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That may be something clubs may have to start considering, in order to attract and retain players for the future... im sure that the league local teams pay their players so as afl expands it may be an avenue clubs should start to look at

This was exactly my point. I know for certain a lot of local rugby league players get paid (and quite a lot, for a local competition) and I'd assume the same would be the case for rugby union.

While there will always be people who are dedicated enough and love the game enough to train five nights a week (although if they have this amount of spare time I'd be perhaps suggesting they find other things to fill their time), this simply isn't an achievable outcome for most players. While players are unpaid, playing football can only be a hobby.

No-one pretends that there is not a commitment problem with some of the teams who are not succeeding, but in the end I think it comes down to resources. Some clubs have the resources available to run training more than twice a week and enlist specialist help, but others don't. Similarly, some players have the resources available to give up more time than two nights per week and all day Saturday, but others don't.

So I think it's a bit rich to assume that just because some teams have the ability to invest significant time and funds in extended training programs, that this extends to all the teams in the league. Perhaps paying players is thus something that needs to be looked at if the league is going to become truly competitive.

ps. I note the inclusion of a lot of Cardiff players in the rep team! What a strange coincidence. I also note that Liam Gibson, who has apparently not played a game this season due to injury, is included in the supplementary list. Even if this is with an eye to the June long weekend, it seems an interesting way to reward all those players who have played well so far this season and who were not included in the team or the list.
 
So I think it's a bit rich to assume that just because some teams have the ability to invest significant time and funds in extended training programs, that this extends to all the teams in the league. Perhaps paying players is thus something that needs to be looked at if the league is going to become truly competitive.

1 question, if lower clubs dont have the resources to fund training programs how are they going to pay players?
 
This was exactly my point. I know for certain a lot of local rugby league players get paid (and quite a lot, for a local competition) and I'd assume the same would be the case for rugby union.

While there will always be people who are dedicated enough and love the game enough to train five nights a week (although if they have this amount of spare time I'd be perhaps suggesting they find other things to fill their time), this simply isn't an achievable outcome for most players. While players are unpaid, playing football can only be a hobby.

No-one pretends that there is not a commitment problem with some of the teams who are not succeeding, but in the end I think it comes down to resources. Some clubs have the resources available to run training more than twice a week and enlist specialist help, but others don't. Similarly, some players have the resources available to give up more time than two nights per week and all day Saturday, but others don't.

So I think it's a bit rich to assume that just because some teams have the ability to invest significant time and funds in extended training programs, that this extends to all the teams in the league. Perhaps paying players is thus something that needs to be looked at if the league is going to become truly competitive.

ps. I note the inclusion of a lot of Cardiff players in the rep team! What a strange coincidence. I also note that Liam Gibson, who has apparently not played a game this season due to injury, is included in the supplementary list. Even if this is with an eye to the June long weekend, it seems an interesting way to reward all those players who have played well so far this season and who were not included in the team or the list.
Yes it may be a coincidence that Cardiff have a large portion but they are the dominant 1st grade team at the moment and deservidly so. I have heard on good authority that Liam Gibson has been training with the club twice a week in order to be ready for any game once he is back fit and ready. However i do agree with you that there are others that have been available and have been playing good footy who possibly deserve a go. (politics) maybe.??
The payment of players doesnt work in the NDCA competition from what I have been told, and to actively promote such a thing in the BDAFL would be to the detriment of those clubs that are struggling. Infrastructure at the top within the clubs and looking after your Juniors will ensure that clubs will get stronger and more attractive to those whom are looking to play AFL footy.
 

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Senior rep game- BDAFL by 3 goals
18s rep game- BDAFL by 15 goals
Gosford by 3 goals
Killarney by 20 goals
 
No real surprises in the players selected for the rep team. Dominated by Cardiff and City as everyone expected. One surpirse exclusion however is Scott Ducker from the Bulldogs. With sublime skills, hard running, strong hands and some top form this year I'm really surprised that he didn't line up on the ball for this weekends match. Capable of playing in the ruck, forward or back I believe his exclusion is an interesting choice by selectors and we will have to see if a depleted Black diamond midfield can cope against a Sydney outfit minus the leadership and pungent presence of Scott Ducker on the field. What did everybody else think about the rep side?
 
