Big Fish ?...Hawthorn trade news and targets thread(not for trade hypotheticals)

[Hong Kong Hawk]

So a player was caught cheating and is a big time gambler. Thank goodness we have never had one of those players in our ranks before lol.

This goes on in life not just footy clubs.

I have learnt not to judge people to harshly.

They guy is 23 and has two kids. I hope he he finds himself, settles down and has a positive influence in his kids lives moving forward and that would be a big win from this.

i think he still worth a shot and would love him at the Hawks.

I read the article and couldn't believe it really. My favourite bit was the club owing a "duty of care" to players for what amounts to self inflicted fxukwittery.

Please people, have some pride and keep it private.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Many years ago when I used to visit my 17 year old girlfriend at her house, her parents never consented for me to have sex with her

Guess he was lucky they were Dogs fans, or shit parents!

 

[SSSSSS]

I'm not a huge Gaff fan myself. For an outside player he doesn't do a whole lot of damage with the ball. Not overly quick just knows how to run all day. Very vanilla but is the type of player who will get to 250 games, without a whole lot of fanfare.

Will release Izzie if we got him though.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

I read the article and couldn't believe it really. My favourite bit was the club owing a "duty of care" to players for what amounts to self inflicted fxukwittery.

Please people, have some pride and keep it private.

Um surprised the the club let Jake do anything that would get Abby Gilmore's brother Matty pissed off, he is an absolute monster 200cm 130kg beast if he was even the slightest bit protective of his sister Jake would be damaged goods quick sticks.
Said in jest but you get the picture.

 

[kirbatron]

I'm not a huge Gaff fan myself. For an outside player he doesn't do a whole lot of damage with the ball. Not overly quick just knows how to run all day. Very vanilla but is the type of player who will get to 250 games, without a whole lot of fanfare.

Will release Izzie if we got him though.

clarko will elevate him

 

[flinchfree]

Hopefully Hawthorn aren't talking to stringer:
Former AFL WAG Abby Gilmore reveals truth behind her split from Western Bulldogs star Jake Stringer
Alice Coster, Page 13, Herald Sun
19 minutes ago
Subscriber only
ABBY Gilmore has had enough.

She’s not going to stay silent any longer to protect the football reputation of her estranged fiance Jake Stringer, or the boys’ club that is still part of the AFL.

It’s taken a year of heartbreak and pain, but this week she has found her voice.

“Women can speak. We are allowed to have a voice,” Gilmore told the Herald Sun’s Page 13 at her Altona North home this week, “I couldn’t suffer in silence anymore.”

When the footy WAG received a message from a 17-year-old schoolgirl saying she was having sex with Gilmore’s Western Bulldogs’ fiance, her seemingly picture perfect life shattered.

Gilmore knows she will cop flak for speaking out.


The couple at the 2015 Brownlow Medal. Pic: Michael Klein.
Blowing the whistle on the WAG lifestyle and toxic culture of sex, lies and gambling at football clubs is regarded as out of bounds.

“Everyone seems to know what was going on, but no one was saying or doing anything about it,” Gilmore says.

With a six-week-old baby, the couple’s second child, Gilmore, 24, felt ashamed and humiliated as a seemingly endless parade of girls left messages with in-your-face taunts about their sex sessions, with Stringer, some sending nude photographs of the premiership player.

“When it all blew up I was turned away from the club.

“I couldn’t believe it, the senior people just didn’t want to hear me out.

“But the Bulldogs players showed they cared. I’m proud of them for that. They were disgusted by his behaviour, doing that to me when I was pregnant. They let him know it.”

After months of depression and emotional upheaval, Abby Gilmore has decided that breaking her silence on a dirty little secret is the only way she can regain her self respect.

It is the first real insight into what was actually on inside the Western Bulldogs and Stringer’s much rumoured about off field performance this year.

WHY I’M GETTING NEW BOOBS: WAG’S BODY INSECURITIES

Stringer’s gambling addiction had reached fever pitch, Gilmore said. He had blown six figure sums of the young family’s savings.

Gilmore felt lost.

