Bluemour Melting Pot XXV

[Aphrodite]

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Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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[ferrisb]

Also hopefully Cameron going to the Cats lessens their desire to go hard for Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

.

When Cameron retires in ~6 years, Charlie will be almost 30...

So still not old enough for Geelong

 

[Eiffel 65]

I would argue this years draft being compromised is exactly the reason not to worry too much about holding pick 7.

It becomes a lot more compromised as you start to get towards the mid-late end of the first round.

There's really only one, maybe two bids expected in the top 10 prospects, so #7 selection isn't compromised too much.

If we find another player of similar quality to Saad then we should trade it. If not, stay high in the draft and get it done with 2 x second rounders.

 

[The Greek Freak]

Do you think GWS could match both Cameron and Williams? Not sure they have the $ for that.

No, I'd be almost certain they match Cameron offer but not ours.

 

[thylacine60]

How good was Walshy's interview last night after MOTY?

Made my heart swell; so humble and such a professional.

So glad he's wrapped in navy blue

My sister messaged me the same thing and she's extreme Richmond!

 

[Wickzki]

Our ITKs posted numerous times before Ben was drafted that his natural talent was greater than Jack's. However, it was always reiterated that he lacked the want that is Jack's trademark.

Everyone has talent when you get to this level. But if you don't want it... there's nobody who can transform that talent into an AFL player.

That Ben didn't make it was never going to be a major shock based on those comments. And here we are.

 

[agro]

I can't see it happening tbh

If we’re getting Oliver or Wines - we’re going to have to work some magic with 5 loaves and 2 fishes then.

 

[RoyalParade]

No, I'd be almost certain they match Cameron offer but not ours.

GWS came out straight away declaring they would match Cameron.

Not a peep re williams.

No way they match Williams

Cameron they need to take a stand on.

 

[Eiffel 65]

GWS came out straight away declaring they would match Cameron.

Not a peep re williams.

No way they match Williams

Cameron they need to take a stand on.

They won't match Williams because they'll get pick 8 as a compensation pick.

The reality is that's all he's worth on the trade table anyway.

As we hold pick 7, GWS don't really have anything to gain by matching the bid.

Cameron would be worth 2 x first rounders. They may want pick 11 + something as a starting point. The fact that Geelong have 3 x first rounders this year means they're likely to get more via trade than what they would get as a standalone compensation pick.

I think we should try and get involved in this trade.

Pick 7 for 19 and Parfitt or Clark. Then on-trade 19 for Saad.

 

[Gavstar]

Yes they could, easily now. But they won't.

I thought they had to offload at least $1.5-2M next year, Cameron was offered 750k so they still need to ditch another $750 and make an offer to Preuss

 

[Mezzoculo]

Like Dangerfield he will be going to the Cats for well below market rate.

They will get pick 10 or ask 13 and 16 from the Cats.

System isn't working if a team in the GF has room in their Cap to fit a A grade player. It will be interesting to see what they have to clear out to fit him in. Cockatoo is probably on overs based potential. and Ablett would be on Ok money

This might’ve already been mentioned but if Geelong's offer is low enough, GWS should go full Dodo with Cameron. Force a trade for overs or send him through the draft. There is no downside for them.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

If we’re getting Oliver or Wines - we’re going to have to work some magic with 5 loaves and 2 fishes then.

I'd say neither will be in blue in 2021

 

[juzz88]

People whinging about free agency are forgetting that the key word is "free". As in, the players have freedom to decide where they play.

If players are willing to take LESS money to have success, good on them. Isn't that what every club and fan wants?

It's up to the other clubs to try and create a culture like Geelong's, rather than going after mercenaries who will play for the highest bidder.

Keep in mind, nothing lasts forever. How many players do you see falling over themselves to go to Hawthorn now?

Patience, my friends. Patience.

 

[reg_lower91]

GWS came out straight away declaring they would match Cameron.

Not a peep re williams.

No way they match Williams

Cameron they need to take a stand on.

This. It’s also worth noting the good-faith between our two clubs due to previous dealings. Some may not think this holds much weight but it really does.

 

[SurreyBlue]

And blamed his departure on Little's relationship with his father.

Where or when did he do that?

 

[agro]

I'd say neither will be in blue in 2021

Agro Jr, is of that opinion too - but he has been known to be wrong.

 

[esoteric]

Uncharted territory here. What happens if GWS match, which they need to do before the end of the free agency period, and then a third club tables a higher offer again?

 

[Arr0w]

How about McGovern?

NO

 

[Arr0w]

You make it hard when you bring them up yourself and tell other people not to. I think any and all of those names could make a fist of it in a pinch, which is what we'd need in the short term. Some better than others, and dependent on the opposition, but to varying degress they provide depth.

Marchbank is the same height as Grimes. The game is changing, and not every KPD needs to be 195cm and 95kg.

NO

 

[DirkDiggler]

NO

Didn’t say which

 

[Mezzoculo]

People whinging about free agency are forgetting that the key word is "free". As in, the players have freedom to decide where they play.

If players are willing to take LESS money to have success, good on them. Isn't that what every club and fan wants?

It's up to the other clubs to try and create a culture like Geelong's, rather than going after mercenaries who will play for the highest bidder.

Keep in mind, nothing lasts forever. How many players do you see falling over themselves to go to Hawthorn now?

Patience, my friends. Patience.

Sure. But restricted free agency means that a player can't leave for less without the blessing of the club they're leaving. Not sure GWS are feeling very beatific....

 

[Arr0w]

Didn’t say which

No

 

[Jeremias]

Uncharted territory here. What happens if GWS match, which they need to do before the end of the free agency period, and then a third club tables a higher offer again?

It wouldn't get that far as Cameron wouldn't reach an agreement with more than one club.

 

[HBF]

Sorry, meant it as in "they decide to match Williams now they don't have Cameron's salary to worry about".

They'd still be alot over the salary cap. They won't match.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Want surprise me of crouch is I blue next year and we put twelve months more into Kelly or merret

 

[HBF]

Moore and Polson are still on our list.

Thats true.