Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

[The Old Dark Navy's]

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/

Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their rumour files.

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As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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[jj1978]

Why not just go to the Dogs, swap their 14 for our 2nd rounder (29) and future second rounder, depending how we finish next year it's either a break even for the Dogs or a slight benefit.

 

[Treesloth]

Would people accept 8 for Saad + future 2nd?

I’d rather picks in next years draft which from all reports will be stacked. That pick will likely be anywhere from picks 19-22 imo

Still think the best approach is to trade further back in the first round ASAP. Put it back on Essendon to accept a mid to late first round for him.

Getting Saad through the door and another (albeit later) first round pick and being able to put 12 months development into said pick is better than stockpiling an extra second round pick next year IMO

 

[Aphrodite]

Damn, that's some f’ed up culture at the Pies. Gotta feel sorry for Treloar.

 

[camcanchris]

You'd think so but if ESS are offering 7 for the same deal we offer 8 it's hard for them to proceed.

Why? I could understand if they are getting the pick themselves, but they'll be giving it away for Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

. So, pick 7 or 8 has the same value for Geelong.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Damn, that's some f’ed up culture at the Pies. Gotta feel sorry for Treloar.

Poor Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

. Never been a fan of him as a player, but **** he must be feeling so low righr now, can't help but worry about his mental/emotional state, especially given his battles with Anxiety (a horrible condition I know all too well )

The day we start treating our players like this is hopefully a day I will never see..

Shame on you Collingwood

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Despite everything?

 

[myblueroan]

After this can we never ever deal with these dirty rotten scoundrels again?


Except for Z. Merrett. (Sigh.)

 

[Metalcrusher]

Despite everything?

They just cant sack him. So they have to make him feel unwanted .... horrible, horrible tactics.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Why would it matter if Essendon trump us and trade their pick with Geelong for two firsts? We just ask for one of those pick as the 'steak knives' for pick 8.
It works out as the same deal as if we had split the pick ourselves.

Correct. Plenty of options. Just need someone to stand tall to Dodo & *.

 

[Jabba73]

Let me give you the tip.....If we somehow miss Saad, and he ends up in the draft or stuck at Essendon after he has publicly come out, backed us, and said I want Carlton, then good luck getting anyone to nominate us going forward.

2 years in a row of humiliating players

Nope.

Suns humiliated themselves by refusing to entertain a trade with the publicly expressed wish to send a message to the rest of their playing group. Given they had lost both captains the previous season, there is some sympathy for them wanting to do anything to stem the bleeding, time will tell if the sacrifice was worth it.

No one in the AFL would believe Saad is worth pick 8, let alone that plus extras ... except * who are also trying to stop bleeding players. If * won’t be reasonable, and they have a long history of being objectionable, then it won’t be hard to make it public what they requested.

If Saad and his management are smart they won’t want his new club bankrupting their chances of success to satisfy unreasonable demands from his current club who have publicly declared him a troublemaker. They will work with us to ensure either * make a reasonable offer or he tries to get to us another way.

Not sure how two desperate clubs being publicly unreasonable reflects on us at all. Particularly as we have managed to get plenty of other deals done in the last 5 seasons.

 

[myblueroan]

Poor Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

. Never been a fan of him as a player, but **** he must be feeling so low righr now, can't help but worry about his mental/emotional state, especially given his battles with Anxiety (a horrible condition I know all too well )

The day we start treating our players like this is hopefully a day I will never see..

Shame on you Collingwood

I 'd like us to take him if Pies paid most of his salary.

 

[jj1978]

Damn, that's some f’ed up culture at the Pies. Gotta feel sorry for Treloar.

Love to find out who leaked that!

What's sad the Pies have not made a quote for that past week to at lease quash the Trealor and Stephenson talk which you have to deduce fully indicates their is a semblance of truth to it. Their credibility is shot and if they seriously think they're premiership material they're deluded.

 

[SurreyBlue]

That is ridiculous! What culture are they trying to instil there.

Jesus! Really really feel for Treloar.

I'm actually enjoying all this Collingwood talk. Funny how their president is quite......hopefully this implodes them!

 

[BringBackSimmo]

They just cant sack him. So they have to make him feel unwanted .... horrible, horrible tactics.

But despite trying to make him feel unwanted, he still wants to be there? He is a masochist?

