Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[Juddernaut08]

Missed the last 3 games? and kicked a lot of 4's with a few of those late in the game

Have been wrong before though.

Don't think he'll win, but he had a fantastic season.

 

[carltonchelsea]

I stretched mine to breaking point. Those poor seams.

So that’s what a “katman” is then ‘ey?

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I have a theory that many people won't like, I have nothing solid to go on, just a hunch and could be totally wrong.

Murphy, Gibbs were soft sooks, who could cruise on ability and be good AFL players in their prime, they were the messiah's and touted as the chosen ones. However they lacked the drive, desire and hardness to be great.

Simpson and carrazo were part of this clique and although hard workers were snarky and not warm welcoming or encouraging to younger players/leaders of men. I once heard carrots say to Judd "my god he is a mental midget" when Kane Lucas missed a set from 30m at training. The way he said it seemed mean and cold.

Krezuer only gave on field leadership through action and not really part of any leadership/influence off field.


Anyway these guys weren't leaders, yet they were the "cool/alpha group" at the club. They aren't Josh Kennedy, Jude Bolton, Luke Parker types or Hodge, Roughead, Lewis kind of champions/leaders.



I have a feeling with Murphy now gone, there is an ability for some new guys to move into these hard to define social/on field/leader posts of the club and hopefully shake this losing culture that has plagued the club since 2002.

I have said more than once on here, that when this rebuild started back at the 2015 draft and trade period, the first thing SOS should have done was put them all up for trade.

 

[branedotorg]

Sier and Constable just got delisted and respective clubs. Feel that one of them are worth a look instead of Cottrell or potentially is Doc is on the long term injury list fill his spot

Both big slow mids, with dubious tanks.

Behind Cripps, Kennedy, Setterfield at least.

 

[VainGlorious]

I find it hilarious that people refer to Adrian Dodoro as a dodo just because of the blokes name…























He bears a far greater resemblance to a pack of seagulls for mine



#Bluemour

 

[VainGlorious]

I have a theory that many people won't like, I have nothing solid to go on, just a hunch and could be totally wrong.

Murphy, Gibbs were soft sooks, who could cruise on ability and be good AFL players in their prime, they were the messiah's and touted as the chosen ones. However they lacked the drive, desire and hardness to be great.

Simpson and carrazo were part of this clique and although hard workers were snarky and not warm welcoming or encouraging to younger players/leaders of men. I once heard carrots say to Judd "my god he is a mental midget" when Kane Lucas missed a set from 30m at training. The way he said it seemed mean and cold.

Krezuer only gave on field leadership through action and not really part of any leadership/influence off field.


Anyway these guys weren't leaders, yet they were the "cool/alpha group" at the club. They aren't Josh Kennedy, Jude Bolton, Luke Parker types or Hodge, Roughead, Lewis kind of champions/leaders.



I have a feeling with Murphy now gone, there is an ability for some new guys to move into these hard to define social/on field/leader posts of the club and hopefully shake this losing culture that has plagued the club since 2002.

 

[Worm4]

Both big slow mids, with dubious tanks.

Behind Cripps, Kennedy, Setterfield at least.

Setterfield is utter useless. He wouldn't be in our best 23 if all were fit

 

[VainGlorious]

Setterfield is utter useless. He wouldn't be in our best 23 if all were fit

I wouldn’t say he’s useless, he’s bereft of confidence at the moment sure, but useless?

Harsh.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

I don't but I do know that good defensive efforts are rewarded. Plow has polled very well last couple of years.

I have Walsh at $1.65 and Weitering at $2.30. 10/1 + the rest.

I can tell you now - Walsh wins it.

 

[Choc Milk]

I have a theory that many people won't like, I have nothing solid to go on, just a hunch and could be totally wrong.

Murphy, Gibbs were soft sooks, who could cruise on ability and be good AFL players in their prime, they were the messiah's and touted as the chosen ones. However they lacked the drive, desire and hardness to be great.

Simpson and carrazo were part of this clique and although hard workers were snarky and not warm welcoming or encouraging to younger players/leaders of men. I once heard carrots say to Judd "my god he is a mental midget" when Kane Lucas missed a set from 30m at training. The way he said it seemed mean and cold.

Krezuer only gave on field leadership through action and not really part of any leadership/influence off field.


Anyway these guys weren't leaders, yet they were the "cool/alpha group" at the club. They aren't Josh Kennedy, Jude Bolton, Luke Parker types or Hodge, Roughead, Lewis kind of champions/leaders.



I have a feeling with Murphy now gone, there is an ability for some new guys to move into these hard to define social/on field/leader posts of the club and hopefully shake this losing culture that has plagued the club since 2002.

The fullness of time has shown them all to be failures and pretenders. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. We were never going to win anything with them playing.

Look at Bryce Gibbs, Adelaide paid through the roof for him from observing him from the outside, once he got there and they learnt the real B Gibbs, he was banished to the twos and then delisted.

The other bloke lowered himself to being carried to 300 games, observe the difference in our new coach. Did absolutely everything there was to do as a player and bowed out with dignity at 289

 

[Weiterbot23]

The fullness of time has shown them all to be failures and pretenders. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. We were never going to win anything with them playing.

Look at Bryce Gibbs, Adelaide paid through the roof for him from observing him from the outside, once he got there and they learnt the real B Gibbs, he was banished to the twos and then delisted

I think that's a bit far

I just dont think they were leaders, they needed strong leaders to show them the way

Hopefully it is what has held us back.

Cripps and Doc seem like genuine leaders, now they are the vets hopefully its like when you drive a car for the first time yourself and feel way more confident in what you are doing vs having your dad glaring at you and telling you when to brake.

