoldt to do it before Hodge did, easily.
He gets all of those individual awards for a reason, and Hodge doesn't get them for a similar reason. He is simply a better player. Count up the premierships if you like, but the premierships rely more on the teammates than the individual.
Halk Tawker
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Ho hum...I didn't have to go back a year to find it, but it's just the one that springs to mind. In 2008, there was the game against Brisbane up at the Gabba, the game against Adelaide at Aami, the game against North in Round 3 at TD, another game earlier in the year where he kicked 5 I think (don't remember seeing him running around opponentless in any of those games).
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D&T Board had a thread on this - titled "the curse of pick 4", which quickly turned into a discussion about the ordinariness of just about everyone taken with pick 6. The consensus over there was that Salopek already has the rest covered.
Halk Tawker
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He doesn't? What is the Norm Smith medal? What is the Peter Crimmins medal?
I was actually pointing out that Hodge does it all. Don't get me wrong, I reckon Reiwoldt is a fantastic footballer and I'd have him at the Hawks in a second, but Hodge shades him as the best ever No. 1 draft pick IMO... Call it biased, call it ignorant, call it whatever the hell you want, I don't care, it's simply my opinion.
Just because Hodge has a premiership doesn't make him a better player than Roo.
You could use the NS to argue it, yes. But a premiership is a team thing, not an individual achievement.
Roo's a gun KPP, Hodge is a gun midfielder/back flanker. What would you rather, and what position is much harder to do well in? Of course when you've got Buddy and Rough in your forward line, you'd take a Hodge. But I reckon most teams would rather Roo in their side.
You could use the NS to argue it, yes. But a premiership is a team thing, not an individual achievement.
Roo's a gun KPP, Hodge is a gun midfielder/back flanker. What would you rather, and what position is much harder to do well in? Of course when you've got Buddy and Rough in your forward line, you'd take a Hodge. But I reckon most teams would rather Roo in their side.
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How about from 26 to about 64:
26. T.Notting (J.Rivers, B.Holland)
27. K.Johnson (S.Baker, T.Cook)
28. J.Johnson (B.Guerra)
29. A.Hunter (J.Charman, T.Stenglein)
30. J.Brown
31. S.Black (S.Wakelin, P.Chapman)
32. C.Brown
33. C.Bolton (J.Adcock)
34. L.Davis
35. M.Chaffey
36. S.Mitchell (J.Hay)
37. M.Hahn (L.Montagna, B.Staker, M.LeCras)
38. B.Fevola (C.Ling, A.Hansen)
39. T.Cloke
40. G.Ablett (M.O'Loughlin, M.Lappin, J.Watson)
41. A.Krakouer (H.Playfair)
42. B.Ebert
43. A.Goodes (L.Gilbee, M.Williams)
44. H.Scotland (J.Hunt, M.Morton)
45. M.Scarlett (K.Simpson, J.Sherman)
46. B.Harvey (D.King, J.Waite)
47. D.Milburn (C.Enright, A.Welsh)
48. A.Jones (C.Bateman, H.Shaw)
49. J.Schofield (I.Perrie)
50. D.Cassisi
51. T.Boyle
52. A.Buchanan
53. M.Braun (A.Selwood)
54. ???
55. D.Bradshaw (S.Fisher)
56. R.O'Keefe (C.Mooney, P.Medhurst, D.Cross, R.Shirley, C.Knights, R.Tallis)
57. A.Embley
58. D.Swan (B.Hudson)
59. ???
60. B.Scott
61. M.Stokes (M.Rischitelli)
62. A.Thompson (M.Egan, J.Blumfield)
63. M.Carr
64. C.Bruce (N.Malceski)
26. T.Notting (J.Rivers, B.Holland)
27. K.Johnson (S.Baker, T.Cook)
28. J.Johnson (B.Guerra)
29. A.Hunter (J.Charman, T.Stenglein)
30. J.Brown
31. S.Black (S.Wakelin, P.Chapman)
32. C.Brown
33. C.Bolton (J.Adcock)
34. L.Davis
35. M.Chaffey
36. S.Mitchell (J.Hay)
37. M.Hahn (L.Montagna, B.Staker, M.LeCras)
38. B.Fevola (C.Ling, A.Hansen)
39. T.Cloke
40. G.Ablett (M.O'Loughlin, M.Lappin, J.Watson)
41. A.Krakouer (H.Playfair)
42. B.Ebert
43. A.Goodes (L.Gilbee, M.Williams)
44. H.Scotland (J.Hunt, M.Morton)
45. M.Scarlett (K.Simpson, J.Sherman)
46. B.Harvey (D.King, J.Waite)
47. D.Milburn (C.Enright, A.Welsh)
48. A.Jones (C.Bateman, H.Shaw)
49. J.Schofield (I.Perrie)
50. D.Cassisi
51. T.Boyle
52. A.Buchanan
53. M.Braun (A.Selwood)
54. ???
55. D.Bradshaw (S.Fisher)
56. R.O'Keefe (C.Mooney, P.Medhurst, D.Cross, R.Shirley, C.Knights, R.Tallis)
57. A.Embley
58. D.Swan (B.Hudson)
59. ???
60. B.Scott
61. M.Stokes (M.Rischitelli)
62. A.Thompson (M.Egan, J.Blumfield)
63. M.Carr
64. C.Bruce (N.Malceski)
Great list and enjoyed the read 
However I to feel that Hodge should clearly be in the no.1 spot of the no.1's.
However I to feel that Hodge should clearly be in the no.1 spot of the no.1's.
Leon Cameron wasn't half the player Chris Johnson was.
You are dreaming. Now a premiership doesn't count as an accolade.
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You'd rate Riewoldt ahead of Hodge because a gun KPP is far more valuable to a side.
Riewoldt was unbelievable against Fremantle when he won the game off his own boot with 22 kicks, 18 marks and 3 goals.
Hodge doesn't have 4 best and fairests and 3 All Australian jumpers.
Riewoldt was unbelievable against Fremantle when he won the game off his own boot with 22 kicks, 18 marks and 3 goals.
Hodge doesn't have 4 best and fairests and 3 All Australian jumpers.
