Bigman’s Training Reports

[TheEarlyCrow]

Ummmm. I’d say Footy Park. You know where our facilities and oval are.

I should have been more specific,
What other thread do we chat on now?

 

[Flip Side]

Last I heard he was back training with the main group and working on getting his fitness up to scratch? Have you heard different?

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

 

[cmndstab]

I should have been more specific,
What other thread do we chat on now?

There are generally discussions about how training has gone in the Changes thread each week.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

Players are playing the mental health card for when it best suits them and to get their preferred avenue to a new club

It’s disrespectful to those who are dealing with mental health in a day to day basis


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[Kane McGoodwin]

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

Beveridge said a week or so back that he doesn't know whether JUH will play again this year.

He wasn't sugar coating the issue.

 

[Mutineer]

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

Nope, he was definitely back in at the club and attending every training session at that time.
Obviously things changed.

The Dogs were never not taking Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Hamish made it quite clear to Riley what their strategy was prior to draft night.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Nope, he was definitely back in at the club and attending every training session at that time.
Obviously things changed.

The Dogs were never not taking Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Hamish made it quite clear to Riley what their strategy was prior to draft night.

I heard in the last week or two on local abc grandstand from a senior WB person (ceo or pres, can't remember that), "the goal now with jamara is to increase his attendance at the club and get him back training with the group". It sounded to me that they were in pure support mode much more so than football mode.

It's sad and unfortunate for everyone involved.

 

[tinman]

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

There was no bullet dodged. Dogs were always going to match, they had traded out of the first round for points to match the bid.

 

[Flip Side]

There was no bullet dodged. Dogs were always going to match, they had traded out of the first round for points to match the bid.

I accept your rationale -

However, the longer term discussion was related to how Crows supporters would have been freaking out way back in Feb had JUH been on the list (in light of McAsey) along with all the rumours. (Which would be true)

It was also suggested I wrote JUH off too early, and we were assured that there was no big deal, JUH was fine, coming from people inside his camp, and he’d be back in the fold soonish.

Of course one could argue no preseason usually turns to underperformance regardless, but hey that’s splitting hairs when the man doesn’t seem to want to play at all.

 

[GROTTO]

I accept your rationale -

However, the longer term discussion was related to how Crows supporters would have been freaking out way back in Feb had JUH been on the list (in light of McAsey) along with all the rumours. (Which would be true)

It was also suggested I wrote JUH off too early, and we were assured that there was no big deal, JUH was fine, coming from people inside his camp, and he’d be back in the fold soonish.

Of course one could argue no preseason usually turns to underperformance regardless, but hey that’s splitting hairs when the man doesn’t seem to want to play at all.

Imagine the meltdown on here and yet another 1st rounder blown, had we actually had JUH in our squad in 2025 instead of TT.

 

[Flip Side]

Imagine the meltdown on here and yet another 1st rounder blown, had we actually had JUH in our squad in 2025 instead of TT.

100%

Imagine losing your prospective full back and full forward inside 2 years

 

[Mostyn]

Nope, he was definitely back in at the club and attending every training session at that time.
Obviously things changed.

Did they?

When you posted that originally, people questioned you because every piece of football media were reporting the issues with Jamarra.

Is there anywhere that reported he was attending every training session? It sounds like he's been nowhere for a long time.

 

[119others]

Did they?

When you posted that originally, people questioned you because every piece of football media were reporting the issues with Jamarra.

Is there anywhere that reported he was attending every training session? It sounds like he's been nowhere for a long time.

I thought 360 reported going back 2-3 weeks that he had trained for 2 weeks straight. I can’t recall if that was by himself or with the team but yeah there seems to have been deterioration since then.

 

[1970crow]

Seems like those close to the JUH were either delusional, highly optimistic or were lying to you.

Two games in, no closer to playing for dogs.

Latest is that JUH gets anxiety from being near teammates & big AFL crowds so won’t go to games.

However, going to NBL, NRL, the pub, displayed on instagram - are all sweet as.

I’m glad this impending train wreck of a situation slipped by the Crows when the Dogs matched.

I’ll say again Crows supporters would be melting by this point. Instead we celebrate Thilthorpe.

There was never any risk they’d not match. They had all the second and third rounders lined up and ready to go. Interesting we bid on both recent high end, young & troubled kids.

 

[1970crow]

Did they?

When you posted that originally, people questioned you because every piece of football media were reporting the issues with Jamarra.

Is there anywhere that reported he was attending every training session? It sounds like he's been nowhere for a long time.

‘Flexible training arrangements’ was the term used. Basically turning up to every session they expected him to, which was none.

 

[Mostyn]

I thought 360 reported going back 2-3 weeks that he had trained for 2 weeks straight. I can’t recall if that was by himself or with the team but yeah there seems to have been deterioration since then.

Okay, fair enough. I haven't seen anything like that, only the reports that he's been absent.

 

[rabidcrow]

Nope, he was definitely back in at the club and attending every training session at that time.
Obviously things changed.

The Dogs were never not taking Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Hamish made it quite clear to Riley what their strategy was prior to draft night.

You are 100 % correct

Given JUH was the face of the Dogs membership drive BEFORE the Draft they were locked into taking him - we just made them pay full value. We were always taking Thilthorpe (and posted that at the time due to a contact with Westies and knowing the Crows had managed Thilthorpes injury from mid SANFL season)


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[Mutineer]

Did they?

When you posted that originally, people questioned you because every piece of football media were reporting the issues with Jamarra.

Is there anywhere that reported he was attending every training session? It sounds like he's been nowhere for a long time.

Look I got that from a GWV Rebel staff contact and they'd heard it from their Warnambool contact where a lot of the Rebels lads train etc where Ugle-Hagan trained and played before Scotch College/Oakleigh Chargers poached him. That source is very reliable re GWV Rebel mail emanating out of Warrnambool. You can believe it or not I really don't give a fig.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bulldogs-forward-line-plans-still-up-in-the-air-as-jamarra-uglehagan-nears-training-return/news-story/fd835fc2594358c89e4965fd4f1dd967

Ugle-Hagan’s emotional return to senior training on Wednesday is only the start of a lengthy reintegration with the star forced to prove his fitness and commitment before an AFL return.

Ugle-Hagan finally returned to training at Whitten Oval in a significant sign of his improved health, with the out-of-contract key forward barely stringing together consecutive sessions across the entire summer.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...n/news-story/6e9a46786e1ee76db84c61739e5b372e

He has spent most of the pre-season training away from the club and, while he has been back at the Whitten Oval over the past couple of weeks, his return to playing is expected to be months, not weeks away.

 

[Flip Side]

There was never any risk they’d not match. They had all the second and third rounders lined up and ready to go. Interesting we bid on both recent high end, young & troubled kids.

Yeah I covered this earlier

 

[Flip Side]

You are 100 % correct

Given JUH was the face of the Dogs membership drive BEFORE the Draft they were locked into taking him - we just made them pay full value. We were always taking Thilthorpe (and posted that at the time due to a contact with Westies and knowing the Crows had managed Thilthorpes injury from mid SANFL season)


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100% correct apart from the crucial bit about JUH attending every training, which was erroneous.

So maybe not 100%? Yeah more like 50%

 

[rabidcrow]

100% correct apart from the crucial bit about JUH attending every training, which was erroneous.

So maybe not 100%? Yeah more like 50%

My point was responding to the Dogs were 100% guaranteed to match our bid for JUH

And that was 100% accurate - the other part of the argument around his training this year - no comment


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