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[Captain_Brown_7]

what a basket case of a club if this happens.

I'm with you IITB.

If Wallace is sacked before his contract is up, i will NEVER buy a membership for this club again.

We have been down the path of sacking our coaches for the past 25 years and look where it has got us. You only have to look at Bomber Thompson to realise a coach needs AT LEAST 5 years to get anywhere.

 

[FSUB10Y]

I'm with you IITB.

If Wallace is sacked before his contract is up, i will NEVER buy a membership for this club again.

We have been down the path of sacking our coaches for the past 25 years and look where it has got us. You only have to look at Bomber Thompson to realise a coach needs AT LEAST 5 years to get anywhere.

Geez, we wouldn't want to upset the apple cart whilst it is sailing along so smoothly......

Forget about youth, inexperience, etc.....at this level, this is the WORST Richmond team in history, and we are 100% behind the people that have put us in this position.

We have become the softest supporters in the AFL.

For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can have NO doubts about our future given our current situation.

We keep talking about how we will become a force, but let me tell you a little secret....there are no guarantees that this will happen!!!!!

Let's keep accepting our current position and we can look forward to another 25 years of misery.

Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic!!!!!!!!

 

[mellowyellow]

Try this on for size, Joseph is a manager, Wallace wants out but knows the club can't afford to pay him so he asks Joseph to make some enquiries about the possibility of a group of supporters putting up the money to save Richmond from having to find an extra $1-1.2 mil to pay him out.

Leaving the club with the finances to secure Sheedy on a deal that sees the great one return to where it began at VFL/AFL level for him.

I don't believe this to be the case but it does add an element to the story when you really think about it.

hehe... gave me an early morning laugh

 

[_RT_]

Let me just say right now, I want Wallace to remain at Punt Rd for as long as he is doing what is needed to turn this club around and achieve some success. However, it must also be remembered that Wallace has walked out on clubs before as both a player and coach when things have got a little too hard/complicated.

Lets just hope that Wallace is not thinking like this now and isn't prepared to take the money and run. Just hope this is all just hot air and Joseph acting like a nutcase.

 

[_RT_]

hehe... gave me an early morning laugh

You wouldn't be laughing if it was actually the case. All that was revealed in the footy show last night was Joseph was looking at a deal involving some Richmond people away from the board, now thinking outside the square and something like what I suggested is not that hard to imagine.

 

[I Rock]

Let me just say right now, I want Wallace to remain at Punt Rd for as long as he is doing what is needed to turn this club around and achieve some success. However, it must also be remembered that Wallace has walked out on clubs before as both a player and coach when things have got a little too hard/complicated.

Lets just hope that Wallace is not thinking like this now and isn't prepared to take the money and run. Just hope this is all just hot air and Joseph acting like a nutcase.

I just don't think Wallace would walk at this stage, there would be no coming back from it. He would lose all credibility and struggle to even get a job writing footy articles for the Castlemaine Times.

I think that Wallace wants/needs to be know as the man the revived the RFC.

 

[_RT_]

Geez, we wouldn't want to upset the apple cart whilst it is sailing along so smoothly......

Forget about youth, inexperience, etc.....at this level, this is the WORST Richmond team in history, and we are 100% behind the people that have put us in this position.

We have become the softest supporters in the AFL.

For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can have NO doubts about our future given our current situation.

We keep talking about how we will become a force, but let me tell you a little secret....there are no guarantees that this will happen!!!!!

Let's keep accepting our current position and we can look forward to another 25 years of misery.

Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic!!!!!!!!

How is us wanting to stick behind Wallace pathetic? From where I stand getting rid of another coach halfway through a contract is what would be truly pathetic. You're right though there are no guarantees that we will be successful under Wallace but I bet when his 5 year contract is up the club will be in a much better position both onfield and off than when he arrived.

 

[emperor]

Hard to tell what is going to happen. Wallace's walk out on the Dogs is certainly lingering in the back of my mind.

Unfortunately I seem to remember some kind of turmoil leading up to our last encounter with the Cats. I pray this has the opposite effect to last time

 

[Roachy8]

Geez, we wouldn't want to upset the apple cart whilst it is sailing along so smoothly......

Forget about youth, inexperience, etc.....at this level, this is the WORST Richmond team in history, and we are 100% behind the people that have put us in this position.

We have become the softest supporters in the AFL.

For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can have NO doubts about our future given our current situation.

We keep talking about how we will become a force, but let me tell you a little secret....there are no guarantees that this will happen!!!!!

