Bluemour Melting Pot XXVI

[The Old Dark Navy's]

As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/

Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their rumour files.

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As per the Bluemour File OP, this is a thread for discussing Carlton related rumours. http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/bluemour-file.1085141/ Rumour posters should post their rumours in both threads for those that like just to read rumours and for those that like to have get lost in their...

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[HARKER]

I get the context of your post, but Saad ran 3rd in the B&F. One spot and just behind the much vaunted Zac Merrett.

Essendon didn't have a great year in the whole, but yes....just pointing out that there may have been other matters that affected any stats put forward.

He's still the right player for us and we may have chose to acquire a better credentialed player elsewhere, but that alone wouldn't have made him the better fit for the whole/hole....

 

[Brutalitops]

Peeled or unpeeled?

Wouldnt even care if they were washed.

 

[Kramer1]

We need to field a reserves side, Cas if not in the seniors will be the only power forward. Perhaps they are looking at it from this angle and if he comes good happy days.

Why not Mason Wood

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Mason Wood

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86kg

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13.2

3star

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7.8

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5.4

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4.0

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0.3

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8.3

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15.8

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then? Shown more and not a head knock away from a lawsuit...

 

[bigm386]

There has been a lot of work done by Carlton, Saad and his management team to talk sense into the Saad deal. They’ve talked it down from 8 + (one of our under 22 year old first rounders) to working around us getting some change from Pick 8.
It’s at a tricky impasse at the moment. Daniher getting band 1 compo means any offer we make to split our pick 8 with Geelong or Brisbane can now be trumped by Essendon. The club is acutely aware of how negotiations went with Papley and Martin last year, and there is growing sentiment that when you convince a player to come, you need to make sure it happens smoothly, otherwise there are fears players and managers won’t want to work with us in the future.
As it stands the deal will have pick 8 going to the bombers with change yet to be agreed upon.

Don't see how this makes sense when Saad and his team have come out saying they will go to the PSD.

If pick 8 goes to Essendope I expect Austin to resign on the spot.

The issue again as it was with Martin is the AFL gifting picks and therefore devaluing picks to clubs. Happened last year with Foldcoast and now with Essendope.

 

[Blue and Blue]

I imagine its the supercoach phenomenon that has turned so many BigFootyers into experts that know more than the experts.

 

[Magruder]

Surely McCartin interest is McGovern to *

Would be ok with this...

 

[Pinnell]

I get the context of your post, but Saad ran 3rd in the B&F. One spot and just behind the much vaunted Zac Merrett.

David Teague

David Teague

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won a B&F. I doubt anyone would have given up a 3rd rounder for him

 

[Michael Jezz]

no. But if we walked saad to the psd and someone else picked him up beforeus then it might create problems in the future.

10% chance of happening

 

[TerryWallet]

So like Plow but a year older. Gotcha.

What did Plow cost again? A portion of pick 28 was it?

Plow cost a portion of Pick 28........plus about half a Million of salary dump money. Good business for where we were, but lets not pretend we got him for a portion of Pick 28.

Plus Plow has had 1 top 6 B&F year whereas Saad has been Top 4 three in a row.

 

[bluerooster]

Bluemour post has bee deleted, probably a troll.

Is that me you’re talking about being a troll? Sorry I’m not sure?

 

[BringBackSimmo]

If this Saad trade has taught me anything then pick 2 + Ben McKay

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77.2

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7.5

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4.5

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3.0

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88.5

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3.4

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2.4

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2.0

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MG

67.8

1star

is a reasonable request.

Works for me.

 

[TerryWallet]

David Teague

David Teague

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43

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186cm

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90kg

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9.6

2star

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6.2

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2.4

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5.0

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2.2

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won a B&F. I doubt anyone would have given up a 3rd rounder for him

That's because he couldn't back it up. 1 hit wonder. Plenty of them. Saad is a consistent topliner in his prime.

 

[Kramer1]

Plow cost a portion of Pick 28........plus about half a Million of salary dump money. Good business for where we were, but lets not pretend we got him for a portion of Pick 28.

Plus Plow has had 1 top 6 B&F year whereas Saad has been Top 4 three in a row.

There were four players for pick 28 no? All of which we had some hope for...and he was what 22?

If we are going to use the randomness of B&F results at poor to middling clubs to assign value then we should probably pay closer attention to Supercoach points..

 

[bluerooster]

Another two bobs worth, if Dow or O’Brien turned into a Saad type would they mean they were worth their picks???

 

[BringBackSimmo]

I guess does a Jack Silvagni

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Jack Silvagni

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27

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92kg

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11.0

3star

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7.1

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3.8

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3.8

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2.9

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0.7

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5.3

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K

4.0

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1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

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0.7

4star

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9.2

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K

6.2

3star

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3.0

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M

3.4

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T

2.8

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G

0.8

4star

and a Jesse Hogan

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15.0

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9.3

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5.7

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6.4

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1.4

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G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

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HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

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K

9.0

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4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

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1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

= a Jeremy Cameron

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3.4

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2.6

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10.0

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7.1

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2.9

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4.6

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2.0

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1.9

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8.2

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5.0

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3.2

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4.6

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2.4

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2.0

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?

 

[coryne]

SoS is dirty on CFC. That is evident.
Someone just rang up and suggested Saad & pick 26 for pick 8. SoS replied 'you don't have to give them anything back' and Rendell added give them pick 48 if anything. The smirks on their faces highlighted the media bias evident. Truly feel sad that it has come to this with SoS.

SOS is a big boy, the only one making him act like an ass is himself .....

 

[Ash05]

Paddy McCartin is the worst idea I have ever heard.

Giving up pick 8 for Saad is a worse idea

 

[Brutalitops]

That's because he couldn't back it up. 1 hit wonder. Plenty of them. Saad is a consistent topliner in his prime.

Jimmy Bartel never won a B&F.

 

[mjonc43]

We have a stand-alone VFL team next year, wouldn’t surprise me if the medical is more about having a run with them than the AFL team.

McCartin is a free hit. He adds depth at worst to our forward line.

He can play the game if people have forgotten.


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[BringBackSimmo]

Jimmy Bartel never won a B&F.

He may have won a Brownlow and a Norm Smith though.

 

[Stamos]

He can play the game if people have forgotten.

No, he can't, which is why he is not on a list.

 

[HBF]

Absolute garbage
Martin and Williams have nothing to do with it

Sometimes you have a win getting a player to the club, sometimes you might be seen to pay overs.
Who really cares if you get the player you want unless you have to sell the farm for them (Shiel for example).

 

[Brutalitops]

McCartin is a free hit. He adds depth at worst to our forward line.

He can play the game if people have forgotten.


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Still think youre not giving the sack of potatoes a fair go here...

 

[Blue Pride]

Maybe they want McCartin to replace Jones. His brother certainly took to the move to FB

 

[Stamos]

Isn't he not on a list, more because of medical reasons?

Yeah, that's why he can't play the game.