 

[slashin_velvet]

The Daniher compensation was consistent with the contract he has received. This wasn’t a generous move by AFL house, but a generous decision made by Brisbane to find a way they could get Daniher without trading. Big risk taken by them.

Just challenging to reconcile a 3 year deal being "Band 1" and a 5 year deal for Crouch only being "Band 3"

 

[jj1978]

Collingwood are so concerned about Trealor's mental health yet don't consider these leaks would be contributing to him having self doubt and worth and triggering him into a potential downhill spiral again. W@nk3r5!

 

[myblueroan]

Nope.

Suns humiliated themselves by refusing to entertain a trade with the publicly expressed wish to send a message to the rest of their playing group. Given they had lost both captains the previous season, there is some sympathy for them wanting to do anything to stem the bleeding, time will tell if the sacrifice was worth it.

No one in the AFL would believe Saad is worth pick 8, let alone that plus extras ... except * who are also trying to stop bleeding players. If * won’t be reasonable, and they have a long history of being objectionable, then it won’t be hard to make it public what they requested.

If Saad and his management are smart they won’t want his new club bankrupting their chances of success to satisfy unreasonable demands from his current club who have publicly declared him a troublemaker. They will work with us to ensure either * make a reasonable offer or he tries to get to us another way.

Not sure how two desperate clubs being publicly unreasonable reflects on us at all. Particularly as we have managed to get plenty of other deals done in the last 5 seasons.

Yep. Let's not be overly dramatic.
Saad knows we want him. Plus it was his manager who said they are prepared to walk if no deal can be struck.

 

[La Dispute]

Huge test for Austin coming up.

Need to play it smart, and not give unreasonable value. Only way we give up Pick 8 is if Essendon can also supply us with a late 1st this year.

Interesting times ahead.

 

[Thrall]

Nope.

Suns humiliated themselves by refusing to entertain a trade with the publicly expressed wish to send a message to the rest of their playing group. Given they had lost both captains the previous season, there is some sympathy for them wanting to do anything to stem the bleeding, time will tell if the sacrifice was worth it.

No one in the AFL would believe Saad is worth pick 8, let alone that plus extras ... except * who are also trying to stop bleeding players. If * won’t be reasonable, and they have a long history of being objectionable, then it won’t be hard to make it public what they requested.

If Saad and his management are smart they won’t want his new club bankrupting their chances of success to satisfy unreasonable demands from his current club who have publicly declared him a troublemaker. They will work with us to ensure either * make a reasonable offer or he tries to get to us another way.

Not sure how two desperate clubs being publicly unreasonable reflects on us at all. Particularly as we have managed to get plenty of other deals done in the last 5 seasons.

papley

 

[Metalcrusher]

But despite trying to make him feel unwanted, he still wants to be there? He is a masochist?

Holding them to his long lucrative contract I would think, he wont get the same $$$ anywhere else now.

 

[myblueroan]

By jingoes we have a lot of experts on this forum don't we?
Such fun!

 

[Forty3]

Why not just go to the Dogs, swap their 14 for our 2nd rounder (29) and future second rounder, depending how we finish next year it's either a break even for the Dogs or a slight benefit.

For the same reason the Martin deal fell over last year. Many on here put far to much thought into the points structure. There is no benefit for the dogs to gain a future second and lose points this year. A separate deal could be struck with the dogs for pick 14, but would rely on us giving two second rounders this year, so they are up on points.
Unless you have the academy/father sons to take, the point system is irrelevant.

 

[BringBackSimmo]

Holding them to his long lucrative contract I would think, he wont get the same $$$ anywhere else now.

But is it worth it in long run, if they are treating him like they are? (I guess in fairness, we don't know how accurate what is being said is anyway)

 

[Stickitupthem]

Absolutely love it get legal representation
Tell them to stop bullying him or their could be a failure to provide a safe work environment could cost them millions

 

[jj1978]

For the same reason the Martin deal fell over last year. Many on here put far to much thought into the points structure. There is no benefit for the dogs to gain a future second and lose points this year. A separate deal could be struck with the dogs for pick 14, but would rely on us giving two second rounders this year, so they are up on points.
Unless you have the academy/father sons to take, the point system is irrelevant.

Dogs want to trade that 14 as they're planning on bids for their academy player ranked #1. For them to get some points to use this year on him and have a decent round 2 pick in next years better draft is a win win for them.