 

[Funk]

Cause we need an exciting small forward

Hmmmmm.

I’d prefer one that tackles and kicks goals.............

 

[VainGlorious]

The fullness of time has shown them all to be failures and pretenders. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. We were never going to win anything with them playing.

Look at Bryce Gibbs, Adelaide paid through the roof for him from observing him from the outside, once he got there and they learnt the real B Gibbs, he was banished to the twos and then delisted.

The other bloke lowered himself to being carried to 300 games, observe the difference in our new coach. Did absolutely everything there was to do as a player and bowed out with dignity at 289

Tell us how you really feel about them, Big M

 

[Choc Milk]

Tell us how you really feel about them, Big M

Hahah tell me i'm wrong

 

[VainGlorious]

Hahah tell me i'm wrong

You’re wrong.

How did I do?

 

[new_blue]

Really interested to see where Saad finished in the BnF.

I didn’t rate his season more than 6/10. For me he basically did the minimum that was expected….he didnt seem to take the game on as much as I hoped and often his kicking was just banging the ball on to his boot after running sideways rather than gaining as much ground as he could beforehand.

 

[BlueJet]

Delisted the recruit of the year in Nick Hind. Never hear about that

Largely because it didn't happen.

 

[norway blue]

68kgs - third twice in the brownlow - won the dees b & f only the one time in 77 - he is the utter epitome of a champion...........

Suprised he only won one bf . But yeah a champion in my eyes.


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[FRUMPY]

Really interested to see where Saad finished in the BnF.

I didn’t rate his season more than 6/10. For me he basically did the minimum that was expected….he didnt seem to take the game on as much as I hoped and often his kicking was just banging the ball on to his boot after running sideways rather than gaining as much ground as he could beforehand.

6/10 year should mean he is top 5?

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[Garters]

I think that's a bit far

I just dont think they were leaders, they needed strong leaders to show them the way

Hopefully it is what has held us back.

Cripps and Doc seem like genuine leaders, now they are the vets hopefully its like when you drive a car for the first time yourself and feel way more confident in what you are doing vs having your dad glaring at you and telling you when to brake.

Cripps and Doc I think it is fair to say are not where we need to be from a leadership standpoint.
Doc more leadership material than Cripps however neither have demonstrated comfort or ability in the role. Don't conflate indomitable playing style with strong leadership capabilities. Best thing the club can do is relieve the two of them of the captaincy. Let one focus on his health and the other focus on his football.

 

[La Dispute]

Sier and Constable just got delisted and respective clubs. Feel that one of them are worth a look instead of Cottrell or potentially is Doc is on the long term injury list fill his spot

Constable’s engine is shocking. Natural footballer, but hasn’t made any inroads in that area over 4 seasons.

Sier was great in that finals series in 2018, but has dropped off a cliff since.

Both a little too defective and NQR. Few whispers about Sier’s lack of professionalism.

Shame.

 

[La Dispute]

Really interested to see where Saad finished in the BnF.

I didn’t rate his season more than 6/10. For me he basically did the minimum that was expected….he didnt seem to take the game on as much as I hoped and often his kicking was just banging the ball on to his boot after running sideways rather than gaining as much ground as he could beforehand.

He played reasonably given he was under some duress and we didn’t properly utilise him.

Consistent, applied himself. Just wasn’t our year and that wasn’t on him - some of his defensive efforts were fantastic and borderline insane given the circumstances.

I’d go 7/10. Reckon he’s got a few gears to go and will improve considerably next year.

 

[Tjblues]

Thought it might be worth getting a view on Muprh’s leadership from someone who would actually have some idea. I don’t know about anyone else but these sorts of opinions mean far more to me than any agenda some posters on here may have

 

[Faz 2000]

Cripps and Doc I think it is fair to say are not where we need to be from a leadership standpoint.
Doc more leadership material than Cripps however neither have demonstrated comfort or ability in the role. Don't conflate indomitable playing style with strong leadership capabilities. Best thing the club can do is relieve the two of them of the captaincy. Let one focus on his health and the other focus on his football.

To me the right structure is Cripps captain. Get his head right that he needs to do the hard things and forget the flashy things, and he’ll get back to his best. Cripps is an inspirational, vocal, alpha leader type.

Doc would be a superb VC to me. The perfect 2IC, who brings the calm, sensible-haircut “ok here’s what to do” follow up to something rousing and revving from Cripps. He’s like the military second in command who does the orders after the boss has delivered the spray.

Cripps heart, aggro, excitement… in the thick of it. Doc cool, professional, consistent…. Stepped back and observing.

How I always thought it should be.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

So Alex Marcou, Peter McConville, etc are champions because they played in unbelievable teams but Marc Murphy or Kade Simpson can't be because they didn't win a premiership?

Marc Murphy in 2008-2015 (8 year span top 5 in b&f all but one year) was as good as half the players in the 81-95 premierships. But they are chamipions and Murphy is the reason we haven't had any success. There are many many reasons that we have not had success. I doubt MM is in the top 200.

Booby Skilton and Bob Murray must also be crap at everything too. Ohh and Nik Reiwoldt. Ben Cunnington - want a dud. Ohh and Travis Boak has given nothing to Port. So only premiership players add something to a club. IMO that is nonsense.

Murphy was in the coaches votes something like 16 or 17 times in the 2017 season. 99% sure it was the second most only behind Dusty who had one of the greatest seasons of all time. He absolutely carried us.
Murphy was never the problem, the problem was what we put around him and then us not being able to replace him 2 years ago.