Best player in the league of each number!

[Longy413]

You do realise Mcphee won a b&f in a team that finished 4th Last.

You do realise McPhee won the B&F in 2004 when we finished less than two goals from a Prelim?

Furthermore in that same team Hird, Lucas and Lloyd all missed plenty of game time.

Furthermore McPhee also missed plenty of game time due to injury in 2005, an injury he carried all season and did not play the last half a dozen games or so.

And Scott Lucas played every game.

Whilst Jason Johnson was definately not at his best.

He won the best and fairest.

Have you finished making yourself look stupid?

 

[Dixie Flatline]

<snip>
My Top for each number

1. Barry Hall - Warren Tredrea - Peter Everitt - Mark Johnson - Steven King
2. Robert Murphy - Aaron Hamill - Nick Davis - Chris Johnson - Josh Carr - Tom Harley
3. Chris Judd - Michael Voss - Chris Grant - Jimmy Bartel - Brett Deledio
4. Daniel Kerr - Paul Hasleby - Gavin Wanganeen - Daniel Cross
5. James Hird - Nathan Buckley - Rohan Smith - Sam Mitchell - Ryan O'Keefe - Scott Thompson
6. Brad Johnson - Luke Power - Shannon Grant - Craig Bolton - Mark Williams
7. Scott West - Nathan Brown - Lenny Hayes - Adam Simpson - Peter Burgoyne - Chad Fletcher
8. Nathan Bassett - James Clement - Mitch Hahn - Max Hudghton - Daniel Wells - Josh Hunt
9. Ben Cousins - Shane Crawford - Fraser Gehrig - Tyson Edwards - David Neitz - Lindsay Gillbee
10. Paul Williams - Michael Braun - Nathan Eagleton - Steven Baker - Josh Francou - Troy Cook
11. Joel Bowden - Glenn Archer - Joel Smith - Damian Peverill - Joel Corey
12. Nick Riewoldt - Jason Akermanis - Matthew Richardson - Nic Fosdike
13. Adem Yze - Daniel Giansiracusa - Brett Voss - Andrew Lovett - Adam Schneider
14. Luke Ball - Jason Johnson - Luke Darcy (would be No.1 if not injured)
15. Luke Hodge - Mal Michael - Peter Riccardi
16. Jonathan Brown - Travis Johnstone - Darren Jolly
17. Tadgh Kennelly - Kane Johnson - Adam Cooney - Adam McPhee - Scott Burns
18. Matthew Lloyd - Paul Licuria - Kane Cornes - Luke McPharlin
19. Michael O'Loughlin - David Hille - Ben Dixon
20. Dean Cox - Simon Black - Justin Longmuir - Chris Tarrant - Luke Ablett
21. Leo Barry - Shane Tuck - Cameron Mooney - Richie Vandenberg - Heath Black - Corey Jones
22. Brent Moloney - Chris Scott - Ian Perrie
23. Andrew McLeod - Justin Koschitzke - Shane Parker - Nathan Thompson - Anthony Rocca
24. Jude Bolton - Nick Stevens - Brett Burton - Russell Robertson - Mark Coughlan - Trent Croad
25. Ben Rutten - Scott Lucas - Brendan Fevola
26. Nick Dal Santo - Saverio Rocca - Sean Dempster
27. Will Minson - Jared Rivers - Clark Keating - Jason Blake
28. Jared Crouch - David Johnson - Ashley Sampi
29. Matthew Pavlich - Gary Ablett - Brent Harvey - Adam Kingsley - Ashley Hansen
30. Matthew Scarlett - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Jarrod Waite - Matthew Robbins - Campbell Brown
31. Brett Kirk - Dustin Fletcher - Aaron Sandilands - Matt Maguire
32. Mark Ricciuto - Peter Bell - Cameron Bruce - Amon Buchanan - Andrew Embley - Bret Thornton
33. Jeff Farmer - Jarrod Rooke - Ryan Houlihan - Josh (fixed) Thurgood - Jarred Moore
34. Jeff White - Ben Hart - Paul Medhurst
35. Robert Harvey - Chad Cornes - Paul Chapman - Troy Makepeace
36. Simon Goodwin - Aaron Davey - Brian Harris
37. Adam Goodes - ??? - ???
38. Dale Morris - Luke Vogels - Lance Franklin
39. Darren Milburn - Adam Hunter - Andrew Kellaway - Martin Mattner
40. David Wojcinski - Shane Birss - Jordan Lewis - Adam Bentick
41. Danyle Pearce - ??? - ??? (Hunt and Lovett would be 1-2 if they weren't changing)
42. Nathan Lovett-Murray - Robert Haddrill - Paul Bevan
43. Anthony Koutoufides - Roger Hayden - Dean Rioli
44. Nigel Lappin - David Wirrpunda - Steven Milne - Corey Enright
45. Cameron Ling - Matthew Whelan - Clinton Young