Let's keep accepting our current position and we can look forward to another 25 years of misery.

Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic!!!!!!!!

No I can't agree with most of your post.

- We are heading towards the WORST result from a team in Richmond's history. I don't accept that the kids playing at the moment should be burdened with the label of "worst team" however.

- We are NOT the softest supporters in the AFL. We hurt just as much as anyone & sometimes holding your nerve and doing nothing and being patient is a far more courageous decission than flailing about prematurely.

- We don't have NO doubts. Some of us simply believe there would be MORE doubts if we changed course again. And yes you are right. There are no guarantees irrespective of which path you choose.

- We don't accept our possition, hence some of us have the balls to tough it out.

Come on Tigers... GROW SOME!

 

[_RT_]

I just don't think Wallace would walk at this stage, there would be no coming back from it. He would lose all credibility and struggle to even get a job writing footy articles for the Castlemaine Times.

I think that Wallace wants/needs to be know as the man the revived the RFC.

As I said I don't think he would walk either but in saying that I don't think Dogs fans thought he was going to walk out on them when he did.

When Wallace said he had unfinished business when he first got the job at Richmond I think that was his intention all along, to be the man that saved the RFC from itself, however I get the feeling he didn't count on the clowns who just want success now and don't worry about the future. Seeing as Wallace is not delivering the success they want the pressure gets applied. Time this club showed some balls and stuck by the process they put in place.

 

[mellowyellow]

You wouldn't be laughing if it was actually the case. All that was revealed in the footy show last night was Joseph was looking at a deal involving some Richmond people away from the board, now thinking outside the square and something like what I suggested is not that hard to imagine.

Thinking outside the square, as you put it ,leads to wild specualtion and baseless hypothesizing,such as was evident in your posting . But you go right ahead.lol

 

[I Rock]

As I said I don't think he would walk either but in saying that I don't think Dogs fans thought he was going to walk out on them when he did.

When Wallace said he had unfinished business when he first got the job at Richmond I think that was his intention all along, to be the man that saved the RFC from itself, however I get the feeling he didn't count on the clowns who just want success now and don't worry about the future. Seeing as Wallace is not delivering the success they want the pressure gets applied. Time this club showed some balls and stuck by the process they put in place.

I think that they are, it's only a few in the media, a handful of supporters and a group of "powerful" Richmond fans saying otherwise.

 

[itsintheblood]

I think the big difference here as oppossed to other years is that the fans want the coach to stay, as do most of the board.

I think that there is just alot of hot air going on ATM. The worst thing to happen at this club is if Wallavce gets the chop and Sheedy or whoever else also fails no self repecting coach is goping to want to go near the joint.

However worse case senario with Wallace is that the team fails again next year and he gets the boot, the new coach see's potential in the list and feels that they are just missing some key elements that he feels he can rectify.

As much as Im starting to dislike wallace and his coaching methods, we signed him for 5 years and must honor the contract UNLESS this time next year we've only won 1 game again.

I have more vitriol for those responsible for our recruiting blunders.

 

[jackson_rules]

I'm with you IITB.

If Wallace is sacked before his contract is up, i will NEVER buy a membership for this club again.

We have been down the path of sacking our coaches for the past 25 years and look where it has got us. You only have to look at Bomber Thompson to realise a coach needs AT LEAST 5 years to get anywhere.

thats weak, i buy my membership because i love the club and no matter how bad things are i buy my membership EVERY year no matter what

 

[_RT_]

Thinking outside the square, as you put it ,leads to wild specualtion and baseless hypothesizing,such as was evident in your posting . But you go right ahead.lol

You did catch the part where I said I don't believe this to be the case. Just putting it out there as a possible explanation as to why this occured.

 

[itsintheblood]

thats weak, i buy my membership because i love the club and no matter how bad things are i buy my membership EVERY year no matter what

As much as you hate to think, there is no doubt the current state of the club will impact significantly on membership next year. I'd say a 15% drop with little doubt. At $120 a pop, that a lazy $540k. People will only take so much and won't put up with spin and mediocrity for much longer. This year's results will have an impact financially.

 

[jackson_rules]

As much as you hate to think, there is no doubt the current state of the club will impact significantly on membership next year. I'd say a 15% drop with little doubt. At $120 a pop, that a lazy $540k. People will only take so much and won't put up with spin and mediocrity for much longer. This year's results will have an impact financially.

and those people who dont buy there memberships next year will be the first tell how there the biggest supporters once we start winning, there ****ing weak

 

[Captain_Brown_7]

thats weak, i buy my membership because i love the club and no matter how bad things are i buy my membership EVERY year no matter what

No, you know what is weak??