With two daughters, Milla 3 and baby Arlo to look after, she pretended she still had the picket fence and luxury WAG lifestyle, keeping up the pretence in front of her friends and family and her 100k-plus social media following.

She put on a forced smile when Stringer and the Western Bulldogs won the Grand Final last year, even though she knew his ego and the hero worship he would revel in would become unbearable.

But a year on and Gilmore says she “is done pretending.” She is no longer ashamed.

The young mother is selling the furniture she bought with Jake so she can start afresh.

Gilmore is prepared to get heat. She says speaking out to help other women in similar circumstances is the only way to regain her self respect.

She is sick of all the lies and innuendo.

BULLDOG SLAMS RUMOURS ABOUT EX, JJ

Gambling started as a teen
Gilmore and Jake met in Bendigo when she was just 13 and the two were barely in high school. Jake became like a son to her mother and father.

“We created this life together. But what was happening at the football club was just out of my control.”

Abby had long been living with Stringer’s gambling addiction. She said the gambling started when Jake was a 16 year-old with stars in his eyes about a career in footy.

“The environment at a football club is concerning. Everything around footy is dictated on betting. How do you stop something when all you are surrounded by is gambling?”

Gilmore controlled all the finances with his AFL manager Paul Connors. But when Jake wanted cash his manager would dole it out.

“The clubs organise counselling and do all that, but the thing with Jake is that he needed more.

“Whatever he got it wasn’t enough,” Gilmore says.

“They had a duty of care to look after Jake and I think if they had listened to me they would have been able to help him a lot more.



“He wasn’t helped in the right way, but in saying that you need to want help. You can’t when you are lying about it and pushing it under the carpet like Jake was.”

Gilmore said living with Jake’s gambling addiction was a rollercoaster ride of epic highs and lows.

“I am sensitive to it, because it is a real problem, it’s an addiction.

“In hindsight I realised I played a role in his gambling. I should have spoken out more to get him help rather than passively enabling his actions.”

She wishes there could be more openness inside the locker rooms. While Gilmore says there is some light, a lot of footballers like Jake are still floundering in the dark.

“It’s still such a man’s world. I wish he could have walked in and said ‘guys, I have a massive gambling addiction, can you help me’. But he would never do that, no way, he would say it was too embarrassing.”

Gilmore lived with the gambling. She managed without the squandered savings.The message that saw a perfect life crumble
But her life truly fell apart the day after a sit down interview with Herald Sun’s chief football writer Mark Robinson. Jake had gushed about how in love he was with Abby, waxing lyrical about his kids and the importance of family to him.

Gilmore woke up the next day feeling happy and normal for the first time since giving birth six weeks earlier.


She went to a boxing lesson and was hanging on the couch with Stringer’s teammate Jason “JJ” Johannisen, who was so close to the couple that he was present in the birthing suite when Abby was in labour.

“Jake had gone out to get lunch and I was just chilling with JJ when I got this message and just went pale. I showed Jason,” Gilmore said.

“We both had no idea.”

The text from the schoolgirl said she was having sex with Stringer, who is dubbed The Package. Gilmore later called her only to discover he had been visiting her family home, sometimes three times a week, for over four months to have sex.

“Her parents were diehard Bulldogs supporters, they gave their blessing to this homewrecker,” Gilmore said.

“I immediately thought I must be doing something wrong. I think that is what so many women first feel, I’m not good enough.”

“When I confronted him, Jake said ‘I’m so sorry I love you’, I said ‘fine I have a six-week-old what can I do?’ I was embarrassed.

“We all constantly scroll through other people’s perfect lives on social media. I thought I had that perfect life and so was ashamed when it all came crumbling down.”

But the schoolgirl’s tawdry confession was just the beginning.

Gilmore says a long line of predatory and sometimes gleeful girls have since contacted her and sent her nude photographs of Stringer in his naked glory.

“It was the full package all right,” Gilmore says, still managing to find some of her trademark larrikin humour in the greatest of adversities.

“Everyone was getting to look at The Package. It just kept going on and on.”

‘I woke up one day with a new path’
Abby said she got so depressed she couldn’t leave the house.

