-
AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Best football school in Australia
- Thread starter lakersman
- Start date
- Tagged users None
~TheScout~
Team Captain
AND they also smashed the self professed POWERHOUSE of SA School Footy, Sacred Heart, in this years State KO Final.
And to back that up, in 2009, the better players of 2008 will still be in attendance.
I would expect PAC to dominate SA School footy in 2009.
Just an opinion.
Unless there is a national schools carnvial where individual schools compete (best 2 from each state) you are all wasting time...as its all subjective crap.
Other points:
1. St Pat's Ballarat won 49 Premierships in a row, 2 old boys won brownlows, 100+ VFL/AFL players in 116 years, several past players VFL/AFL coaches and several Herald Sun Shield wins as official "Best Victorian School". A couple recently. Many past players at North Ballarat Roosters - VFL Premiers in 2008.
2. Assumption Kilmore have a similar very strong history to SPC.
3. Disappointingly several/most APS schools refuse to compete in the Herald Sun Shield due to some TAC clashes/commitments of some players and the APS Games. But thats the same challenge for all other Vic schools. If they really wanted to play (extra 3-4 games) they could but some 1st Coaches are afraid to put their personal and school reputations on the line - if you don't put it on the line...you can't claim the bragging rights. APS Premiership does not automatically = best school. Therefore, in Victoria only the Herald Shield result matters when discussing the best school. Some of you may not like that but its objective.
4. All sport competitive APS/AGS schools have some scholarships whether publicly known or in most cases hidden (not just Haileybury - even the ones complaining have a few tucked away). Haileybury did overdo it and spoilt the APS footy competition - pitty they did not use the talent they had better in 2004-07 and win the state titles as well as APS. Comes down to coach/teacher interest and motivation I suppose. Mother Theresa could have coached them to APS titles with the talent available - I am sure any serious schoolboy footballer would want a chance to win. APS schools should look beyond their local comp if they really want to brag - play the extra games and prove your status on the field.
5. More one off "friendlies" between the top schools would sort out the best schools order pretty quickly but unless you thought you were a chance to dominant, you are going to shun the scrutiny or risk of injury when all you see worthwhile is the local premiership you play for.
Other points:
1. St Pat's Ballarat won 49 Premierships in a row, 2 old boys won brownlows, 100+ VFL/AFL players in 116 years, several past players VFL/AFL coaches and several Herald Sun Shield wins as official "Best Victorian School". A couple recently. Many past players at North Ballarat Roosters - VFL Premiers in 2008.
2. Assumption Kilmore have a similar very strong history to SPC.
3. Disappointingly several/most APS schools refuse to compete in the Herald Sun Shield due to some TAC clashes/commitments of some players and the APS Games. But thats the same challenge for all other Vic schools. If they really wanted to play (extra 3-4 games) they could but some 1st Coaches are afraid to put their personal and school reputations on the line - if you don't put it on the line...you can't claim the bragging rights. APS Premiership does not automatically = best school. Therefore, in Victoria only the Herald Shield result matters when discussing the best school. Some of you may not like that but its objective.
4. All sport competitive APS/AGS schools have some scholarships whether publicly known or in most cases hidden (not just Haileybury - even the ones complaining have a few tucked away). Haileybury did overdo it and spoilt the APS footy competition - pitty they did not use the talent they had better in 2004-07 and win the state titles as well as APS. Comes down to coach/teacher interest and motivation I suppose. Mother Theresa could have coached them to APS titles with the talent available - I am sure any serious schoolboy footballer would want a chance to win. APS schools should look beyond their local comp if they really want to brag - play the extra games and prove your status on the field.
5. More one off "friendlies" between the top schools would sort out the best schools order pretty quickly but unless you thought you were a chance to dominant, you are going to shun the scrutiny or risk of injury when all you see worthwhile is the local premiership you play for.
Yes if there were NO SCHOLARSHIPS you would quickly see which schools had the best quality football and development programs (not just 1st XVIII) and best Coaching staff. Just not a reality in the APS/AGS/BAS comps.
Bullet pass
Debutant
KPass, what you seem to miss is that APS schools play on Saturdays. The finals of the Herald shield clash in the last few weeks of the APS season. It is virtually impossible for them to schedule both competitions with the overlap.
Xavier actually registered for the Herald Shield in 2006. They defeated St Pat's Ballarat and Assumption in the pre-liminary rounds, but were unable to go any further because their APS final against Scotch was scheduled on the same date to play against St Joseph's.
