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Don't tell me Truck is the one to blame for how bad we are on-field. The players were so wounded by how Truck was treated AND it was a beloved players return from a serious injury while also being his final game and the team still couldn't get up for it.

We obviously need a strong, experienced coach to address the cultural issues as well.

External review (I hope) also addresses our physical preparation, fitness etc.
 
Don't tell me Truck is the one to blame for how bad we are on-field. The players were so wounded by how Truck was treated AND it was a beloved players return from a serious injury while also being his final game and the team still couldn't get up for it.
The players all year haven’t been up too standard and really do not want to run both ways and do the hard stuff
 

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This is horse-s**t...you implement a plan based on the team you have not the team you want. Truck is a moron, happy to see the back of him. Cya mate
What finals-worthy game plan do you think we could possibly implement with a team that has no mature KPPs, no small forwards, one small defender and a bunch of front-running midfielders 🤣

I mean he could let them play shootout footy and fall into finals on 11-12 games and percentage each year, then get bailed out as the pretenders we are. That'd work while we rebuild the list, just stick around the fringes for 4-5 years while the talls mature and they recruit to flesh out the 22.

But then you get 4-5 years into a rebuild without ever having learned the stuff you need to do to contend. so...
 
I mean he could let them play shootout footy and fall into finals on 11-12 games and percentage each year, then get bailed out as the pretenders we are.
You're kidding yourself if you think we could fall into the finals playing any other game plan. I'm not phased by losing, it's about how you lose. I would mind if we lost every game of the year if we were competitive and had a structure that was scalable. Rutten has had 3 years to build a structure...he's failed
 
You're kidding yourself if you think we could fall into the finals playing any other game plan. I'm not phased by losing, it's about how you lose. I would mind if we lost every game of the year if we were competitive and had a structure that was scalable. Rutten has had 3 years to build a structure...he's failed
Every final we've made for the last 20 years was exactly that, 11-12 wins, front running footy, and bailed out with a 60-point interstate drubbing 🤣

I'm not kidding anyone, and honestly I think we're actually in agreement
 
Sorry to intrude, but Chocco would be on top of my list. Look at recent successful clubs and he’s been there. Touted to be a great development coach and a relationship builder.

Put some tactical assistants around him and I think you have the perfect team.

If I was 100% sure Chocco would take our job if we offered it to him, I would take him before Clarko.
Chocco is cooked mate he is a part time coach the game has passed him bye 10 years ago. He is more a personal one on one sort of guy teaching the younger players about the game.
 
Probably more for the Rutten thread, but

What was being built that was looking stable and sustainable?

Where have we improved over the past 23 weeks/2 years?

If a new coach ends up taking over, what might be areas of improvement we've seen glimpses of that you might credit the current regime?

There have been some improvements in isolated things, but I’ll assume you’re being rhetorical (which is fair enough)…

Obviously there’s issues but who’s to say it is Rutten? It could be any magnitude of things inside this mess of a club. We can of course sheet everything home to the coach and go with another, but we’ve done that multiple times. Perhaps he is on the right track but can’t implement things permanently because of issues with the playing group and deeper cultural issues?

Rutten has seen success. Caracella has seen plenty and so has Giansiracusa.

How can we say we’re doing an in depth review and sacking these blokes first? Huh?
 
Don't tell me Truck is the one to blame for how bad we are on-field. The players were so wounded by how Truck was treated AND it was a beloved players return from a serious injury while also being his final game and the team still couldn't get up for it.
They are not wounded they haven't played for him all year occasionally turn up if they feel like it. Tonights unispiring performance shows this team is nothing but talk. Talk is cheap we need to go get some real bulls that don't take a backward step. Some junk yard dogs just not danielle🤣
 
There have been some improvements in isolated things, but I’ll assume you’re being rhetorical (which is fair enough)…

Obviously there’s issues but who’s to say it is Rutten? It could be any magnitude of things inside this mess of a club. We can of course sheet everything home to the coach and go with another, but we’ve done that multiple times. Perhaps he is on the right track but can’t implement things permanently because of issues with the playing group and deeper cultural issues?