Can anyone fill in the gaps or suggest anyone better?


Thanks all - updates are in bold.

BTW - are there any other 37s or 41s????
And is there enough interest for me to launch polls to make each number opinion BF official????

Overall, a good job.

However, I'm not sure how you could have Dale Morris higher than Lance Franklin. Franklin made a great impact on the Hawks in 2005, even if he was up and down in his consistency. Morris was a good, but quiet player who did a job late in the season. I would have had Franklin-Morris-Vogels for #38, but as I understand it, Franklin won't be #38 in 2006 anyway.

Wojcinski is coming off a knee injury in 2005 so who knows how he'll go in 2006? Like Franklin, though, Lewis is switching numbers in 2006.

Nick Stevens, IMHO, is not the second best player to be wearing #24. I would have #24 as J. Bolton-R. Robertson-T. Croad-M. Coughlan-N. Stevens

 

[mark73]

There's your problem.

Mate,you're a knob.Which is not necessarily a bold statement given you follow the most overpublicised and overrated bunch of girls in the competition,but your Bowden/Archer comparison is testimony of why people should be banned for being ******ed dipsh1ts...At the age of 40,Archer would still be head and shoulders above Bowden,not to mention above anything in that pathetic congregation you claim to be a football team...

Knob...

 

[mark73]

You do realise McPhee won the B&F in 2004 when we finished less than two goals from a Prelim?



Furthermore McPhee also missed plenty of game time due to injury in 2005, an injury he carried all season and did not play the last half a dozen games or so.

And Scott Lucas played every game.



He won the best and fairest.

Have you finished making yourself look stupid?

So,in other words you are saying McPhee is a good player?

Sorry,again,knob...

 

[Longy413]

Mate,you're a knob.Which is not necessarily a bold statement given you follow the most overpublicised and overrated bunch of girls in the competition

Nice. Can't argue the points, so you turn to personal insults. Mature.

At the age of 40,Archer would still be head and shoulders above Bowden

Interesting then that Bowden won AA selection in the position Archer plays.
Archer will always be remembered as an all-time great. He will always be the better footballer. He'll always have had the greater career. But in 2005 Bowden played better footy and he will do again in 2006.

So,in other words you are saying McPhee is a good player?

Well done. You're clever.

 

[Cattas_21]

Joel Bowden > Joel Corey
Tuck

hahahahaha

nothing more needs to be said

#21 cam mooney

 

[DynamoUltra]

DynamoUltra - 24. Croad can go sixth

Croad 6th? He's the AA CHB for Pete's sake. Who on that list of 24's made the AA team?

 

[Frankston Rover]

6. Brad Johnson - Luke Power - Shannon Grant - Craig Bolton - Mark Williams

Craig Bolton better than Mark Williams? No.

17. Tadgh Kennelly - Kane Johnson - Adam Cooney - Adam McPhee - Scott Burns

Kennelly and Kane Johnson better than Adam Cooney and McPhee????? You are kidding.