It is also worth pointing out that several APS and AGS schools won the Herald Shield during the 80s and 90s. Assumption have won it a few times recently, Xavier once in the late 90s. So your comments aimed at these schools are quite ignorant.
Xavier actually registered for the Herald Shield in 2006. They defeated St Pat's Ballarat and Assumption in the pre-liminary rounds, but were unable to go any further because their APS final against Scotch was scheduled on the same date to play against St Joseph's.
It is also worth pointing out that several APS and AGS schools won the Herald Shield during the 80s and 90s. Assumption have won it a few times recently, Xavier once in the late 90s. So your comments aimed at these schools are quite ignorant.
st josephs geelong in the last 10 years...
don't forget de la salle malvern for the sheer quality of players from their
Barry Breen (played 300 games for st kilda)
Jack Dyer (no need for explanation)
John Kennedy Snr (icon of the game hawthorn legend)
john kennedy jnr
Kevin Sheedy
+ dozens of players who were consindered average in afl/vfl
current players include
Andrew Carazzo
Trent Croad
tom murphey
don't forget de la salle malvern for the sheer quality of players from their
Barry Breen (played 300 games for st kilda)
Jack Dyer (no need for explanation)
John Kennedy Snr (icon of the game hawthorn legend)
john kennedy jnr
Kevin Sheedy
+ dozens of players who were consindered average in afl/vfl
current players include
Andrew Carazzo
Trent Croad
tom murphey
just because they had a few good players doesnt make them the best school in the country... its all about depth.
Skins_24
Debutant
surley daylesford haha.
~TheScout~
Team Captain
How so?
They weren't even the best in SA last year.
PAC rolled them in the Knockout Final.
I agree, however, over the last 10 or so years, they have been best in SA.
KilmoreBlue
Debutant
Assumption College Kilmore 1893 -
77 titles
AGSV 1958 - present day - 36 premierships
1987 - 1990 Four Sun Shields in four years
1985 -1992 Eight AGSV Titles in a row
2001 -2005 Five AGSV Titles in succession
2008 - 2008 - AGSV/ Herald Sun Shield double
140+ players to VFL/AFL
77 titles
AGSV 1958 - present day - 36 premierships
1987 - 1990 Four Sun Shields in four years
1985 -1992 Eight AGSV Titles in a row
2001 -2005 Five AGSV Titles in succession
2008 - 2008 - AGSV/ Herald Sun Shield double
140+ players to VFL/AFL
SHC lead till half time and then u could see them get tired because they played 3 games in a week. But PAC desided to rest 15 players agaist scotch and lost. SHC 2nds beat scotch. Finally SHC beat PAC 2 out of three times during the year.
ClarkeM
Wonders 🏆🏆🏆🏆
- Mar 14, 2007
- 55,949
- 55,751
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
BCC this year
He would have stayed at my school, St. Leonards, if we actually gave a shit about sport...and gave out scholarships.
Jack Henty
Draftee
- May 7, 2007
- 11
- 0
- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
are we comparing these schools by the best list this year, past players or the best footy culture?
plus if its on past players cauflield grammar has one word for you: Judd
plus if its on past players cauflield grammar has one word for you: Judd
- Banned
- #246
even though i love juddy thats all caulfield grammar can say. have no more come backs
ackfooty#24
Draftee
One of the best teams in Victoria is Assumption College. Hence winning the Herald Sun Shield last year.
Jack Henty
Draftee
- May 7, 2007
- 11
- 0
- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
ahhh, aside from CHRIS JUDD captain of carlton & west coast,mutliple B&Fs,all australian,premeirship player and brownlow medal we've also had:
- brendan Goddard
- Stuart Maxfield
- andrew & duncan kellaway
- mark chaffy
- andrew walker
- andrew mcqualter
- robb eddy
- jack ziebell
JUST to name a couple.
last tuesday we played st pats and they're fuking amazing, skills flawless, great zones, good over head
their indigenous players set them up, im putting this out there..they'd beat set kevins
- brendan Goddard
- Stuart Maxfield
- andrew & duncan kellaway
- mark chaffy
- andrew walker
- andrew mcqualter
- robb eddy
- jack ziebell
JUST to name a couple.
last tuesday we played st pats and they're fuking amazing, skills flawless, great zones, good over head
their indigenous players set them up, im putting this out there..they'd beat set kevins
if you're referring to st pat's ballarat, that's interesting, cos they werent that special last year when we played them, gace them a flogging. we play them every year on an exchange, this year up at their school, so will be good to see how we go if they are looking excellent this year.
Lazza1981
Rookie
this maybe a strange question is it teachers that coach these teams or are they paid coaches that the school source from outside.
