Bluemour Melting Pot XXVII

[TENACIOUS]

WTF AUSTIN!!!

 

[Gavstar]

Will share my full thoughts after the trade/draft period is over, but a quick summary on Saad deal

Initially values Saad at pick 13, which is clearly overs, but...

Picks 48 and 78 will come in dramatically, which will push the trade value closer to 18

Pick 48 is gone so that only benefits Geelong.

So We'll take 30, 51 and 78 to the draft and have to take someone with 30 and 50?

Jeez

 

[Rustica]

Agree - they are just pathetic. All the heroes on here 'Mate, I would have walked, sack Austin blah blah;.'

Just embarrassing.

Apparently we have better list managers on BigFooty than the entire competition

 

[FairKouta]

People saying we folded, we offered this last week without the late pick swapin our favour, it was not is that folded as we got the trade we originally wanted. DoDo folded as he tried giving us pick 67 or nothing at all

think i will go with this

 

[Blue_Fusion]

People saying we folded, we offered this last week without the late pick swapin our favour, it was not is that folded as we got the trade we originally wanted. DoDo folded as he tried giving us pick 67 or nothing at all

Please spare me...

 

[Michael Jezz]

Folded which is disappointing but that’s the kind of deal you have to expect when you choose to deal with Essendon. We will probably do pick swaps to push up the order a bit this year.

Welcome Adam! He and Williams will be serious weapons off half back.

They are holes in our list and they are ball carriers. We don't have any and we need finals now, however, I'd like to see a harder side to Austin

 

[Premiership Quarter]

Can’t believe we caved. Weak

 

[Arr0w]

fogerty and 38 to carlton - couple of later picks to geelong

Values him at 41

 

[smashbox gill]

Don't understand why we folded with Saad if Fogarty deal didnt even need those picks.

We could have waited for the Fantasia pick or their future 2nd. There was no rush to get it done on our end.

Austin stepped into the big league but crumbled under pressure.

 

[MrJimmy]

 

[WeninRome]

In what universe is Fogarty a gun?

And even so, in what universe does a club let go of a gun for pick 48 in a compromised draft?

Mate settle down. I was talking about Saad and Williams.

 

[Robertio]

There is no defending this trade, Austin should be looking for a new job. We have been saving up cap space for 5 years to use on two half back flankers.

Obvious you're not thinking premierships like the list management.

 

[Tazblue]

Folded from a position of strength if that is indeed the deal.
Disgusted in the club ...

Called club and they were adamant deal isn’t done.?/

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I am very confident/willing to bet that the player picked up with pick 8 (or whatever it becomes) in the draft, will not or never be as good as Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

.

Think people are placing too much stock in Saad's age, if he was 23 or 24, we would be dancing on the ceiling.

Yes I agree we probably blinked/paid slight overs, but I think its important to show other star player managers around the league that we can get deals and trades done for players who want to come play for Carlton

 

[viking12]

bent over with Fog as well

the hell

 

[F_therest]

Thrilled to have Saad and Fogarty done within half an hour of each other.

Is Fogarty done?

 

[thylacine60]

That better be a firm hand. If we succumb to Dodoro's demand, our club will suffer a loss in its reputation. Hopefully we trade pick 8 now to remove any doubt there is a possibility of a deal.

a loss in its reputation? how far down to think we've sunk?

 

[Gavstar]

Pick 48 is gone so that only benefits Geelong.

So We'll take 30, 51 and 78 to the draft and have to take someone with 30 and 50?

Jeez

OK I'm out of date already.

38 coming back is good!

 

[Premiership Quarter]

People saying we folded, we offered this last week without the late pick swapin our favour, it was not is that folded as we got the trade we originally wanted. DoDo folded as he tried giving us pick 67 or nothing at all

Well if we offered this previously it was a crap deal. Just handed our arch enemy a leg up and let them dictate terms to us on an uncontracted player.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Very easy to say that we flinched. When you have a seat at the table its a different kind of pressure and decisions need be within a bees d1ck of being precise.

I'm ok with the decision..need to move on.

Spot on - people forget there are other people on the other side o the table.

We'd also courted Saad and agreed a deal with him. We had to do the trade. North and Hawthorn would have easily taken him in the PSD.


Do you reckon Clarko would care if he hadn't had a medical or didn't want to meet with them.

 

[La Dispute]

Paid overs for Saad, will probably pay unders for Fogarty... Not a bad result, but we blinked on the Saad deal.

Wonder if splitting the picks wasn't an option in the end, with other teams not wanting to give up multiple firsts? Geelong needed them for Cameron, Brisbane probably want to take a couple of firsts to the draft than a singular lower pick, Collingwood will trade out of next years draft at a later stage...

Can only do what other teams will allow you to do in these circumstances.

 

[Bic]

Geez Louise... Some absolute nuff central stuff going on in this thread...

Our best 22 is now a finals team. Get excited you miserable lot.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Worse than Dunkirk.

 

[NavyBlueHeaven]

Maybe we just wanted to do the deal, and move on to other targets.
We can't keep getting tied down by Dodo.

Yep let's assess at end of trade as part of Austin's overall performance

 

[agro]

Takes us out of the draft sweet spot, but time will tell.