Rep game- who really cares? If players like Haines can get a run before blokes like Amidy and Shackleton its a laugh. Saw Dave Dunning and Tim Snelling from Killarney dominate Gosford last Saturday, why arent they in the side? Would surely give more than a couple of the guys there.
Tips for the weekend
Sydney by 5 goals
Lake Macquarie by 4 goals. Gosford were awful after half time last week and have no idea about accountability and the crows look like they have more to play for this week
Killarney by 25 goals- Bombers hit their straps last week despite White and Amidy having quiet games and will be too good for Wyong
 
Very nice point Miss BD. It is rather amusing to be honest just how confident Cardiff are. Correct me if I'm wrong but as memory serves Warners Bay beat Cardiff two out of the three matches they played last season? Including knocking them out of competition in the semi final? Interesting to see what happens when Cardiff meet a full strength Warners Bay outfit in a few weeks....Also Miss BD it's great to see some chicks on the board!

last year's cardiff club is a fair bit different to this year's club. new president, secretary etc. new recruits, new coach, new captains. so judging how well WB will do against cardiff from last year's team is a bit inaccurate. but a good game nevertheless.
 
Rep game- who really cares? If players like Haines can get a run before blokes like Amidy and Shackleton its a laugh. Saw Dave Dunning and Tim Snelling from Killarney dominate Gosford last Saturday, why arent they in the side? Would surely give more than a couple of the guys there.
Tips for the weekend
Sydney by 5 goals
Lake Macquarie by 4 goals. Gosford were awful after half time last week and have no idea about accountability and the crows look like they have more to play for this week
Killarney by 25 goals- Bombers hit their straps last week despite White and Amidy having quiet games and will be too good for Wyong

Very harsh in my opinion about Ben Haines. The guy is 18 years old, playing well and is a talent. Considering the team will play three games in one day at Wagga, I think someone of his fitness, speed and skill is a good inclusion. Having said that Amidy and Snelling are excellent players and are hard done by.
 
Very nice point Miss BD. It is rather amusing to be honest just how confident Cardiff are. Correct me if I'm wrong but as memory serves Warners Bay beat Cardiff two out of the three matches they played last season? Including knocking them out of competition in the semi final? Interesting to see what happens when Cardiff meet a full strength Warners Bay outfit in a few weeks....Also Miss BD it's great to see some chicks on the board!

keep living in the past champ!!! and just what did Warners bay acheive last season, a premiership? Nope, A league best and fairest? Nope, any sort of humility in victory? Nope, A disgrace to the league at the presentation night? Yep
 
This was exactly my point. I know for certain a lot of local rugby league players get paid (and quite a lot, for a local competition) and I'd assume the same would be the case for rugby union.

While there will always be people who are dedicated enough and love the game enough to train five nights a week (although if they have this amount of spare time I'd be perhaps suggesting they find other things to fill their time), this simply isn't an achievable outcome for most players. While players are unpaid, playing football can only be a hobby.

No-one pretends that there is not a commitment problem with some of the teams who are not succeeding, but in the end I think it comes down to resources. Some clubs have the resources available to run training more than twice a week and enlist specialist help, but others don't. Similarly, some players have the resources available to give up more time than two nights per week and all day Saturday, but others don't.

So I think it's a bit rich to assume that just because some teams have the ability to invest significant time and funds in extended training programs, that this extends to all the teams in the league. Perhaps paying players is thus something that needs to be looked at if the league is going to become truly competitive.

ps. I note the inclusion of a lot of Cardiff players in the rep team! What a strange coincidence. I also note that Liam Gibson, who has apparently not played a game this season due to injury, is included in the supplementary list. Even if this is with an eye to the June long weekend, it seems an interesting way to reward all those players who have played well so far this season and who were not included in the team or the list.

You people keep harping on about Gibsons selection, If he hadnt of been selected it would be a disgrace. Sorry folks but a rep side isnt a charity event and your fav average joe's may be playing well this season, in fact they may be dominating the competition but they have to show it in big games year in year out. Gibson has more big game experience and is also experienced at rep level, if he's gunna be fit he gets picked even if that Dugan bloke wasnt coach. ( Talk about tall poppy syndrome ) I'm beginning to like Cardiff.
 
last year's cardiff club is a fair bit different to this year's club. new president, secretary etc. new recruits, new coach, new captains. so judging how well WB will do against cardiff from last year's team is a bit inaccurate. but a good game nevertheless.

It could be said that the Warners Bay club has also undergone some massive changes this season. New coaches, new captains, 50 plus at training compared with 15 last season and many new recruits from good leagues. It seems Cardiff is not the only club in the BDAFL to attract new players... Warners Bay are yet to field a full strength team this season so it will definitely be an interesting game!
 
keep living in the past champ!!! and just what did Warners bay acheive last season, a premiership? Nope, A league best and fairest? Nope, any sort of humility in victory? Nope, A disgrace to the league at the presentation night? Yep

I seem to constantly have someone telling me how good Cardiff are...9 out of the last 11 Grand Finals (or whatever the figure is) I won't dwell on that figure too much since I've been instructed to not live in the past? I assume you are from Cardiff, so I ask you...what did Cardiff achieve last year as a team? besides bowing out to Warners Bay in the semi final? And then making excuses about it?
 
courtney knight is now out of the rep team due to a facial injury he received on saturday night while walking through the hunter street mall, courtney was hoping to play but due to the seriousness of the wound on his cheek he has be warned about playing
 

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With Knights late withdrawal surely this is the opportunity the rep selectors need to get Scott Ducker in the side. His hard nosed presence and never say die attitude will surely carry the BDAFL to victory! In regards to Hainsey I have no doubt he has been picked on potential. He has all the athletic ability in the world, he just needs to get better and think quicker with the footy in his hands and he has improved massively in this area since I first saw him a couple of years ago playing for Singo, but is he more deserving of a spot than guys like Shackleton and Amidy who performed on the biggest stage of grand final day last season? Bit strange that last years premiers only have 2 blokes in the rep side.
 
