Bluemour Melting Pot XXIX

[RoyalBlues]

Clarko to sit out next year.

Source: former premiership player.

While I think it’s more unlikely than likely that Clarkson will coach Carlton, there were premiership players who were adamant he would honour the handover deal at be at Hawthorn in 2022.

Anything is still possible regarding Clarko and Carlton.

 

[forever blue 1]

My preference would be
1- Scott
2-Buckley
3- clarko


Scott and Buckley because they are young and hungry for success. Excellent leaders and have a proven record of getting the best out the team. Buckley took a premiership side, stripped it, made it the way he wanted, got the players to buy in and took them to finals and grand final.

Clarko well obviously he is the best coach over the last 20 years. I do get massive mick Malthouse vibes but could he take another side to the promised land and become the greatest ever?

I’m saying that, Scott and Buckley my preference by a long shot

I too was thinking, I wonder what Buckley would do?
Would he be interested? I wonder who he pissed off?

 

[juzz88]

In regards to Ross' past transgressions, if he sincerely apologises, and has changed his behaviour, does he deserve a second chance?

I'm all for Calrton Respects, but surely part of that is changing the behaviour of people that have done the wrong thing, not turning them away and just hoping that you never have to deal with them?

Happy to be corrected if I'm oversimplifying the issue, I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's just that I've seen this comment made numerous times, and I'm eager to hear people's thoughts on it, because I'm probably missing something.

 

[The Bighouse]

I too was thinking, I wonder what Buckley would do?
Would he be interested? I wonder who he pissed off?

In the midst of a presidential/board power play, if they didn’t see it, and neither did Nathan, then call it and go another route, which they did.

Could be lining up with Foxtel if he doesn’t return to clubland but you’d think head coach or media (and other interests) for Bucks.

 

[KohPhi]

My preference would be
1- Scott
2-Buckley
3- clarko


Scott and Buckley because they are young and hungry for success. Excellent leaders and have a proven record of getting the best out the team. Buckley took a premiership side, stripped it, made it the way he wanted, got the players to buy in and took them to finals and grand final.

Clarko well obviously he is the best coach over the last 20 years. I do get massive mick Malthouse vibes but could he take another side to the promised land and become the greatest ever?

I’m saying that, Scott and Buckley my preference by a long shot

Scott would be solid, but I'd snap Buckley up in a heartbeat. Young, passionate, driven, and has grown into a good leader of people.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Scott would be solid, but I'd snap Buckley up in a heartbeat. Young, passionate, driven, and has grown into a good leader of people.

My guess is you're in the minority. He was one of those responsible for the treatment of lumumba and apparently laughed him out of his office when lumumba expressed concerns. For times over the last decade I've looked at their midfield like it's possibly the best ever but it never got to even 'best for that particular season'. I think he leaves a lot to be desired as a coach and definitely as a person. He's an anti vaccer loony

 

[Arr0w]

My preference would be
1- Scott
2-Buckley
3- clarko


Scott and Buckley because they are young and hungry for success. Excellent leaders and have a proven record of getting the best out the team. Buckley took a premiership side, stripped it, made it the way he wanted, got the players to buy in and took them to finals and grand final.

Clarko well obviously he is the best coach over the last 20 years. I do get massive mick Malthouse vibes but could he take another side to the promised land and become the greatest ever?

I’m saying that, Scott and Buckley my preference by a long shot

Scott is also my number 1 preference if we make a change

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

We had to let our assistant know by Aug 1 if they were to be retained. Anyone have any info on this?

wouldn’t be suprised if all but Power are replaced

Do we really let our coaching staff know if they have a job for next year while the season is still going?

 

[KohPhi]

My guess is you're in the minority. He was one of those responsible for the treatment of lumumba and apparently laughed him out of his office when lumumba expressed concerns. For times over the last decade I've looked at their midfield like it's possibly the best ever but it never got to even 'best for that particular season'. I think he leaves a lot to be desired as a coach and definitely as a person. He's an anti vaccer loony

I think if we drill down, we can pick instances, faults in every coach.. Clarkson, Lyon, Pyke, Scott.. they've all had some misgivings in the past..
I agree im in the minority, and I'm certain he probably won't be considered.

 

[The Bighouse]

My guess is you're in the minority. He was one of those responsible for the treatment of lumumba and apparently laughed him out of his office when lumumba expressed concerns. For times over the last decade I've looked at their midfield like it's possibly the best ever but it never got to even 'best for that particular season'. I think he leaves a lot to be desired as a coach and definitely as a person. He's an anti vaccer loony

I don’t believe he has anything against vacuumers. Clean and be happy.

He may well have been, but think his personal growth has been evident looking in, and change in thinking/actions (shouldn’t be lugged with the salary cap fiasco departures).

 

[Zlatan]

While I think it’s more unlikely than likely that Clarkson will coach Carlton, there were premiership players who were adamant he would honour the handover deal at be at Hawthorn in 2022.

Anything is still possible regarding Clarko and Carlton.

