Bluemour Melting Pot XXVIII

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Might be interesting with Power stepping up into Barker's role. Will he push for some of the younger players he's worked with all year to be selected in the seniors? Will we see the stoppage setup change? Be it configuration, the strategy, or the personnel?

Going off last week's team, this year we've got potential debuts from Kemp, Carroll, Durdin, Ramsay. Honey almost counts here with the one game (2 because of that time as the sub?). Also players who may return to the side after suspension/injury/demotion with the likes of Plowman, Charlie, McGovern, Fogarty, SPS, O'Brien, Williamson, Parks, Kennedy, Gibbons. Not sure we'll see the two new guys Mirvok and Boyd this year.

There's a lot of names there that could make the team, and I'd be pretty keen to see some of the elder statesmen handing the torch to their successors.

Positional changes too. I'd like to see Stocker play more inside mid, Fish get some wing time along with hhf (and a little resting as small forward), etc.

Hopefully no more moves like let's play Ed on the back flank ahead of actual defenders like Docherty/Williamson/Kemp/Parks/etc. If Ed ain't tagging a mid then don't play him. Don't play inside mids as defensive wingers.

Also don't play underdone/injured/cooked players just because we want to hold a structure. If we play with one less genuine key forward but have a fit and in form alternative that's a bit smaller then that's ok.

It's a nice wish list and for some/most, there are variations, which is also appealing

There will certainly be aspects that will remain the same, but hopefully it will be viewed in a positive way.

For me, I feel that some needed tweaks to the gameplan, will have a positive effect for other areas, such as player output and development

Just on Boyd, I sense he will get a look in sooner than we think. We are poor for ground balls, speed and disposal by foot, all the qualities he has.
 

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Well put, getting this vibe with a lot of first rounders lately.

Who's the last player to carve out a seriously successful career on sheer talent and poor work rate? It used to be pretty common, it absolutely just does not happen these days, the modern era is ruthless and you are weeded out within 4 years.

Brad Hill was forging a good career but has been found out.

Stewie Dew maybe?
This is an interesting point in the wider sporting context as it's something happening in sport around the world.

I remember Roger Federer talking about it years ago and he said something along the lines of "Everyone is so talented these days. When I started you could get in to the top 10 and maybe win a slam or 2 off talent alone, but these days everyone is just as talented so if you don't put in the work as well you're not going to make it anymore"

The amount of pathways and scouts that are around these days anyone with a modicum of talent is being snapped up so now the difference is the individuals workrate, outside of perhaps a few select cases.

Dane Swan jumps to mind for me, played with a pudge belly a lot and talked about training with hangovers and even sneaking alcohol into his water bottle at training to alleviate the effects of said hangovers. He's probably the most recent example but even he probably trained harder than some guys 20 years ago did.
 
Fev maybe? Agreed it's getting rarer by the year.
I don't think Fev is a good example as he worked very hard - he was just a bit of a dickhead when not training. He used to ignore sports scientists/trainers and do extra training at parks around the place in his own time. Not sure anyone who does more training than is allowed qualifies as someone who makes it off talent alone.
 
I don't think Fev is a good example as he worked very hard - he was just a bit of a dickhead when not training. He used to ignore sports scientists/trainers and do extra training at parks around the place in his own time. Not sure anyone who does more training than is allowed qualifies as someone who makes it off talent alone.
He certainly didn't work hard in the early years, would usually come back into prepared season with shocking skin folds and work it off fairly quickly. First time I've heard of him doing extras.
 
It's a nice wish list and for some/most, there are variations, which is also appealing

There will certainly be aspects that will remain the same, but hopefully it will be viewed in a positive way.

For me, I feel that some needed tweaks to the gameplan, will have a positive effect for other areas, such as player output and development

Just on Boyd, I sense he will get a look in sooner than we think. We are poor for ground balls, speed and disposal by foot, all the qualities he has.
Can Boyd play as a lockdown defender on small fast forwards or does he lack speed/endurance running? If he can he should be straight in.
 

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He certainly didn't work hard in the early years, would usually come back into prepared season with shocking skin folds and work it off fairly quickly. First time I've heard of him doing extras.
I'm surprised it's the first time you've heard it; he's talked about it several times over the years. He's talked about how he'd do extra goal kicking practice at footy fields around town because the trainers wouldn't let him do it at the club due to "load management", so he'd nick a back of footy's and go to parks where he'd kick for goal.
 
I'm surprised it's the first time you've heard it; he's talked about it several times over the years. He's talked about how he'd do extra goal kicking practice at footy fields around town because the trainers wouldn't let him do it at the club due to "load management", so he'd nick a back of footy's and go to parks where he'd kick for goal.
Well goal kicking practice isn't what I'd classify as physically demanding. If he was doing sprints I'd agree with you. Fev was a long way from a driven individual.
 
Was massive Tigers supporter as a junior. Chances of him moving to them high, although appears like he's after more money?
We are in the box seat then.
Nobody hands out big money like us.
Legally or illegally, we're the answer to your dreams.....well hopefully we are no longer doing the brown paper bag thing.
Come on down Mr. Cera but you can't have over $850,000.00. Paddy and some of the others are getting cranky.
 
Can Boyd play as a lockdown defender on small fast forwards or does he lack speed/endurance running? If he can he should be straight in.

Started as a small forward that can push up the ground, but recently has been playing as a small defender. Yes, does have speed and has great disposal on both sides

 
We still have half a season, with nothing to play for....

9 months until we can be excited about footy again
I have a strategy to deal with this.
I've convinced myself that it's cricket season 12 months of the year.
This time of the year I support any country that plays England.
 
We still have half a season, with nothing to play for....

9 months until we can be excited about footy again
Every game is something to be excited about..thats what footy is all about.
You might see the best mark ever or something else superb. That is what makes it worthwhile.

Hell I remember watching Phil Carman carve us up in a final and it was magnificent to see even though it hurt also.
SOS'es mark. Spine tingling for everyone there. We lost. But the memory is the mark..... games are soon forgotten.
 
Well goal kicking practice isn't what I'd classify as physically demanding. If he was doing sprints I'd agree with you. Fev was a long way from a driven individual.
He didn't need to do sprints, he was a full forward back when full forward actually meant something. He didn't need to get back into a zone defense and sprint forward on the rebound. He more or less lived out of the goal square and his most important thing was knowing when to lead and being a good kick for goal. He never lacked acceleration on the lead and he was also strong in marking contests. He did extra curricular work to make sure the other crucial part of his game was on point. That to me disqualifies him from being someone who got by on talent alone.

I'm not trying to argue he was a consummate professional by any stretch of anyones imagination. I'm simply arguing that wasn't someone who got by on talent alone.
 
Poor workrate. Poor overall fitness base and low stamina.

If there are three things that will prevent you from getting AFL games he's hitting the trifecta.

Will be a gun but needs to work for it. Word on the street? At this stage he's never had to.

You’ve just described Jack Martin....


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