Rutten has seen success. Caracella has seen plenty and so has Giansiracusa.

How can we say we’re doing an in depth review and sacking these blokes first? Huh?
Wasn't rhetorical. Looking for the positives and/or the signs a sacking would be a mistake. I liked a lot of the calls Rutten made over the past couple of years, the attempt to reconnect to the history, his lack of excuses.

People point to sides like Tigers & Demons hanging in through the tough times and coming out the other side. Don't think you can flick a switch and have it click all of a sudden. Surely there's some sort of incremental progression? I don't think we saw anything across the past 23 weeks, but others who follow it more closely might be able to say
 

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This is horse-s**t...you implement a plan based on the team you have not the team you want. Truck is a moron, happy to see the back of him. Cya mate
You’ll be the same one that cries when we get smacked in finals playing a game style that suits our list. Attacking, flair and defenceless football isn’t going to get us anywhere.
 
There have been some improvements in isolated things, but I’ll assume you’re being rhetorical (which is fair enough)…

Obviously there’s issues but who’s to say it is Rutten? It could be any magnitude of things inside this mess of a club. We can of course sheet everything home to the coach and go with another, but we’ve done that multiple times. Perhaps he is on the right track but can’t implement things permanently because of issues with the playing group and deeper cultural issues?

Rutten has seen success. Caracella has seen plenty and so has Giansiracusa.

How can we say we’re doing an in depth review and sacking these blokes first? Huh?

Barham strikes me as quite the simpleton. A basic understanding of sack the coach, and everything will be fixed. (The equivalent of blaming the goalie in soccer)
Only after approaching Clarkson did he seek out Rutten to better understand the game plan. Should have been the other way around, and even then I’m certain he couldn’t comprehend a thing.
 
If there were to be a board spill, who would you want on it?

Would keep the three women, maybe make one of them president. This wouldn't be for gender reasons but to try and move away from the stale group currently running the club.

Add Charlotte Miller due to her role in successfully developing the women's program.

Allocate an area for each board member to oversee.

One or two board spots for past players, with the requirement that players are premiership players and extensive experience outside of the EFC, people like Andrew Walsh and Jobe Watson.

The rest don't need replacing leaving a board of 5 or 6.
 
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This is horse-s**t...you implement a plan based on the team you have not the team you want. Truck is a moron, happy to see the back of him. Cya mate
what plan do you implement for a bunch of front running flat track bullies with very little physical presence and no leadership. ?
Please do tell us.
 
Barham strikes me as quite the simpleton. A basic understanding of sack the coach, and everything will be fixed. (The equivalent of blaming the goalie in soccer)
Only after approaching Clarkson did he seek out Rutten to better understand the game plan. Should have been the other way around, and even then I’m certain he couldn’t comprehend a thing.
Barham strikes me as an empty suit that's taken the top job at the behest of rich nuffies that think their contributions to the club entitle them to a say in how it's managed.
 

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Five ****heads on the board make a ****wit move and the rest of the club and us supporters have to put up with the bs fallout including being an absolute laughing stock. Barham and Sheedy out
 
So

what plan do you implement for a bunch of front running flat track bullies with very little physical presence and no leadership. ?
Please do tell us.
That's it in a nutshell. He was doomed from the start. Didn't have the cattle to deliver the plan and was always going to struggle in the interim. Needed everything to go his way this year to get through. All with a rancid infighting club culture playing out in the background - a further distraction for players.

Its unlikely but I reckon he should be able to coach his final year. Do the review and fix what needs fixing. Set reasonable goals and demand a better start to the season or he's under the pump. It's possible the supporters would get behind this too now after what's taken place.
 
We wouldn't even be having this conversation if Rutten was a past Essendon player. Hird in his second year was given a pass for missing finals from 10-3 and 138% after round 14. Literally lost 8 of the last 9 games with losing margins of 71, 67, 96, 94 included in that stretch. Can you imagine if Rutten did that?

I'm just sick of how this football club operates. Knights got zero support and Hird gets probably one of the most expensive coaching teams ever assembled. Rutten gets disrespected for no good reason.

I'd be ok with specifically making sure we don't employ Essendon people until the club stabilises.
 

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