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Never said it was started by a blues fan. However, the premise of this thread is quite simple. You either agree with the thread title or not.

If the answer is no, then this argument is much ado about nothing.

Perhaps the answer for you is as simple as reading what's being discussed, instead of being stuck on a thread title coined 15 pages ago now.
 
Zoom in on your own image - you've got nothing left to stand on.

Good day to you.

LOL. You painted fingers on Docherty's clenched fist dude. I'm sure by now you've realised this. If you zoom in on the image you'll see you've confused the colour of Christensen's left arm in the background for being the hand of Docherty, which is what you've outlined. Other angles corroborate this.
 
Perhaps the answer for you is as simple as reading what's being discussed, instead of being stuck on a thread title coined 15 pages ago now.
I have been reading, the vibe I get is NO I didn't cost Carlton the game as there have been quite a few points of contention raised.

So anyway I have noticed you're quite persistent in arguing your point of view, yet quite evasive in answering my question
 

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I have been reading, the vibe I get is NO I didn't cost Carlton the game as there have been quite a few points of contention raised.

No one incident can cost a team the game. I look at the Carlton vs Freo game as a great example, even at the death. In the last couple of minutes there were a few incidents that could be viewed as "costing" us that game. Docherty kicked out on the full clearing from defense. Casboult dropped as absolute sitter on the wing; had he marked it, the ball wouldn't have made it back into Freo's forward line. Wood hacked the ball out of the pack in Freo's goal square, kicking straight to an opponent who then goaled. Most view this last one as "costing" us the game, as it had the most direct and obvious impact, but there were a number of things in those closing minutes that contributed to the loss. Change any one of them and the result would likely have been different.

In context of the Geelong game, take away the ump error and Carlton may well have won the game, they may not have; we'll never know of course, but nonetheless it's not desirable that umpire error should leave such questions begging. Aside from that error though, there are also any number of other inputs that contributed to the result as well. So it can't be seen as "costing" or "robbing" anyone of anything. I think the point of contention for me is Geelong posters saying the free didn't make a difference, when clearly it made a solid contribution, or that the free kick was warranted regardless.

So anyway I have noticed you're quite persistent in arguing your point of view, yet quite evasive in answering my question

Your question has already been answered by my previous posts.
 
LOL. You painted fingers on Docherty's clenched fist dude. I'm sure by now you've realised this. If you zoom in on the image you'll see you've confused the colour of Christensen's left arm in the background for being the hand of Docherty, which is what you've outlined. Other angles corroborate this.

Right, fingers is your quibble.

I rest my case.
 
Doesn't matter how you try and spin it, there is either a free kick for the arm chop (right arm taken out), or there is a free kick for a push in the back

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Mate, no amount of diagrams from NASA is going to change this. The game is long gone. People like you infuriate me with your mindless spamming

Hahaha. Nah mate. You choose to be infuriated, just as you've chosen to read this thread. You should probably learn to take some responsibility for your emotions rather than blaming others. Try some mindfulness or relaxation techniques or something. Life's to short to make yourself grumpy over what some nuffie like me types on an internet forum.
 

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Bobby ... mate, it's you trying to spin it. The umpires coach and boss have both agreed there was no free.

Let's move on. The team sheets have been released for the next game. I'd say now is a good time.

Luckily the umpire in control of the game agreed it was. Because it clearly was.

Gif clearly shows the left hand contacting the ball also.
 
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Doesn't matter how you try and spin it, there is either a free kick for the arm chop (right arm taken out), or there is a free kick for a push in the back

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If thats a push in the back it's time to give the game away. It is a slight arm chop. I'm not sure why they brought the rule in though, arm chopping was always part of the game . It's where the phrase strong mark comes from.

that's play on in the finals and should always be. poor decision.
 
Can you think of a single example of a player taking a mark before an infringement on his teammate in the same pack and not being allowed to keep the ball? I can't.

Told you I'd get back to you on this. Dying minutes of the Port vs Richmond game, Westhoff marked the ball; after he marked a Tigers player pushed Gray into him and the ump called the free over the mark and gave the ball to Gray. Happens regularly the infringement is called ahead of the mark.
 
Told you I'd get back to you on this. Dying minutes of the Port vs Richmond game, Westhoff marked the ball; after he marked a Tigers player pushed Gray into him and the ump called the free over the mark and gave the ball to Gray. Happens regularly the infringement is called ahead of the mark.

You're quoting a post from three weeks ago.

It is very debatable that Westhoff took the mark before Gray was shoved (they happened pretty much simultaneously). And Gray was closer to goal, and not in the marking contest, which was probably why the umpire gave him the kick.
 
You're quoting a post from three weeks ago.

I wouldn't have watched a whole game of footy out of the three I've tuned into since that Cats game. For example, I only watched the end of the last quarter of this Tigers vs Port match. And with that small sample ... whaddya know! As I've said all along, happens often enough, as it did with Ellard's mark.

It is very debatable that Westhoff took the mark before Gray was shoved (they happened pretty much simultaneously). And Gray was closer to goal, and not in the marking contest, which was probably why the umpire gave him the kick.

The mark was clearly completed by the time this became a push free for Gray. So much so, Hoff that was walking back on the mark.

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And yes, anything is debatable when you can't admit error and argue for this sake rather than the truth.

Anyway. I'm just pointing out that this happens, as I said I would. Cya and good luck for the rest of the finals :thumbsu:
 
I wouldn't have watched a whole game of footy out of the three I've tuned into since that Cats game. For example, I only watched the end of the last quarter of this Tigers vs Port match. And with that small sample ... whaddya know! As I've said all along, happens often enough, as it did with Ellard's mark.

Wow, that's convenient. Your team played two games after the Geelong one. If you haven't watched a full game of football in three weeks, I'd suggest that maybe you're not that well-placed to say what goes on regularly in games and what doesn't.


The mark was clearly completed by the time this became a push free for Gray. So much so, Hoff that was walking back on the mark.

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And yes, anything is debatable when you can't admit error and argue for this sake rather than the truth.

Lol...umpires do not have access to instant replays, let alone still shots. In real-time, they happened pretty much simultaneously. The umpire went with the free kick that gave the greatest advantage to Port Adelaide.
 

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