So Caro went with the story re: Clarko, got belted for it, but ultimately got proven right.

According to her, if Clarkson does coach in 2022, it will be at Carlton and no where else.

If Clarko’s management is leaking to Caro, wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume this info is on the money as well?

 

[cookie monster]

On the rumours of Liddle trying to protect Brad Lloyd....

We know that Lloyd and Liddle are mates back from football playing days.

Thinking back to the famed Stephen Silvagni interview on Footy Classified, do we think the "there's lots of conflicts in football" comment directed to Matthew Lloyd, could actually be in reference to Brad getting gifted the football boss job at Carlton without the usual credentials?

I always thought it was a peculiar comment to make at the time to somebody who's only conflict there is that he's from a football family.

Would also explain the escalation in tension coinciding with Lloyds arrival at the club too

 

[smashbox gill]

Do we really let our coaching staff know if they have a job for next year while the season is still going?

Pretty sure that’s AFL rules

 

[cookie monster]

And if Liddle has gifted his underqualified mate Lloyd such an important job, and leading to such disastrous results on field, then he must be shown the door too. No ifs no buts. Leave

 

[KnobHead]

Do we really let our coaching staff know if they have a job for next year while the season is still going?

Think the early date is there so if you don’t have a job, you know you’ve got to look for another club and clubs want their coaches “ready to go” for preseason in October or November.


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[swuzzlebubble]

What about Brad Scott as Lloyd replacement? He doesn't seem as desperate to be senior coach as some others.

 

[bmaurizio]

Sayers won’t tolerate incompetence and unprofessionalism.
Changes will happen, the process will begin political correctness , proper procedures have to be adhered to.
We all want to see swift action, it will come, and be effective, many other obstacles have been cleared, ( historical debits, PP ground facilities & general condition)

 

[Manhattanite]

In regards to Ross' past transgressions, if he sincerely apologises, and has changed his behaviour, does he deserve a second chance?

I'm all for Calrton Respects, but surely part of that is changing the behaviour of people that have done the wrong thing, not turning them away and just hoping that you never have to deal with them?

Happy to be corrected if I'm oversimplifying the issue, I'm not trying to offend anyone. It's just that I've seen this comment made numerous times, and I'm eager to hear people's thoughts on it, because I'm probably missing something.

I don’t know anything about the Ross incident but it appears very different to say New York Governor Cuomo who created a culture of sexual harassment and has over a dozen women coming forward or President Biden who had a staff member accusing him of sexual assault and another dozen women accusing him of inappropriate touching.

If Ross Lyon has learnt from his mistakes snd hasn’t repeated them since then he should be considered for the head coach role or any other role. But if our Board or an independent appointee concludes he hasn’t then we can pass.





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[El Topo]

Why Scott?

Was never rated while at North. All of a sudden he's become a good coach with time off?

the Ratten effect

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Why Scott?

Was never rated while at North. All of a sudden he's become a good coach with time off?

People are impressed with where he was able to take North given their list.

otoh, there are others (mainly North supporters) who thought his style was directionless and awful to watch... which is pretty much what we see already with Teague...

 

[gab213]

I too was thinking, I wonder what Buckley would do?
Would he be interested? I wonder who he pissed off?

In all the coaching talk GWS and Cameron fly under the radar, I have thought for some time that Buckley could be their next coach whether he takes a year off next year or not and I still think Clarkson will take a year off and be at GC in 23.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

The jordan Boyd recruitment has to be questioned. By no means a good VFL player let alone AFL. Nepotism at play?

Very much doubt if it was a case of nepotism, but no doubt Austin would have followed his progress closely when he was at the Dogs as well as his VFL form this year.

The issue I have is that I have no idea what we recruited. He's been a mid/forward who was thrown into defence the start of the year. AFL Draft Central describe him as a "22-year-old (who) has mostly been pegged as a forward, but could be the small defender or wingman Carlton is in desperate need of to fill out its starting 18."

Jordan Boyd Archives

afl.draftcentral.com.au

His recruitment was a bit of a head scratcher on the nite, especially when we're desperate for KPP's, and players like Schlensog were still available.

 

[footyfan1978]

What about Brad Scott as Lloyd replacement? He doesn't seem as desperate to be senior coach as some others.

That would be ok, but the issue is the people deciding on the football manager need replacing themselves so it is all very scary time as a supporter. I will never forget how horrible it was when the guy that head of our club disaster at turn of century appointed our next coach Pagan just before he was removed himself. So we dealt with his choice of new coach for the next few years and the culture totally dismantled in the football department. Right now I have no confidence in any people making the appointments. So it is horrible position to be in overall.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

the people deciding on the football manger need replacing themselves

The CEO or board?

 

[gab213]

If you removed every board and every CEO that ever made a bad appointment there'd be none left in their positions anywhere. Stronger organisations are able to correct those things and move on without so much fuss. Rather than get rid of absolutely everyone, identify the issue and fix it. Hopefully, that is the stage that we are in right now.