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We lost one to Richmond.
Unfortunately I agree with you, after 4 years, you should be looking hard as flint and a big endurance base building. Macreadie still has arms that look like mine and that is not a good thing! Its a long way back from where he is at physically, a step too far I feel. A pity, those first few games ho looked like he had the tools ability wise.
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The arms of Jack Higgins look very similar if not worse. Maybe the reason we turned away.
Poor kid looks old too early. Glad we passed on him, but hope he succeeds.
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I truly hope all those that jumped on board saints early look silly by the end of 2021. I don’t rate their list at all. Half their games were won by paddy Ryder who is borderline retired.
we should walk all over St. kilda in 2021.KP players are too young and midfield is a bunch of C graders. I don’t see the hype around jack Steele. He still has to tag Cripps, Neale, Fyfe to get near the ball. Once he is the hunted he won’t touch it.
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Think we could do worse than look at Oscar McDonald as a depth KPD seeing as he was delisted.
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You have a lack of acumen. Did I do it right?
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4 or 5 is a bit harsh, well a lot harsh. Footy wire has him averaging 1.6 changers per game. Caleb Daniel is seen as an elite ball user and averages 1.7.
Is ver6 reliable is all aspects of the game.
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And, the stat read hit outs to advantage, not just hit outs. That means his team gets the ball.
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Definitely Sam MacLure.
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The problem with Plowman's errors is that they usually happen at the most inopportune time (e.g. we've had a run of play without punishing the opposition, they'll get it down their end, he'll turn it over often times trying to do too much) and subsequently almost always cost us a goal. They hurt.
A great Carlton footballer though and I'll take his errors as he still gives us far more than he gives up.
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He won’t be any worse than Goddard that’s for sure
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No, I was looking at total ruck contests attended. He has 19 over his career or an average of 1.3 a game. He is actually in the elite category for hit-outs to advantage at 40%.
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No not really.
I’m going back to my High High School to have my report card reassessed. 40%, Pretty sure I was Elite at most of my subjects and the D’s I got were a crock of s@$t.
Ripped off.
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Well that's the funny part. Nic Nat and Grundy both go at about 25% of their hit-outs to advantage, Gawn is a bit higher at roughly 35%, and my guy Ben McKay is at a whopping 40%.
also go for Sam DeKoning and make sure he & Tom have matching haircuts....
Somehow.....that wouldn't surprise me.
Can we really rely on Macreadie being the principal KPD back-up?
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yeah but at opposite ends of the ground surely they won’t fight. Maybe sign their mum up as chief mediator?
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I would say that 40% would drop when other ruckmen start to study him and work him out.
As someone who used to be pretty into supercoach a couple of years back, there was always a bit of stat reading to try and predict who would be the players to really jump out next year.
For a while there, Tom hickey was one of them. He played lower TOG than most of the top-tier rucks and sometimes had to share ruck duties (with whoever it was at Saints at that time), but his hitouts to advantage numbers were really good (get points for HOtA, not just HO), and this translated to a good points-per-minute value, so the thought was that if he could just secure that #1 ruck title and play solo he'd be a good chance to rival Goldstein/Gawn/etc (but you'd pay heaps less to get him in your team at the start of the year).
It just never eventuated. Pretty sure he still had a great HOtA:HO ratio, but he couldn't get enough overall to really make a huge difference and he didn't seem to do enough outside the ruck contests to add the extra points required (or be a good ruck on the field).
Now looking back, he's a 4 state journeyman and the concept of him being a top line (supercoach/CD/stat) ruck seems absolutely absurd.
Also worth keeping in mind, those Ben McKay 5 career total hitouts come from 2 games (2 vs Ade this year and 3 vs Bris in 2017) and there's every chance he took them against someone waaaay shorter who was pinch hitting because the main ruck was off, couldn't get there in time, or was parked up the field to try and mark any clearance kick out. 2 hitouts to adv from a sample size of 5 total hitouts is so insignificant it might as well be discarded as an outlier. hugh Greenwood actually sits above him for hitout averages in 2020...
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In fairness, we were daisical for 101 games between 2014 & 2019 - this year when we were finally lackadaisical, we had our highest finish since 2014.
Coincidence?
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Should be looking to trade up for Zach Reid. 202cm, very agile, confident in his hands, reasonable ball use. Probably a move to make on the night depending on where he falls.
Will take a few years of development but I still think Jones has 2-3 of good footy left at minimum, which is why I don’t see Ben entertaining a move.
Will take a few years of development but I still think Jones has 2-3 of good footy left at minimum, which is why I don’t see Ben entertaining a move.
I've said this quite a lot of times, but I question how much someone with poor endurance when drafted can really improve it. Others might know more about this topic, but it doesn't seem like it can be improved to a huge extent and I really want it to be a key trait of our draftees from now on.
In the modern game running power is extremely important...it's one of the key reasons Richmond have won 3 premierships. Watching their games they make plenty of mistakes and hack kicks into F50...but they just keep coming at you and grind teams down with their superior running and eventually you start to see loose Richmond players everywhere...they aren't supremely skilled, but it's easy to look good when you're kicking to players 10m in space or just kicking to a contest and winning more often because you have greater numbers due to superior fitness enabling them to get to more contests.
Having Dow (or anyone unfit) vs someone with elite endurance in certain situations can be the difference between said player being able to break forward into space to set up an easy goal opportunity or being too tired and thus forcing the ball carrier to kick to a contest. And defensively the same...a fit player able to cover his man so the opposition has no outlet and we can force a turnover, or a player letting his man get away from him into space because he can't keep up, and the opposition can go coast-to-coast.
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