Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

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Barham Re Ruttens appointment..."Sean Wellman and Xavier looked around and talked to people so there wasn't no process"

Relax everyone we are In great hands.
 
Interesting listening to Barham again where he did not actually criticize the internal review but wanted to get an external review based on what other clubs are doing to compare. Not that it is a bad thing but obviously the internal review was not just simply underwhelming as reported.
 
CBombers17 said:
Re Ruttens appointment..."Sean Wellman and Xavier looked around and talked to people so there wasn't no process"

Relax everyone we are In great hands.
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The did actually put some work into it. I know they where looking at candidates who could possibly be the future senior coach. Of course they still got it wrong in the end.
 
I’m the sort who likes to give people a chance to prove themselves when new to a role. Barham ****ed up the communication with Ben but he has admitted mea culpa which at least should speak to his orientation to the club as opposed to himself.

He also spoke about doing a lot of hard work in the coming months. I’m prepared to see what that entails and how it moves us towards the image EFC forms of itself as a great club again.
 
frodos gardener said:
I’m the sort who likes to give people a chance to prove themselves when new to a role. Barham *ed up the communication with Ben but he has admitted mea culpa which at least should speak to his orientation to the club as opposed to himself.

He also spoke about doing a lot of hard work in the coming months. I’m prepared to see what that entails and how it moves us towards the image EFC forms of itself as a great club again.
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Feel like a lot of the distain towards how he’s handled this can be clawed back by actually running a detailed, transparent process and decisive action to implement change.

His first action was an ugly mistake but at least he tried to take action unlike a couple of ex. presidents prior.
 
My favourite part of the presser was when old mate said that "no positions are under review". Sounds like a real quality external review is coming up.
 

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ant555 said:
Interesting listening to Barham again where he did not actually criticize the internal review but wanted to get an external review based on what other clubs are doing to compare. Not that it is a bad thing but obviously the internal review was not just simply underwhelming as reported.
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His description of the review and wanting to “add external inputs” etc were word-for-word copies of what Brasher said in his statement. It’s clearly just PR-coached talking points. Part of the deal to not talk each other down publicly, no doubt.

I maintain there never was a review of any substance. I mean beyond Mahoney etc just actually doing his normal job.

And there’s no plan for an external review either. The plan was get Clarkson. Who knows what “review” they’ll cobble together now.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
His description of the review and wanting to “add external inputs” etc were word-for-word copies of what Brasher said in his statement. It’s clearly just PR-coached talking points. Part of the deal to not talk each other down publicly, no doubt.

I maintain there never was a review of any substance. I mean beyond Mahoney etc just actually doing his normal job.

And there’s no plan for an external review either. The plan was get Clarkson. Who knows what “review” they’ll cobble together now.
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There was an internal review. People seem to forget that when it was announced the scope was not the coaches. I posted it back then that from what I knew it was about where they can spend more money so they where looking at player development , more support for the coaches and boosting recruiting. It was more advanced than the normal quarterly reviews they do but it was never about the coaches. It just got some sort of traction in the media as a review of the football department for some reason.
 
CBombers17 said:
Barham Re Ruttens appointment..."Sean Wellman and Xavier looked around and talked to people so there wasn't no process"

Relax everyone we are In great hands.
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It may be the norm for the CEO to talk to a potential coach but surely not to choose one, albeit for the future? Nothing against Truck on this, just on process.

Did we not have a manager of football at the time? Richardson?
 
Browne: So does Essendon know what sort of coach it wants?
Barham: Ummm well thats what we are gonna work out on Sunday
Browne: So, no
Barham: Ummmmmmmmm

When Tom ****ing Browne is making you look stupid after he was $1.05 on Clarkson, wow.
 