24. Jude Bolton - Nick Stevens - Brett Burton - Russell Robertson - Mark Coughlan - Trent Croad

Nick Stevens? I'd take Burton, Robertson, Coughlan and Croad before Nick Stevens. He had a shocking 05. Coughlan is a gun and Croad was 2005 AA CHB.

31. Brett Kirk - Dustin Fletcher - Aaron Sandilands - Matt Maguire

Aaron Sandilands better than Matt Maguire?

38. Dale Morris - Luke Vogels - Lance Franklin

And Franklin craps all over Dale Morris and Vogels. Who the hell is Dale Morris?

 

[Longy413]

Who the hell is Dale Morris?

The quickest bloke on the Dogs list. The bloke who tagged the oppositions best player most of the season. The bloke who represented Australia in his first season.

And Franklin is no longer wearing 38, is he not?

 

[spell_check]

Other 37s' are Trent Hentschel, Marc Bullen and Adam Selwood.

 

[Longy413]

Marc Bullen

Bullen has been delisted mate. Draftee Austin Lucy will wear 37 for Essendon this season.

 

[Here It Is]

Craig Bolton better than Mark Williams? No.

Kennelly and Kane Johnson better than Adam Cooney and McPhee????? You are kidding.

Nick Stevens? I'd take Burton, Robertson, Coughlan and Croad before Nick Stevens. He had a shocking 05. Coughlan is a gun and Croad was 2005 AA CHB.

Aaron Sandilands better than Matt Maguire?

And Franklin craps all over Dale Morris and Vogels. Who the hell is Dale Morris?

I'll switch Maguire and Sandilands for you, but I stand by all the others.
Croad may have been AA CHB, but I still don't think he's as good as any of the others - who all play different positions.
Franklin has ability but IMO did no more than Vogels (who won at least one match off his own boot and possibly would have won two premierships in one year if he didn't get hurt in the seconds grand final) - and as Longy413 said, Morris played for Australia.
Kennelly and Bolton are crucial members of the premiership backline, while the two you want promoted have had one good season and need to back it up.

Spellcheck - thankyou - Sellwood will go 2nd and Hentschel 3rd.

Again to Longy413 - if we can confirm McPhee is definitely still in 33, he is automatic No.1 in that number. For now, I'll back you.

