Injury Blue Healers Medical Room - 2023

[Jeremias]

Not sure what people are talking about. Philp's VFL form (and practise match form) was very good prior to injury. So much so that he rightly had made his senior debut and was right in the mix to feature more at senior level.

Yes he does have deficiencies to his game but no player doesn't.

 

[Jimmae]

Not sure what people are talking about. Philp's VFL form (and practise match form) was very good prior to injury. So much so that he rightly had made his senior debut and was right in the mix to feature more at senior level.

Yes he does have deficiencies to his game but no player doesn't.

Fumbling because of a hand injury that he's never fully recovered from, so in terms of chronic injury history that's:

• Groin
• Wrist
• Foot

This will be Philp's second attempt to resume from a foot stress fracture in 6 months, an injury he's had for 12 months. He's had so many injuries that will curtail his skills and athleticism that I forgot what he went down with last year.

Explains why 5 months recovery seemed fast: it's not 5 months.

 

[Coops93]

Not sure what people are talking about. Philp's VFL form (and practise match form) was very good prior to injury. So much so that he rightly had made his senior debut and was right in the mix to feature more at senior level.

Yes he does have deficiencies to his game but no player doesn't.

Very good may be generous. In 10 games in '22 he averaged 13 touches. Just before his injury it was better but not exactly amazing, with 21 & 22 possessions in his 3 games before injury. In fairness the 21 possession game came with 3 goals so that's a belter, but the rest of the season was just so-so, as evidenced by the average of 14 in 9 games if the injured game is removed.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

McGovern has re-signed apparently…that’s one perennially injured player backed.

I’m really reticent in keeping another perennially injured player, we have Marchbank/Philp and Cuningham left. All have proven to get injured in every way possible.

It’s time to move on and get some stability/continuity in the list overall.


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[Jeremias]

Very good may be generous. In 10 games in '22 he averaged 13 touches. Just before his injury it was better but not exactly amazing, with 21 & 22 possessions in his 3 games before injury. In fairness the 21 possession game came with 3 goals so that's a belter, but the rest of the season was just so-so, as evidenced by the average of 14 in 9 games if the injured game is removed.

I guess it depends if you're going on numbers alone, and what your expectations are of someone playing at half forward.

I'd say 14 touches and a goal per game as a half forward are very good numbers for a 20 year old playing an unfamiliar position.

What exactly were you expecting?

 

[Coops93]

I guess it depends if you're going on numbers alone, and what your expectations are of someone playing at half forward.

I'd say 14 touches and a goal per game as a half forward are very good numbers for a 20 year old playing an unfamiliar position.

What exactly were you expecting?

The numbers aren't the only reason, the fumbles by VFL watchers were still referenced as an issue at the time.

Numbers wise, they're fine. Not pushing for AFL call up quality or anything to get excited about, though. They're just ok.

 

[Jeremias]

The numbers aren't the only reason, the fumbles by VFL watchers were still referenced as an issue at the time.

Yes the fumbles are something that needs to be worked through. Interestingly the reports coming out of that level were very strong despite them.

Numbers wise, they're fine. Not pushing for AFL call up quality or anything to get excited about, though. They're just ok.

Not sure that's true at all. He has been pushing for senior selection pretty much every time he has been fit.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Philp has played 2 AFL and 12 VFL games in 4 seasons. I don't think anybody can confidently say he's not up to it.

 

[bluesDeluxe]

The numbers aren't the only reason, the fumbles by VFL watchers were still referenced as an issue at the time.

Numbers wise, they're fine. Not pushing for AFL call up quality or anything to get excited about, though. They're just ok.

His 1 handed pick up late in the last quarter v bombers in 2020 still sticks in the mind..

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Highlights | Philp in full flight

Watch some of Sam Philp's best highlights in Blue.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Even richo liked it

 

[The Bighouse]

Highlights | Philp in full flight

Watch some of Sam Philp's best highlights in Blue.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Even richo liked it

Pretty sure when Vossy 1st arrived, Philpy was mentioned as a class favourite - was also looking good for a HFF/wing position during that pre-season.

 

[myblueroan]

Pretty sure when Vossy 1st arrived, Philpy was mentioned as a class favourite - was also looking good for a HFF/wing position during that pre-season.

So that's the mysterious Philp huh? Looks good! Can we lend him a vowel do you think? Just to round him out a bit.

 

[Jeremias]

Philp has played 2 AFL and 12 VFL games in 4 seasons. I don't think anybody can confidently say he's not up to it.

Exactly right. I was getting there in a roundabout way.

People can claim we talk up players who haven’t featured in a while, but the opposite is also true.

Some will talk down a player because they haven’t been available in a long while, and forget what they added when they were.

We haven’t seen enough of Philp to say definitively which way his career goes.

Given the cost and our list as it stands, I fail to see a downside in giving him another year.

 

[agro]

Highlights | Philp in full flight

Watch some of Sam Philp's best highlights in Blue.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Even richo liked it

Brayshaw liked Cuningham in that opening passage of play as well.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Brayshaw liked Cuningham in that opening passage of play as well.

Everybody was Cuningham a couple of years back.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

So that's the mysterious Philp huh? Looks good! Can we lend him a vowel do you think? Just to round him out a bit.

Tom Barrass likes this comment. Cuningham still undecided....

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

This is why we took him, and why we should persevere i mo...

Draft Combine results: Speedy mid boosts stocks with scorching time

Sam Philp has boosted his stocks by claiming top honours in the speed test at the NAB AFL Draft Combine

www.afl.com.au

Sam Philp Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Philp is an inside bull whose stocks have risen steeply on the back of irresistible form and an athletic base which saw him earn a National Combine invite.”

central.rookieme.com

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Exactly right. I was getting there in a roundabout way.

People can claim we talk up players who haven’t featured in a while, but the opposite is also true.

Some will talk down a player because they haven’t been available in a long while, and forget what they added when they were.

We haven’t seen enough of Philp to say definitively which way his career goes.

Given the cost and our list as it stands, I fail to see a downside in giving him another year.

As I’ve noted previously if his body holds up very much still want him on the list - has lots of what we don’t have. Delist and rookie for me

 

[ferrisb]

If Carlton wanted a footballer who was fumbly and easily injured, they could have drafted me!!!

 

[marcmurphy3]

I can't believe people are advocating keeping Philp. With all the uproar of keeping perenially injured players he should be the first to go. Constantly injured and showed nothing at afl level. Most fumbley player I have ever seen.

Completely different situation to keeping Cunningham and Marchbank who have showed much more (including at the same age).

If we think he has been hard done by sign him to our vfl list and work with him from there.

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

If Carlton wanted a footballer who was fumbly and easily injured, they could have drafted me!!!

I'm with ya - can't get passed my knees to pick up a ground ball & blew both calves taking the bins out BUT in my defence my driveway is a 15 degree gradient sooo....reckon I'm good for about pick 97 in the draft

 

[sparkybagger]

Just learned this morning that McGovern trains at my rehab facility (along with Doc and Fog) which started this past offseason. That might explain his improved robustness. Lord knows if they've fixed my old broken rig they can do a lot with an actual athlete...

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Sam Philp

34

Sam Philp

Age

23

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.5

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

4star

G

0.5

3star

Hip, groin and foot stress fractures injuries have basically impacted on his career since he’s been drafted…

 

[ferrisb]

reckon I'm good for about pick 97 in the draft

That's 38 picks higher than what we spent on Rhys Palmer...




... Yep, sounds about right.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Sam Philp
Hip, groin and foot stress fractures injuries have basically impacted on his career since he’s been drafted…

goes without saying that he's a delist if the Club isn't confident they can get him right!