Even looking at baby Arlo made her think of all the other women Stringer had been sleeping with.

“I had social anxiety,” she said.

“I had just done an article on how beautiful my family was and the very next day I got this message and my life crumpled to pieces.

“The worst part for me was all these girls knew I existed, they knew I was pregnant with a child and it’s just wrong.”

She wishes more could be done to educate footballers on sex and coping with the hero worship and predatory females desperate for five minutes in the spotlight on the arm of a player.

“Because I was a WAG we get put under this umbrella that you deserve it, because you signed up for it,” she says.

“But I didn’t. I met Jake when I was 13. I didn’t know what being a WAG would entail, or maybe I would have thought twice about it.”

She wishes Jake the best in his endeavours at a new club, with Geelong and Essendon sniffing around after he was giving his marching orders by the Bulldogs last month.

She said alleged cover ups of infighting at the Bulldogs did not surprise her.

Or that the club and coach Luke Beveridge had finally had enough.

“The cheating and stuff with me, they weren’t happy about that and it changed the dynamics at the club,” she said.

“Nothing is enough for Jake. He had the football club and now he is leaving that. He had his family and left that. I’m sad for him. He obviously isn’t doing it just for fun. He has an addictive personality.”

Gilmore says she is not speaking out to flog an endorsement or push an ambassador role. She is just fed up and she knows she is not alone.

“I’ve had so many WAGs contact me saying it has happened to them too and they are too scared to speak out.

“I realised I was lowering my self-worth by being in this relationship. I was showing my girls that you put up with whatever to have a roof over your head and nice things. But I want my girls to know I would rather struggle and be happy than be in a toxic relationship.

“No one talks about it, but so many women go through it. I just want to have a voice for that.”

Gilmore says she finds strength and healing in sharing her story so other women can feel empowered and shrugging off the stigma of what has happened to her.

“When I finally said ‘I’m done, I’m not doing this anymore’ and packed the kids up I actually found it empowering. I suppose that’s where I found my path.”

Gilmore is now in a new relationship, with a “a good bloke who doesn’t play football.”

She has started training as a counsellor and set up female-only workshops Love Yo’Self to help women feel confident and feel safe and protected to open up about their life hurdles.

“I want to send y message, not my mess,” she says

“I woke up one day with a new path. It’s not something I chose. It’s been handed to me and that was a really hard pill to swallow.”

WOW. BRAVE BRAVE GIRL.

I'm so bloody impressed with her candor, her spot on insight, her courage to talk about it, and strength to find a new life.

Stringer is a no no. Clubs should steer clear for a couple years and see if he can set a new course and stick to it, for his benefit and future - not go chase some wins and losses in the column.

 

[flinchfree]

Got about a quarter of the way through that.

The term WAG is gross. How can you be a WAG? You're either a wife or girlfriend, not both, not a WAG.

So much gossip on one page. I want to wash it off.

That's a ridiculous comment.
It's not gossip.
It's her life.

 

[flinchfree]

There are two sides to everything, when it is a relationship.

We’ve only seen her side.

Nope.
His club think it not small change, and are willing to lose his class as a talent - no small thing to a footy club - for cents on the dollar because he's damaged as *%#$

You'd prefer the dirty player himself gets your equal belief because what, it might help our club bring in a difference maker on the field?

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

WOW. BRAVE BRAVE GIRL.

I'm so bloody impressed with her candor, her spot on insight, her courage to talk about it, and strength to find a new life.

Stringer is a no no. Clubs should steer clear for a couple years and see if he can set a new course and stick to it, for his benefit and future - not go chase some wins and losses in the column.

That's a ridiculous comment.
It's not gossip.
It's her life.

Nope.
His club think it not small change, and are willing to lose his class as a talent - no small thing to a footy club - for cents on the dollar because he's damaged as *%#$

You'd prefer the dirty player himself gets your equal belief because what, it might help our club bring in a difference maker on the field?