Sacking your coach every 3 years.....

I have had enough of this crap. When we instated TW, we gave him 5 years to rebuild the club. IMO, he has done a fantastic job to date. He has brought in some good young kids and extracted most of the dead wood.

Supporters of this club need to realise that we can't go chopping and changing coaches every 3-4 years. It hasn't worked in the past so why would it work now? FFS, lets all get behind the club and watch our young players grow and develop.

 

[itsintheblood]

and those people who dont buy there memberships next year will be the first tell how there the biggest supporters once we start winning, there ****ing weak

It's the nature of the beast JR. Personally I will never not renew but there are those who are fickle and it doesn't take much for them to spend their money on other things and then come back when things improve.

 

[jackson_rules]

No, you know what is weak??

Sacking your coach every 3 years.....

I have had enough of this crap. When we instated TW, we gave him 5 years to rebuild the club. IMO, he has done a fantastic job to date. He has brought in some good young kids and extracted most of the dead wood.

Supporters of this club need to realise that we can't go chopping and changing coaches every 3-4 years. It hasn't worked in the past so why would it work now? FFS, lets all get behind the club and watch our young players grow and develop.

go back and read my other posts in this thread, im true supporter who stays by the club no matter what, which youve shown you are not

 

[want2spoodge_pettifer]

go back and read my other posts in this thread, im true supporter who stays by the club no matter what, which youve shown you are not

you may love the club, but they sure as hell don't give a rat's arse about you. constant lying (even about little things like injuries for **** sake), spin doctoring and presentation of false hopes have made me decide to stay the f.uck away from a membership until we return to something like a football club. i think it's fair enough, too. why throw away my money to a club that doesn't give a **** about it's supporter base?
throw us another line, terry.

 

[CoggaRules]

go back and read my other posts in this thread, im true supporter who stays by the club no matter what, which youve shown you are not

oh FFS give it up dude...sick and tired of morons like you suggesting to others that you are. Big ****ing deal, there are people that want to tell the club that they arent happy, if whatever comes of this situation.
How would you go about that fool? how? by voicing your opinion on BF? woopee dooo moron.
Do you for one moment believe that those who want to make a stand, would want the club to go down? no, so stop the with the ****ing simplistic "i am a true supporter" shit.

 

[corporal]

Why couldn't my great grandfather have grown up in a suburb other then Richmond and saved me from a life of following a club that has had absolutely no successful and that is yet again a long long long away from anything good.

 

[GiveGasTheFlick]

I'm with you IITB.

If Wallace is sacked before his contract is up, i will NEVER buy a membership for this club again.

We have been down the path of sacking our coaches for the past 25 years and look where it has got us. You only have to look at Bomber Thompson to realise a coach needs AT LEAST 5 years to get anywhere.

I'm with you Captain i will never ever buy a membership if they get rid of Terry.It will set us back another 5 years and that we don't need let him finish the job and bring us a flag we have been craving for and then watch these media tossers be all over us and we can have the pleasure of "sticking it up them".When we are successfull we will have 40.000 members without a problem and you will never hear a roar like it b4 at the "g" Go tigers KEEP THE FAITH.

 

[Tas]

No, you know what is weak??

Sacking your coach every 3 years.....

I have had enough of this crap. When we instated TW, we gave him 5 years to rebuild the club. IMO, he has done a fantastic job to date. He has brought in some good young kids and extracted most of the dead wood.

Supporters of this club need to realise that we can't go chopping and changing coaches every 3-4 years. It hasn't worked in the past so why would it work now? FFS, lets all get behind the club and watch our young players grow and develop.

So, of the coaches that were "sacked" which one would you have kept on? The only decent coach Richmond has appointed as far back as I can remember was Northey and he left for a better deal, all the others have been shithouse coaches.

I don't think the problem is sacking coaches, I think the problem has been which coaches have been given the job in the past. Can't blame the supporters if they have had enough of a coach not taking the team forwards.

When you are not winning and not a show for the finals/flag then it is all about list development, that is the only thing you have going for you to say you are doing your job. Terry's tune changed significantly this year once the team was losing, the 5 year plan turned to 8-10 years and some of the list decisions last year were not consistent with a longer term plan.

If he is the man for the job and he has a solid plan and working towards it then yeah, he deserves the time to see it through, if he keeps changing the plan and not meeting his original objectives then there must be some doubt about what he can achieve given any length of time.