Old Campaigner said:
So we somehow ended up with a board that is simultaneously pro-external review but also pro-approach Clarkson without any kind of proper process?
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That's how I see this.
Rutten has been thrown under the bus by a faction who want external scrutiny of our processes, but who also want the power to be kingmakers. Their unprincipled and desperate 11th hour hail Mary has reduced the club to a laughing stock.

What player will now want to come to Essendon? Those courtships, if they were happening, will be on hold until the senior coach position is sorted out.

The Switkowski report surely would have identified the lack of due process in hiring for coaching positions. And now here we are, with some even seriously suggesting we parachute James Hird in. Again.

Everyone's talking about how Truck's position cannot be tenable, and it probanly isn't if he doesn't have the support of the board. I think we should be asking ourselves if Barham's position is tenable. He has been the principle driver of this current situation, unrealistically chasing Clarkson, hanging Rutten out to dry, humiliating the club and potentially destroying any chance we may have had to continue the rebuild by recruiting leaders into the team. He has potentially set back the rebuild both in terms of list management and coaching, seeking a pipedream coach by the same old parachute method that has stung us in the arse before. And he wants to cling to an 'external review'. News flash; we can run one of those without Dave Barham.

I'm on the Stand by Truck side for now. He's been the only virtuous leader we've had in all of this.
 
ghostdog said:
That's how I see this.
Rutten has been thrown under the bus by a faction who want external scrutiny of our processes, but who also want the power to be kingmakers. Their unprincipled and desperate 11th hour hail Mary has reduced the club to a laughing stock.

What player will now want to come to Essendon? Those courtships, if they were happening, will be on hold until the senior coach position is sorted out.

The Switkowski report surely would have identified the lack of due process in hiring for coaching positions. And now here we are, with some even seriously suggesting we parachute James Hird in. Again.

Everyone's talking about how Truck's position cannot be tenable, and it probanly isn't if he doesn't have the support of the board. I think we should be asking ourselves if Barham's position is tenable. He has been the principle driver of this current situation, unrealistically chasing Clarkson, hanging Rutten out to dry, humiliating the club and potentially destroying any chance we may have had to continue the rebuild by recruiting leaders into the team. He has potentially set back the rebuild both in terms of list management and coaching, seeking a pipedream coach by the same old parachute method that has stung us in the arse before. And he wants to cling to an 'external review'. News flash; we can run one of those without Dave Barham.

I'm on the Stand by Truck side for now. He's been the only virtuous leader we've had in all of this.
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Im with you on this.

Im still on the fence with truck but i think he needs time to turn the list over and develop our kids. Esp given a lot of them make up the spine.

What i do know is how bad our board has been and still is.
Id be far more comfortable operating without a board tbh at this stage than without rutten.
 
frodos gardener said:
I’m the sort who likes to give people a chance to prove themselves when new to a role. Barham *ed up the communication with Ben but he has admitted mea culpa which at least should speak to his orientation to the club as opposed to himself.

He also spoke about doing a lot of hard work in the coming months. I’m prepared to see what that entails and how it moves us towards the image EFC forms of itself as a great club again.
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So, you'll support him because you accept his philosophy that it is easier to ask for forgiveness later? He seems to me to lack emotional intelligence and that has resulted in the fallout we now have. By burning Truck he has burned the club.
 
ghostdog said:
So, you'll support him because you accept his philosophy that it is easier to ask for forgiveness later? He seems to me to lack emotional intelligence and that has resulted in the fallout we now have. By burning Truck he has burned the club.
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My basic rule of thumb in business is to give someone 3-6 months to evaluate. I formed this principle pretty early on in my career as I realised I’d jump to conclusions sometimes too quickly based on 1 or 2 things, then be proven wrong.

My sense with Barham is that he has some sprinklings of narcissism but that he has credibility as a former of teams, reliability because he is consistent in that, intimate to a degree because of his willingness to admit mistakes, and lastly he is geared towards the success of EFC in a football sense. That’s why personally I haven’t formed a judgement that he’s the wrong guy to lead the board.
 
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