Let's state from the start that I don't approve of Jakes behavior one bit.
There is just a little bit more to the story in regards to people letting Jake down, persons that Jake has looked up to for guidance his whole life.
On the flip side Abbey has been a little stretchy with her version of the story, in particular her snide put down of a starry eyed 13-16 yearold Stringer the same guy she was happy to coexist with and ride on into stardom herself. No winners here, kids involved here Abbey is far less the victim than her kids.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

That's a ridiculous comment.
It's not gossip.
It's her life.

Yep - it's her life. But it becomes gossip when thousands of people who don't know her personally are talking about it.

She made the decision/felt she had to go public because there was already a huge weight of gossip. I feel really bad for her - she's had a really shit run through it all - but I hate that amount of a private relationship being out in the open.

 

[Briar Gold]

There are two sides to everything, when it is a relationship.

We’ve only seen her side.

But what could justify cheating on your pregnant partner, with a teenager.

Yeah didn't think so.

Very glad we've declared our lack of interest. Ego and selfishness come through on the field.

 

[sven_inc]

Twomestone mentioning we are interested in Jarman Impey. Like. Can't have enough Jarmans at the club.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

Twomestone mentioning we are interested in Jarman Impey. Like. Can't have enough Jarmans at the club.

Like

 

[OnceKicked50]

Twomestone mentioning we are interested in Jarman Impey. Like. Can't have enough Jarmans at the club.

I'm a big fan of Impey, despite a poor year. I always wondered if he had the ability to move into the midfield, he is tough, quick and skilful. I'm not sure on his tank however. Coming off a poor year I wonder what he is worth?

 

[Davo23]

But what could justify cheating on your pregnant partner, with a teenager.

Yeah didn't think so.

Very glad we've declared our lack of interest. Ego and selfishness come through on the field.

How do you know?
You’ve read a self-serving statement from one party, publicly released for effect. How do you know whether it is exaggerated or untrue, what is the other side?

No way you can judge a situation that way.

I’m not supporting him, but it’s totally unfair to judge him based ONLY on what she says.

.

 

[Siri]

The Impey rumour is on the AFL website now.

 

[Hawk Dork]

The Impey rumour is on the AFL website now.

AFL websites source is BF
Its a hyperloop of info

 

[Alite]

Hopefully Hawthorn aren't talking to stringer:
Former AFL WAG Abby Gilmore reveals truth behind her split from Western Bulldogs star Jake Stringer
Alice Coster, Page 13, Herald Sun
19 minutes ago
Subscriber only
ABBY Gilmore has had enough.

She’s not going to stay silent any longer to protect the football reputation of her estranged fiance Jake Stringer, or the boys’ club that is still part of the AFL.

It’s taken a year of heartbreak and pain, but this week she has found her voice.

“Women can speak. We are allowed to have a voice,” Gilmore told the Herald Sun’s Page 13 at her Altona North home this week, “I couldn’t suffer in silence anymore.”

When the footy WAG received a message from a 17-year-old schoolgirl saying she was having sex with Gilmore’s Western Bulldogs’ fiance, her seemingly picture perfect life shattered.

Gilmore knows she will cop flak for speaking out.


The couple at the 2015 Brownlow Medal. Pic: Michael Klein.
Blowing the whistle on the WAG lifestyle and toxic culture of sex, lies and gambling at football clubs is regarded as out of bounds.

“Everyone seems to know what was going on, but no one was saying or doing anything about it,” Gilmore says.

With a six-week-old baby, the couple’s second child, Gilmore, 24, felt ashamed and humiliated as a seemingly endless parade of girls left messages with in-your-face taunts about their sex sessions, with Stringer, some sending nude photographs of the premiership player.

“When it all blew up I was turned away from the club.

“I couldn’t believe it, the senior people just didn’t want to hear me out.

“But the Bulldogs players showed they cared. I’m proud of them for that. They were disgusted by his behaviour, doing that to me when I was pregnant. They let him know it.”

After months of depression and emotional upheaval, Abby Gilmore has decided that breaking her silence on a dirty little secret is the only way she can regain her self respect.

It is the first real insight into what was actually on inside the Western Bulldogs and Stringer’s much rumoured about off field performance this year.

WHY I’M GETTING NEW BOOBS: WAG’S BODY INSECURITIES

Stringer’s gambling addiction had reached fever pitch, Gilmore said. He had blown six figure sums of the young family’s savings.

