Bluemour 'Silly Season' Edition XXXIV

[Benaly28]

What is it with trading players just because they have currency.It’s just absurd…..here’s a question why not just keep the player that is finally showing his worth, now that’s a solution.


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[BigFrizz36]

The point I was trying to make, which seems to fly over most peoples heads(not yours) is who could we possibly trade that has some value to other's(not Dow and Setters obviously) without leaving a gaping hole in the side?
Maybe a 3rd tall/ medium defender?

And the point that we are trying to make, which seems to fly over your head, is that our time is now. The club believes, rightly or wrongly, that we are in a position to challenge for a flag from next year.

If that is the case why would you look to take a best 18 player who has just had a very strong year and trade him for a draftee who is probably a late first/early second and will take at least 3 years to get to Kennedy's current output(if at all).

It just defies logic.

 

[TENACIOUS]

You're right, but what else is he gonna say anyway? Will be interesting to see if things develop. There's a little smoke there.

Personally I think we should have a go at bringing in both these players. Clearly we have identified them as potential and been in their ears so we should make a decent effort to bring them in.

List cloggers...
We have better talent in those positions, on our list already...

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Our problem isn't talent, it's mental. This playing group has a lot of mental scarring...

Nearly losing games from 40-50 points up. Fluffing up the last 5 mins 2 weeks in a row.

Not turning up to play when we need to...

We should be looking to bring in players/ people with recent premiership success to help steady them.

 

[cookie monster]

Our problem isn't talent, it's mental. This playing group has a lot of mental scarring...

Nearly losing games from 40-50 points up. Fluffing up the last 5 mins 2 weeks in a row.

Not turning up to play when we need to...

We should be looking to bring in players/ people with recent premiership success to help steady them.

Totally agree
For list balance purposes, a 30+ year old works for us too.

 

[RoyalBlues]

 

[Michael Jezz]

I’m so invested in Dow. I want him to make it AT CARLTON. I say if he wants to stay then he stays.

Flogging dead horses is an occupational hazard

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

And the point that we are trying to make, which seems to fly over your head, is that our time is now. The club believes, rightly or wrongly, that we are in a position to challenge for a flag from next year.

If that is the case why would you look to take a best 18 player who has just had a very strong year and trade him for a draftee who is probably a late first/early second and will take at least 3 years to get to Kennedy's current output(if at all).

It just defies logic.

Relax Tiger, we all know it's not going to happen.
It's just a conversation about team balance.

 

[KohPhi]

What is it with trading players just because they have currency.It’s just absurd…..here’s a question why not just keep the player that is finally showing his worth, now that’s a solution.


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[Hands On]

"We certainly expect those boys (McAsey and Sholl) to be at the football club next year," Reid said.
He is obviously trying to build up trade value. "poor mans DODORO"

 

[RPCB]

"We certainly expect those boys (McAsey and Sholl) to be at the football club next year," Reid said.
He is obviously trying to build up trade value. "poor mans DODORO"

Isn’t that a good thing?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

True, but he hasn`t played for two of those three years, so I don`t think that argument would carry much weight as their coach doesn`t seem too keen on him exactly.....

With Sholl there wouldn't be any issues in us covering some of his salary, we have quite a lot of cap space even with Rankine coming through. It's his speed and pressure around the ground that's the main issue for us. He has a huge workrate, and doesn't have a preferred foot, so i can see why some would think there's potential there to build on. I'd say a 3rd round with Crows chipping in a bit for his salary would do it.
With McAsey it's more about the fact that he's only got 1 year left on his contract, and instead of letting him go for a bag of chips this year (as a former Pick 6), we might as well hold onto him and and put him down back in the SANFL now that Frampton has gone to the Pies. I'd imagine he's in delist/bag of chips territory next year if he doesn't switch it on. If it's not something like a 2nd rounder i just don't see us trading him out. Your lot seem to be pretty patient with KPD's, so might see the value of giving him some more time to develop.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