My Top for each number

1. Barry Hall - Warren Tredrea - Peter Everitt - Mark Johnson - Steven King
2. Robert Murphy - Aaron Hamill - Nick Davis - Chris Johnson - Josh Carr - Tom Harley
3. Chris Judd - Michael Voss - Chris Grant - Jimmy Bartel - Brett Deledio
4. Daniel Kerr - Paul Hasleby - Gavin Wanganeen - Daniel Cross
5. James Hird - Nathan Buckley - Rohan Smith - Sam Mitchell - Ryan O'Keefe - Scott Thompson
6. Brad Johnson - Luke Power - Shannon Grant - Craig Bolton - Mark Williams
7. Scott West - Nathan Brown - Lenny Hayes - Adam Simpson - Peter Burgoyne - Chad Fletcher
8. Nathan Bassett - James Clement - Mitch Hahn - Max Hudghton - Daniel Wells - Josh Hunt
9. Ben Cousins - Shane Crawford - Fraser Gehrig - Tyson Edwards - David Neitz - Lindsay Gillbee
10. Paul Williams - Michael Braun - Nathan Eagleton - Steven Baker - Josh Francou - Troy Cook
11. Joel Bowden - Glenn Archer - Joel Smith - Damian Peverill - Joel Corey
12. Nick Riewoldt - Jason Akermanis - Matthew Richardson - Nic Fosdike
13. Adem Yze - Daniel Giansiracusa - Brett Voss - Andrew Lovett - Adam Schneider
14. Luke Ball - Jason Johnson - Luke Darcy
15. Luke Hodge - Mal Michael - Peter Riccardi
16. Jonathan Brown - Travis Johnstone - Darren Jolly
17. Tadgh Kennelly - Kane Johnson - Adam Cooney - Scott Burns
18. Matthew Lloyd - Paul Licuria - Kane Cornes - Luke McPharlin
19. Michael O'Loughlin - David Hille - Ben Dixon
20. Dean Cox - Simon Black - Justin Longmuir - Chris Tarrant - Luke Ablett
21. Leo Barry - Shane Tuck - Cameron Mooney - Richie Vandenberg - Heath Black - Corey Jones
22. Brent Moloney - Chris Scott - Ian Perrie
23. Andrew McLeod - Justin Koschitzke - Shane Parker - Nathan Thompson - Anthony Rocca
24. Jude Bolton - Nick Stevens - Brett Burton - Russell Robertson - Mark Coughlan - Trent Croad
25. Ben Rutten - Scott Lucas - Brendan Fevola
26. Nick Dal Santo - Saverio Rocca - Sean Dempster
27. Will Minson - Jared Rivers - Clark Keating - Jason Blake
28. Jared Crouch - David Johnson - Ashley Sampi
29. Matthew Pavlich - Gary Ablett - Brent Harvey - Adam Kingsley - Ashley Hansen
30. Matthew Scarlett - Lewis Roberts-Thomson - Jarrod Waite - Matthew Robbins - Campbell Brown
31. Brett Kirk - Dustin Fletcher - Matt Maguire - Aaron Sandilands
32. Mark Ricciuto - Peter Bell - Cameron Bruce - Amon Buchanan - Andrew Embley - Bret Thornton
33. Adam McPhee - Jeff Farmer - Jarrod Rooke - Ryan Houlihan - Josh Thurgood - Jarred Moore
34. Jeff White - Ben Hart - Paul Medhurst
35. Robert Harvey - Chad Cornes - Paul Chapman - Troy Makepeace
36. Simon Goodwin - Aaron Davey - Brian Harris
37. Adam Goodes - Adam Selwood - Trent Hentschel
38. Dale Morris - Luke Vogels - Lance Franklin
39. Darren Milburn - Adam Hunter - Andrew Kellaway - Martin Mattner
40. David Wojcinski - Shane Birss - Jordan Lewis - Adam Bentick
41. Danyle Pearce - ??? - ???
42. Nathan Lovett-Murray - Robert Haddrill - Paul Bevan
43. Anthony Koutoufides - Roger Hayden - Dean Rioli
44. Nigel Lappin - David Wirrpunda - Steven Milne - Corey Enright
45. Cameron Ling - Matthew Whelan - Clinton Young

I'll look to run some polls once all clubs have confirmed their numbers for 2006.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

I'll look to run some polls once all clubs have confirmed their numbers for 2006.

Lol. Good idea. Then we can finally have a proper general idea.
However sometimes on polls people will only vote for the player from there team.
Im in the most popular player one I am doing at the moment it happens a bit. Although players like Brad Johnson and Judd poll from all supporter bases.

 

[roostersgal4eva]

11. Joel Bowden - Glenn Archer - Joel Smith - Damian Peverill - Joel Corey

Justin Shermans gonna have 11 this year for us....would be up there if not now but in the future

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Justin Shermans gonna have 11 this year for us....would be up there if not now but in the future

I rate the kid highly but if Corey is at 5 then it will be tough to squeeze him in.
I think Corey is one of the most underrated in the league. Constantly racks up 25+ touches, kicks a few goals and is a good runner. Had him in my dream team and he killed it. I would almost have him at 1 in that group. Infact I would.
Corey, Archer, Bowden, Smith, Sherman, Pevrill.
That would be mine

 

[roostersgal4eva]

I rate the kid highly but if Corey is at 5 then it will be tough to squeeze him in.
I think Corey is one of the most underrated in the league. Constantly racks up 25+ touches, kicks a few goals and is a good runner. Had him in my dream team and he killed it. I would almost have him at 1 in that group. Infact I would.
Corey, Archer, Bowden, Smith, Sherman, Pevrill.
That would be mine

id wouldnt say now but definatly in the future.

btw - fans only say their fave cause other supporters might not know who wears no 41 for Geelong etc.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

id wouldnt say now but definatly in the future.

btw - fans only say their fave cause other supporters might not know who wears no 41 for Geelong etc.