Gilmore felt lost.

With two daughters, Milla 3 and baby Arlo to look after, she pretended she still had the picket fence and luxury WAG lifestyle, keeping up the pretence in front of her friends and family and her 100k-plus social media following.

She put on a forced smile when Stringer and the Western Bulldogs won the Grand Final last year, even though she knew his ego and the hero worship he would revel in would become unbearable.

But a year on and Gilmore says she “is done pretending.” She is no longer ashamed.

The young mother is selling the furniture she bought with Jake so she can start afresh.

Gilmore is prepared to get heat. She says speaking out to help other women in similar circumstances is the only way to regain her self respect.

She is sick of all the lies and innuendo.

BULLDOG SLAMS RUMOURS ABOUT EX, JJ

Gambling started as a teen
Gilmore and Jake met in Bendigo when she was just 13 and the two were barely in high school. Jake became like a son to her mother and father.

“We created this life together. But what was happening at the football club was just out of my control.”

Abby had long been living with Stringer’s gambling addiction. She said the gambling started when Jake was a 16 year-old with stars in his eyes about a career in footy.

“The environment at a football club is concerning. Everything around footy is dictated on betting. How do you stop something when all you are surrounded by is gambling?”

Gilmore controlled all the finances with his AFL manager Paul Connors. But when Jake wanted cash his manager would dole it out.

“The clubs organise counselling and do all that, but the thing with Jake is that he needed more.

“Whatever he got it wasn’t enough,” Gilmore says.

“They had a duty of care to look after Jake and I think if they had listened to me they would have been able to help him a lot more.



“He wasn’t helped in the right way, but in saying that you need to want help. You can’t when you are lying about it and pushing it under the carpet like Jake was.”

Gilmore said living with Jake’s gambling addiction was a rollercoaster ride of epic highs and lows.

“I am sensitive to it, because it is a real problem, it’s an addiction.

“In hindsight I realised I played a role in his gambling. I should have spoken out more to get him help rather than passively enabling his actions.”

She wishes there could be more openness inside the locker rooms. While Gilmore says there is some light, a lot of footballers like Jake are still floundering in the dark.

“It’s still such a man’s world. I wish he could have walked in and said ‘guys, I have a massive gambling addiction, can you help me’. But he would never do that, no way, he would say it was too embarrassing.”

Gilmore lived with the gambling. She managed without the squandered savings.The message that saw a perfect life crumble
But her life truly fell apart the day after a sit down interview with Herald Sun’s chief football writer Mark Robinson. Jake had gushed about how in love he was with Abby, waxing lyrical about his kids and the importance of family to him.

Gilmore woke up the next day feeling happy and normal for the first time since giving birth six weeks earlier.


She went to a boxing lesson and was hanging on the couch with Stringer’s teammate Jason “JJ” Johannisen, who was so close to the couple that he was present in the birthing suite when Abby was in labour.

“Jake had gone out to get lunch and I was just chilling with JJ when I got this message and just went pale. I showed Jason,” Gilmore said.

“We both had no idea.”

The text from the schoolgirl said she was having sex with Stringer, who is dubbed The Package. Gilmore later called her only to discover he had been visiting her family home, sometimes three times a week, for over four months to have sex.

“Her parents were diehard Bulldogs supporters, they gave their blessing to this homewrecker,” Gilmore said.

“I immediately thought I must be doing something wrong. I think that is what so many women first feel, I’m not good enough.”

“When I confronted him, Jake said ‘I’m so sorry I love you’, I said ‘fine I have a six-week-old what can I do?’ I was embarrassed.

“We all constantly scroll through other people’s perfect lives on social media. I thought I had that perfect life and so was ashamed when it all came crumbling down.”

But the schoolgirl’s tawdry confession was just the beginning.

Gilmore says a long line of predatory and sometimes gleeful girls have since contacted her and sent her nude photographs of Stringer in his naked glory.

“It was the full package all right,” Gilmore says, still managing to find some of her trademark larrikin humour in the greatest of adversities.

“Everyone was getting to look at The Package. It just kept going on and on.”

