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This seems to come up a lot - the proposition that small business won’t be able to afford to pay a living wage. This was asked and answered many decades ago:
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Avocados have never been so expensive
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Not really much else to Melbourne though is there?
Opening a cafe etc is melburnians favourite way to blow their savings/assets
50% of sales actually, but still fluff. I doubt the industry could actually supply that. its been miniscule up till now
Isnt the biggest problem resale values?. Battery replacement and standardised batteries would encourage third party replacements in that space.
No resale of Tesla's is the highest I think of any cars. There some limo company in Melbourne that uses them who said that battery capacity has reduced a few percent over 5 years irrc with 7 day continuous use. They think the battery will last the useful life of the car. Australia with Sydney and Melbourne 200% bigger than London and the huge distances between regional centres does not lend itself to electric cars.
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It's an Aussie thing.
Read somewhere recently that Sweden (I think) has 50% of cars currently hybrid or electric. Aussie take up rates are the lowest in the developed world.
From my limited knowledge, I forsee electric transport being huge in the public space here. Not so much private ownership
People have bought 4WD here just in case they make one outback trip in it, they'll see the limited range of one as being a deal breaker even if thats never actually an issue for them.
And lets be honest. a Tesla owner is doing it as much for show as any prestige buyer. the 'environment' thing is just another box ticked. Probably runs on dirty coal if truth be known.
People have bought 4WD here just in case they make one outback trip in it, they'll see the limited range of one as being a deal breaker even if thats never actually an issue for them.
And lets be honest. a Tesla owner is doing it as much for show as any prestige buyer. the 'environment' thing is just another box ticked. Probably runs on dirty coal if truth be known.
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Yeah, like Roof Top Solar and Wind Farms....no, wait
Both of which are highly subsidized, solar panels mainly to the well off
You want to subsidize the top end of town with Tesla's Mercs etc?
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Ha ha ha.....need a safe space?
Problem is that The minimum wage is already above the living wage and we are increasing it further. Calling it a living does not mean it is a living wage. Its word trickery. No one is dying because they cant afford to live off the current minimum wage.
Using Evs in australia given our coal powered generation significantly increases our emissions. It will be atleast another decade if not longer before EVs produce less emissions then petroluem based vehicles. Evs should be banned in australia until we clean up our power.
It may be that solar households may take-up EVs sooner than others, especially with the new two-way charge models that you can effectively use as home battery storage, that will be coming onto the market later this year.
The more immediate threat of EVs is not so much coal generation, as significant as that is. It's additional pressure on the grid at weak points. An EV is the equivalent of a large air conditioner being added to a house and turned on all the time it is charging. If you have sudden, mass take-up of people using EVs and charging them up when they get home at peak time, parts of the network are not going to cope.
ABC had the stats on the news last night. Roughly 30% in Norway, 4.4% in China are electric, with around 1% in each of France, UK, Germany.
So much for Labor/the Greens cultural cringe about us being "behind the rest of the world".
Yes, eventually people will move towards more sustainable ways of powering their vehicles.
But this sort of target on electric vehicles in barely a decade's time is exactly the sort of dopey policy that loses an election. Just ask Gillard what she thinks about the petrol guzzling car buyback.
But this sort of target on electric vehicles in barely a decade's time is exactly the sort of dopey policy that loses an election. Just ask Gillard what she thinks about the petrol guzzling car buyback.
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This. The increase demand on the grid will make things very hairy.
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The CEO of my company installed a few charging points in the HQ parking lot and makes a big deal of that he drives a Tesla. But he keeps quiet about his v12 Aston Martin. During business hours he's mostly chauffeured around in a big Merc.
Most people only want one car that serves all their needs and currently electric cars don't cut it. Last year only 0.2% of new car purchases were EVs ie 1 car in 500. Shorten wanting half of all new cars sales to be EVs by 2030 is cloud cuckoo land.
Bill Shorten is the AOC of Australian politics. Lifting wages will only make businesses increase the price of products to pay for the wages. It also makes business think about not hiring or hiring for less hours. I have no issue with penalty rates, I think people need to be compensated for working outside business hours. More renewables means more unreliable energy and more expensive energy, again putting up prices on things that require it. As for as the electric cars, that's unrealistic as we don't have a market yet and electric cars are expensive to make. Sure they will come down in cost over time, but both Labor and Liberal have done nothing to look after the Australian car industries, they needed to restrict imported cars to protect the Australian cars. EV's are for the people who are well off and the other problem is the infrastructure which will cost a fortune and we'll have less reliable energy to run it. He also talks about more recycling which also costs a lot of money. Recycling is done better if it's done privately than government run.
Walking down the street in the bush town where I live was quite surpised to see a couple of Tesla chargers.