True. I couldnt even tell you. It was Hunt but he has made the move to number 8.

 

[Snuka]

Lol. Good idea. Then we can finally have a proper general idea.
However sometimes on polls people will only vote for the player from there team.
Im in the most popular player one I am doing at the moment it happens a bit. Although players like Brad Johnson and Judd poll from all supporter bases.

Good call...interesting poll but maybe votes from the supporters voting for their own team's players should be discounted.

 

[liz]

Craig Bolton better than Mark Williams? No.

Kennelly and Kane Johnson better than Adam Cooney and McPhee????? You are kidding.

Nick Stevens? I'd take Burton, Robertson, Coughlan and Croad before Nick Stevens. He had a shocking 05. Coughlan is a gun and Croad was 2005 AA CHB.

LOL at Mark Williams. He's had one super season that he now needs to back up. Craig Bolton has finished in the top 6 of the Swans B&F for the past three years (including 3rd in 2005) in years in which they played off in a PF, a SF and won a premiership. He's also been selected to play for Australia.

Come back and argue that one in another couple of years when Williams has backed up his 2005.

There seems to be some question as to whether McPhee is a 17 or not. If he is, he's clearly top of that list of 4 in my book. I'd rate Kane Johnson next, then Kennelly, then Cooney. Cooney seems to have the talent to overtake all the others listed but again, come back in a year or two and argue that one. Scott Burns is also quality, and while there may be a question mark over whether he can get close to his best in 2006, on past career he'd comfortably fit in at number 1 or 2 on this list.

The list of 24s looks pretty even but over their careers to date (and with reasonable expectation of what they should be capable of producing in 2006), Nick Stevens is slightly ahead of the rest IMO. The rest have all had at least one excellent season but none has delivered consistently over their careers thus far, whether due to injury or other reasons.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Good call...interesting poll but maybe votes from the supporters voting for their own team's players should be discounted.

In mine on the most popular player I have made it so if it is a tie the player who has the most votes from a nuetral supporter will go through to the next round. Jonothan Brown went through because of that.

Also Mcphee is 100% number 17.
http://bombersfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=players
It says so on the Bombers website.

 

[scotty13]

Number 41 rises a little problem since Pearce is now wearing Tredrea's number 16 since he has become captain and taken over number 1. So another 41 will need to be found.

 

[DynamoUltra]

Croad may have been AA CHB, but I still don't think he's as good as any of the others - who all play different positions.

Yes, but isn't this about he best player of each number? Craod being AA clearly means he is the best 24 of 2005. None of the other players made AA, therefore Croad should be number 1.

 

[Mero]

In mine on the most popular player I have made it so if it is a tie the player who has the most votes from a nuetral supporter will go through to the next round. Jonothan Brown went through because of that.

Also Mcphee is 100% number 17.
http://bombersfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=players
It says so on the Bombers website.

That has been like that since he wore 17 for Fremantle four years ago.

He is 33, 17 is Scott Camporeale, and that's not Essendon's site.
That's Telstra's Essendon site.
Just goes to show you how pathetic that site really is.

 

[Goal Square]

43 - Kouta.

Roger Hayden

 

[Longy413]

Also Mcphee is 100% number 17.
http://bombersfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=players
It says so on the Bombers website.

That's not the Essendon website. It's the AFL/Telstra version of it, that most Essendon people do not visit nor take any notice of. Having McPhee as number 17 is just one example why. It's a crap site. Camporeale will wear 17, and if you go to his page it has him as wearing 16 (his former number and the number of Kepler Bradley).

Here is the official list of numbers, from the official club site -
http://essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=4535

McPhee 33, Camporeale 17.

And one comment on the number 11's. Joel Corey is a better footballer than Damien Peverill.