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Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread
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I think players like Sims Zak Johnson Charlie Nicholls might get as deep as 45 or later so if we can trade back for our benefit then all good. But equally I think there is a world where at 33 Faull and Gerreyn are available and you simply take one even Sims works for me. It’s a nice place to be.
Think it’s pretty simple.
We either trade up 33 for an earlier pick (with futures) or sit tight and use 33.
Match a bid on Cody (ideally late so no deficit). Possibly a bid goes a lot earlier then we like and we pass - then we may try to trade up (if have anything left).
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We either trade up 33 for an earlier pick (with futures) or sit tight and use 33.
Match a bid on Cody (ideally late so no deficit). Possibly a bid goes a lot earlier then we like and we pass - then we may try to trade up (if have anything left).
Re-rookie Gunston.
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This. There will be no juggling it's a trade for a target or pick 33.
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Yeah, I don't see anything else happening.
If we trade up to get our target then great - we've identified a talent and we got him.
If we don't then pick 33 will still get us a tall fwd we can put work into.
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That is a lot. Yuck.
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We can't do that trade. If you trade your future first, you must have a future second and future third. In that scenario, we would have neither.
A trade of our future first would require a future third coming back next year which would further jack up the price.
Moving up in this draft will require a significant overpay. "Best" deal we'd get (IMO) is 33 + F1 to GWS for 21 and F3.
At that price I'd prefer staying at 33. Then again, if you nail the pick, it's always worth it.
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Think we are pretty happy with our list, can’t see us paying a fortune to move up unless we have a top 10 on our list slide to 20 or something
We are in a great position.
Natural improvement and our trajectory from our young list see us close to winning it next year. Add Barrass and Battle and the game plan tweak with it in itself, and we should win it. Then there's Lewis on the horizon.
Rather than sell the farm for one pick this year, I'd prefer we pick best available at 33 and death-ride the blues picks next year. With pick purchasing coming in, Tassie coming in, and additionally being able to net some good returns from supefluous players next year, it will give us a decent draft hand and impetus to cut deals with clubs desperate for talent, rolling these into futures, or at worst we use the picks. Becoming a destination club again allows us to add FA's, and we set up for a decade-long sustained success and another golden era beckons.
Natural improvement and our trajectory from our young list see us close to winning it next year. Add Barrass and Battle and the game plan tweak with it in itself, and we should win it. Then there's Lewis on the horizon.
Rather than sell the farm for one pick this year, I'd prefer we pick best available at 33 and death-ride the blues picks next year. With pick purchasing coming in, Tassie coming in, and additionally being able to net some good returns from supefluous players next year, it will give us a decent draft hand and impetus to cut deals with clubs desperate for talent, rolling these into futures, or at worst we use the picks. Becoming a destination club again allows us to add FA's, and we set up for a decade-long sustained success and another golden era beckons.
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This draft is mainly rated so highly due to the depth of talent in the draft pool. The expectation is that some seriously good kids can be picked in the 30-50 range, which hasn't been the case for some years.
Personally I would prefer to see us grab the best available talent at pick 33, rather than throwing the kitchen sink at a 10-12 pick upgrade.
IMO the Weddle draft night trade upgrade was a little different, as that particular draft was viewed as much shallower for top end talent, and we clearly identified Josh as a player we were extremely keen to get.
Personally I would prefer to see us grab the best available talent at pick 33, rather than throwing the kitchen sink at a 10-12 pick upgrade.
IMO the Weddle draft night trade upgrade was a little different, as that particular draft was viewed as much shallower for top end talent, and we clearly identified Josh as a player we were extremely keen to get.
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Yeah we won't upgrade for the sake of it. It will only be for a specific couple or so players that may have slipped.
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I don’t get the fascination with having to trade just to ensure we have a first round selection in the 2024 draft. We don’t have a first round pick for a reason. And we don’t need to. Great case of FOMO.
Thankfully those in charge have more logic in their decision making.
Thankfully those in charge have more logic in their decision making.
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Me neither, trading just for the sake of, is ridiculous. We're where we are for a reason.
BUT as FP has said and I agree, if a target of ours is gettable we will trade up. We'll only do it for a specific target though.
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I really like this. Trade out and arm themselves with a huge hand next year.
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Agree. And we've taken 2 in both previous years to this.
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If pick buying and trading picks two years ahead are definitely locked in for next year... That really changes the landscape for moving up.
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No….
No, it doesn’t….
It’s not an allowable trade. Even if it were it would be a crazy use of draft capital in a draft all experts say is essentially even picks 15-35. I’ve reviewed many mock drafts I believe Gerreyn Sims Barrett will be available at 33 and in 2 others Jonty Faull was as well so I think now we just hold the pick and future capital for a big fish.
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Sorry, I should rephrase. I can't see pick 33 and a F1 moving us too far up the draft board in a highly toughted draft where hawthorn is tipped to do well next year.
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Yeah, but it's not our F1
Apologies, carlton also tipped to do well.
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