With Sholl there wouldn't be any issues in us covering some of his salary, we have quite a lot of cap space even with Rankine coming through. It's his speed and pressure around the ground that's the main issue for us. He has a huge workrate, and doesn't have a preferred foot, so i can see why some would think there's potential there to build on. I'd say a 3rd round with Crows chipping in a bit for his salary would do it.
With McAsey it's more about the fact that he's only got 1 year left on his contract, and instead of letting him go for a bag of chips this year (as a former Pick 6), we might as well hold onto him and and put him down back in the SANFL now that Frampton has gone to the Pies. I'd imagine he's in delist/bag of chips territory next year if he doesn't switch it on. If it's not something like a 2nd rounder i just don't see us trading him out. Your lot seem to be pretty patient with KPD's, so might see the value of giving him some more time to develop.

Both 4th round trades, at best.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Both 4th round trades, at best.

For 4th round picks you're better off heading to the draft and selecting relative unknowns

 

[Arr0w]

For 4th round picks you're better off heading to the draft and selecting relative unknowns

Sholl would be worth a late 2nd - mid 3rd, IMHO

McAsey, really hasn't done much at all, so I would actually go to the draft for talls as even through the 3rd, 4th rounds there are some genuine prospects with decent upside

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

The point I was trying to make, which seems to fly over most peoples heads(not yours) is who could we possibly trade that has some value to other's(not Dow and Setters obviously) without leaving a gaping hole in the side?
Maybe a 3rd tall/ medium defender?

TDK. Easy enough to find another number two Ruckman for very little.

EDIT: I do understand its not going to happen. Just responding to the question asked before everyone loses their marbles over that suggestion

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Sholl would be worth a late 2nd - mid 3rd, IMHO

McAsey, really hasn't done much at all, so I would actually go to the draft for talls as even through the 3rd, 4th rounds there are some genuine prospects with decent upside

Agree regarding Sholl, although i still think Crows would come to the party with his wages.

And McAsey? Yeah precisely my point, he's currently worth a bag of chips based on current output (although we know KPD's are slow to develop, sometimes very slow) so we might as well just hold onto him. I don't see his trade worth being any different this year to next (if he continues to underperform), which is next to nothing.

 

[Kruezing]

Barnesy’s still got it …

 

[Accidental genius]

TDK. Easy enough to find another number two Ruckman for very little.

EDIT: I do understand its not going to happen. Just responding to the question asked before everyone loses their marbles over that suggestion

next minute he is taking speckies over our defenders heads...and kicking accurately.

Im not seeing him just as a ruck...he is a ruck, forward and helps out in defence when needed.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

For 4th round picks you're better off heading to the draft and selecting relative unknowns

My point exactly.

 

[skadoosh]

 

[passmark]

Do we class that move as a success? I think that really just prolonged the career of a very average player. It was good for the player but was it good for the club?

Dud post of the year.

 

[HaydossJ]

Our problem isn't talent, it's mental. This playing group has a lot of mental scarring...

Nearly losing games from 40-50 points up. Fluffing up the last 5 mins 2 weeks in a row.

Not turning up to play when we need to...

We should be looking to bring in players/ people with recent premiership success to help steady them.

and that's an issue because half the game is in between the ears. I'm sure the club is across it, but I hope we're investing in top quality sports psychologists

 

[Blue Viking]

Our problem isn't talent, it's mental. This playing group has a lot of mental scarring...

Nearly losing games from 40-50 points up. Fluffing up the last 5 mins 2 weeks in a row.

Not turning up to play when we need to...

We should be looking to bring in players/ people with recent premiership success to help steady them.

100% spot on, mate I could not agree with you more.

 

[BlueTongue]

Our problem isn't talent, it's mental. This playing group has a lot of mental scarring...

Nearly losing games from 40-50 points up. Fluffing up the last 5 mins 2 weeks in a row.

Not turning up to play when we need to...

We should be looking to bring in players/ people with recent premiership success to help steady them.

100% This.