Bluemour Melting Pot XXIII

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Bluemour Melting Pot XXII

Does it worry anyone else that the guys who are in the high priced free agency wars seem to have pretty crap years after their mega-deal is done? Coniglio and Grundy haven't exactly set the world alight this year. Kelly hasn't seemed to become the next amazing midfielder that everyone thought...

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Bluemour Melting Pot XXVII

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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Just like to thank Aphrodite and the other Carlton mods who started the Bluemours NON Discussion Thread and who have kept it free of chat over the past few years.

It helps so much when you just don't have the time to read through this thread, cheers and great job.

 

[Benaly28]

We missed a lot.

Dylan Shields, Josh Kelly, Stephen Cognilio and Gaff?

Shiels-No great loss
Kelly-Perhaps
Coniglio-Jury’s out
Gaff-Perhaps



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[Benaly28]

So if we knew that the Bendigo pioneers program was not the best then may I ask WHY we drafted him in the first place considering the position we were in back then.

There were others I’m sure we could’ve taken.


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[Brackets]

People writing Dow off way too early.

By the time he makes his way to sign the transfer papers, timing will probably be about right though.

 

[FairKouta]

Be crazy to trade dow now

 

[Gointocarlton]

Be crazy to trade dow now

Agree

 

[KnobHead]

So if we knew that the Bendigo pioneers program was not the best then may I ask WHY we drafted him in the first place considering the position we were in back then.

There were others I’m sure we could’ve taken.


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Because he’s got more upside than the others “we could’ve taken.”

It‘s a simple scenario - you’ve got 2 players, one has superior talent but in an inferior training program, the other has inferior talent coming from a superior program.

The one you pick will be placed in the best training program.

Not sure why you’d pick the lessor talent.

Worth remembering that Paddy Dow is still only 20.



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[Benaly28]

Because he’s got more upside than the others “we could’ve taken.”

It‘s a simple scenario - you’ve got 2 players, one has superior talent but in an inferior training program, the other has inferior talent coming from a superior program.

The one you pick will be placed in the best training program.

Not sure why you’d pick the lessor talent.

Worth remembering that Paddy Dow is still only 20.



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Hope your right but right now don’t see it.Hope he proves me wrong.


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[Foucault1989]

Because he’s got more upside than the others “we could’ve taken.”

It‘s a simple scenario - you’ve got 2 players, one has superior talent but in an inferior training program, the other has inferior talent coming from a superior program.

The one you pick will be placed in the best training program.

Not sure why you’d pick the lessor talent.

Worth remembering that Paddy Dow is still only 20.



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Great points. Dow is still pretty raw. I'll reserve my judgement until he is 23-25.

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

St

Which of the 4 Goals Eddie has kicked in the last 8 games has made people think that he has another year in the tank?

Still a better option than fisher, Martin, and anyone else. Maybe time to give Owies a go

 

[blue healer]

Teague strikes me as someone who is stubborn. When things on the field go pear shaped never seems to make any moves.
Wanted Betts even though our list manager at the time was against it.
Plays players out of position to teach them a lesson.
Why not play to our strengths.
SPS looks shot and devoid of any confidence and now looks like he does not give a rats.
Fisher should be on a wing permanently with his pace ball use and the ability to create space.
I hope Mcreadie and O’Brien get games to finish off the year.


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You should be coach.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Can't believe people still think that Betts is contributing to a level that he should remain in the side and or go round another year

Agree, offering pressure and nostalgia, nothing more. It’s not like there is a shortage of crumbs or forward 50 entries to hawk from.

 

[JustaBattler]

So we keep playing the aging players, who are either underperforming, inconsistent, breaking down and when we are ready to take the next step, we have purposely not put game time into our future?

There is absolutely no benefit in playing all of our aging players, which is such a short term view

If any of our kids are a matter of being only slightly behind the output of older players, you play the kid

We are not a top 4 side, hoping to snag a flag

the marketing department might beg to differ mate.

 

[Arr0w]

the marketing department might beg to differ mate.

That only last so long

 

[Metalcrusher]

Axes will fall end of this year

That only last so long

Lasted 5 years so far

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Look at Brisbane's rebuild compared to ours. We have clearly failed and the difference is we haven't used out top 10 picks for a mature midfielder.

Failed?
I think you need to go into more detail please?

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Hope your right but right now don’t see it.Hope he proves me wrong.


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3 weeks ago people were telling me Polson won't get a game this year, is a dud, in fact laughed at me when I mentioned he's piecing it together nicely.

Things can change very very quickly

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

I am glad that also this panic eddie is creating is setting up so many goals for us.

Basically what we're saying is that eddie will win the junior footy coaches award.

Tries really hard, and runs a lot , but rarely touches the ball.

If you are suggesting that Betts is no good or past it then...Are you serious? Sh$test comment ever. He has kicked 13 goals is one off being our highest goal kicker. If I have misread this then sorry...:

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

So apparently mismanaging Dow and playing him in the wrong position (midfield)?

What’s he’s RIGHT position I’d like to know.


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Centre half bench

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

Agree, offering pressure and nostalgia, nothing more. It’s not like there is a shortage of crumbs or forward 50 entries to hawk from.

So one goal off being our leading goal kicker isn't good enough? Wtf

 

[thylacine60]

is there a sport that people can be directed to where ridicule and abuse of the contestants is not a requirement in order to be considered a team supporter?

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

is there a sport that people can be directed to where ridicule and abuse of the contestants is not a requirement in order to be considered a team supporter?

 

[BlueZombie]

What makes you think that?

Just my opinion amigo. I think he chases and tackles bloody hard and gives his all, and despite being in his 30's still looks dangerous anytime he's near the pill. Love the little master.

 

[BigBreakfast]

So one goal off being our leading goal kicker isn't good enough? Wtf

Not exactly an impressive measuring stick. A bit like last year, his 2 GC bags of six, padded his total. He is at the end of a glorious career which needs to be celebrated. Bit like, Cripps, he seems to be trying to hard to be the heroic leader of the forward line and pull off the extraordinary.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Which of the 4 Goals Eddie has kicked in the last 8 games has made people think that he has another year in the tank?

Pressure, probably sould’ove kicked, his pressure and anticipation is something no one else any of any of our other youngsters could ever produce..

 

[HereComesJuddy]

If you are suggesting that Betts is no good or past it then...Are you serious? Sh$test comment ever. He has kicked 13 goals is one off being our highest goal kicker. If I have misread this then sorry...:

Definitely not a bad comment. When you continually drop easy mark, the end is usually near. He does put pressure on but when the fundamentals start to fail, you can't take it.

Eddie is a God imo. But let's not kid ourselves. If it was another player of ours dropping as many as he has lately, it would be lamb's to the slaughter on this board. He could easily come out and kick 4 this Tuesday, but there's no denying that the writing is on the wall no matter how we want to sugar coat it.