How can you put Ducker into the side when he wasn't in the squad?? Amidy should get a run now that Knight is out, but was probably a victim of checking out the potential of some others anyway. He'll be there in Wagga
 
How can you put Ducker into the side when he wasn't in the squad?? Amidy should get a run now that Knight is out, but was probably a victim of checking out the potential of some others anyway. He'll be there in Wagga

I'm sure Scott Ducker is a fine specimen of a man but did it occur to you that these gentlemen might be having a lend of you?
 
keep living in the past champ!!! and just what did Warners bay acheive last season, a premiership? Nope, A league best and fairest? Nope, any sort of humility in victory? Nope, A disgrace to the league at the presentation night? Yep

People in glasshouses, hey! From what I can recall, Cardiff didn't get a premiership either. And as far as humility in victory is concerned, well...that's very much in the eye of the beholder. I think there's quite a few teams who could teach Cardiff something about humility.
 
I seem to constantly have someone telling me how good Cardiff are...9 out of the last 11 Grand Finals (or whatever the figure is) I won't dwell on that figure too much since I've been instructed to not live in the past? I assume you are from Cardiff, so I ask you...what did Cardiff achieve last year as a team? besides bowing out to Warners Bay in the semi final? And then making excuses about it?

keep living in the past champ!!! and just what did Warners bay acheive last season, a premiership? Nope, A league best and fairest? Nope, any sort of humility in victory? Nope, A disgrace to the league at the presentation night? Yep
 
im just wondering if anyone has read the letter that was sent out to prospective representative players?? it stated that their selection in the squad was a reward for their form shown this year. selecting players yet to play a game does seem quite the contrary, but if you were picked without playing a game... good on ya! the league is showing you some respect.... even if it is supposed to be a 2008 representative team not a 2007 or 2006 or 1999. reward the little guys!!!! vote 1 scott ducker!
 
People in glasshouses, hey! From what I can recall, Cardiff didn't get a premiership either. And as far as humility in victory is concerned, well...that's very much in the eye of the beholder. I think there's quite a few teams who could teach Cardiff something about humility.

Yeah I reckon the jehovas Witnesses can teach Cardiff about humility. We could also get the Pope across to teach Warners Bay about the same subject But unfortunately for you Misses BD your trying to take on the king and we will have to get Satan to curb your wild allegations.
 
on a different matter.... has anyone heard of or seen the new gun player that has supposedly started training for terrigal?? His name is Obsidean Blackbird-McKnight and apparently he is the goods...... played gaelic footy in his homeland and could really shake things up in the bdafl. it would be good to see him weave his magic first hand
 
Yeah I reckon the jehovas Witnesses can teach Cardiff about humility. We could also get the Pope across to teach Warners Bay about the same subject But unfortunately for you Misses BD your trying to take on the king and we will have to get Satan to curb your wild allegations.
I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at with your mixed religious metaphors, but consider me warned.
 
keep living in the past champ!!! and just what did Warners bay acheive last season, a premiership? Nope, A league best and fairest? Nope, any sort of humility in victory? Nope, A disgrace to the league at the presentation night? Yep

How original of you...All I can say is that you're a class act. Your Spelling leaves a bit to be desired however....
 
I'm sure Scott Ducker is a fine specimen of a man but did it occur to you that these gentlemen might be having a lend of you?

Having a lend? Obviously you don't know who Scott Ducker is...
I agree with Deitzy...If Scott Ducker is not included in the rep side after Courtney Knight's withdrawal I will be astonished. Miss BD, you are yet to experience the Duck man fly...
 
If any one's interested looked like this was the rep side..

FB: Haines Grentell Newburn
HB: Rawnsley, C. Clarke Stewart
C: Sheldon Orton White
HF: Molan Flynn Van Dam
FF: Bishop Ryan Conlan
F: Kemp Knight A. Clarke

B: Burrows Amidy M. Smith Crotty + Polglaise ?

Any comments? Anyone there, thoughts?

Thought the Burrows/Conlan experiment was a mistake... Can only really carry one of them, needed some in and under types.... Thought Bishop + Clarke battled on the ground, and the big fellas up forward
 
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