‘I woke up one day with a new path’
Abby said she got so depressed she couldn’t leave the house.

Even looking at baby Arlo made her think of all the other women Stringer had been sleeping with.

“I had social anxiety,” she said.

“I had just done an article on how beautiful my family was and the very next day I got this message and my life crumpled to pieces.

“The worst part for me was all these girls knew I existed, they knew I was pregnant with a child and it’s just wrong.”

She wishes more could be done to educate footballers on sex and coping with the hero worship and predatory females desperate for five minutes in the spotlight on the arm of a player.

“Because I was a WAG we get put under this umbrella that you deserve it, because you signed up for it,” she says.

“But I didn’t. I met Jake when I was 13. I didn’t know what being a WAG would entail, or maybe I would have thought twice about it.”

She wishes Jake the best in his endeavours at a new club, with Geelong and Essendon sniffing around after he was giving his marching orders by the Bulldogs last month.

She said alleged cover ups of infighting at the Bulldogs did not surprise her.

Or that the club and coach Luke Beveridge had finally had enough.

“The cheating and stuff with me, they weren’t happy about that and it changed the dynamics at the club,” she said.

“Nothing is enough for Jake. He had the football club and now he is leaving that. He had his family and left that. I’m sad for him. He obviously isn’t doing it just for fun. He has an addictive personality.”

Gilmore says she is not speaking out to flog an endorsement or push an ambassador role. She is just fed up and she knows she is not alone.

“I’ve had so many WAGs contact me saying it has happened to them too and they are too scared to speak out.

“I realised I was lowering my self-worth by being in this relationship. I was showing my girls that you put up with whatever to have a roof over your head and nice things. But I want my girls to know I would rather struggle and be happy than be in a toxic relationship.

“No one talks about it, but so many women go through it. I just want to have a voice for that.”

Gilmore says she finds strength and healing in sharing her story so other women can feel empowered and shrugging off the stigma of what has happened to her.

“When I finally said ‘I’m done, I’m not doing this anymore’ and packed the kids up I actually found it empowering. I suppose that’s where I found my path.”

Gilmore is now in a new relationship, with a “a good bloke who doesn’t play football.”

She has started training as a counsellor and set up female-only workshops Love Yo’Self to help women feel confident and feel safe and protected to open up about their life hurdles.

“I want to send y message, not my mess,” she says

“I woke up one day with a new path. It’s not something I chose. It’s been handed to me and that was a really hard pill to swallow.”

It is pretty clear that Jake Stringer will do whatever the F*** Jake Stinger wants to do irrespective of the people he burns around him...

.... oh, and had his personal life seems a mess as well.

I cannot see myself ever barracking for the flog.

 

[lickmerocks]

That's a ridiculous comment.
It's not gossip.
It's her life.

It's her life and it's a free world but if Jake didn't play AFL this would not make the papers.

She has come out and told her story and in the process has spread Jakes misdemeanours all over Australia.

She said she has met someone else and has moved on and perhaps that might have been enough???

 

[List Manager]

The Impey rumour is on the AFL website now.

Pass

 

[Billyc]

The family stuff just isn't news. No doubt he was a shit partner to her - but hardly on his own there, especially as a footballer. And he was 21 years old at the time. It is irrelevant to his football.

 

[threesixpio]

AFL websites source is BF
Its a hyperloop of info

Which came first?

 

[threesixpio]

The Impey rumour is on the AFL website now.

Switch him forward in defensive forward role?

Get him down back and chuck Ernie in the midfield?

Get Saad and Lever and chuck Sicily on a wing?

[Calm the f*** down ORourke Awakens!!!!!!!!!]

 

[Xtreme]

Knew Stringer was a bit of a knob when I kept hearing "The Package" there was a small glimmer of hope that it was just BT being a moron....evidently the nickname went to Stringers head!

 

[threesixpio]

Knew Stringer was a bit of a knob when I kept hearing "The Package" there was a small glimmer of hope that it was just BT being a moron....evidently the nickname went to Stringers head!

Does this mean that therefore BT is not a moron but a purveyor of truth and astute observation?