Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[DallasCrane316]

Caro on FC saying they staff are a bit annoyed at the line of questioning from the external review. Said particularly the assistant coaches.

Lloyd saying he’s spoken to past players that have been asked questions. They’re happy that the club is taking action and have apparently said the questioning is confronting and tough. And people are feeling drained after it. Seems pretty thorough.

 

[Lore]

Caro on FC saying they staff are a bit annoyed at the line of questioning from the external review. Said particularly the assistant coaches.

Lloyd saying he’s spoken to past players that have been asked questions. They’re happy that the club is taking action and have apparently said the questioning is confronting and tough. And people are feeling drained after it. Seems pretty thorough.

At least we know they are asking questions then

What on earth kind of questions would be regarded as confronting and tough though, aside from why why why like a 2 year old?

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Caro on FC saying they staff are a bit annoyed at the line of questioning from the external review. Said particularly the assistant coaches.

Lloyd saying he’s spoken to past players that have been asked questions. They’re happy that the club is taking action and have apparently said the questioning is confronting and tough. And people are feeling drained after it. Seems pretty thorough.

Review staff: Please spell the word "defence".
Player A: Can you please use it in a sentence?
Review staff: To minimise the opposition score, each player should run back to assist with team defence when they possess the ball.
Player A: J-O-G-A-N-D-P-O-I-N-T
Review staff scribbles notes

(Later in the Gym)

Player A: Oh my god this review is confronting, the questions don't even make sense! They're using words I've never heard of!
Player B shakes head then calls his manager

 

[CBombers17]

At least we know they are asking questions then

What on earth kind of questions would be regarded as confronting and tough though, aside from why why why like a 2 year old?

Could be tough being asked to comment on stuff they weren't privy to because half the place has piss bolted.

Plus I imagine the whole thing would be like being hauled into HR. Probably feels like a little internal club court case or something. Would be annoying AF having some overpaid clueless slick turd who couldn't GAF probing away at you like they are Perry Mason. Meanwhile you'd like to be having some downtime not pandering to some review thats already achieved its purpose. Annoying could contribute to draining. Anyway these would be my guesses.

 

[citizen-erased]

At least we know they are asking questions then

What on earth kind of questions would be regarded as confronting and tough though, aside from why why why like a 2 year old?

Imagine it'd be along the lines of

 

[Lore]

The clip

 

[frodos gardener]

Being an employee of a place subject to review is rarely fun. Anxiety is high and uncertainty reigns; it does bring out some defensiveness. It doesn’t mean, though, that the review is being done badly or anything. In fact it means the kiddie gloves are off.

The other thing to keep in mind is that Caro and her highly-esteemed media friends will latch onto anything for a sound bite. All it would take is for a friend of an assistant to say to her “not sure Gia is enjoying all the extra meetings atm” and all of a sudden she’s spouting dramatics on FC.

 

[ant555]

“I‘ve had some people say to me, and that’s a player or two at the club, that they’ve loved it because it has been a brutal questioning,” the three-time Coleman medallist told Footy Classified.

This is part of our problem. Why are players talking to Lloyd ? You do not hear Gary Lyon brining up issues from Melbourne players but for some reason we seem to have players talking to Lloyd who is in the media . Just another way to destabilize the club via "Essendon people " outside of the board. The flow on is then you get Kane Cornes

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commenting that Rutten has 100% lost part of the playing list.
Typical Essendon.

 

[faible]

“I‘ve had some people say to me, and that’s a player or two at the club, that they’ve loved it because it has been a brutal questioning,” the three-time Coleman medallist told Footy Classified.

This is part of our problem. Why are players talking to Lloyd ? You do not hear Gary Lyon brining up issues from Melbourne players but for some reason we seem to have players talking to Lloyd who is in the media . Just another way to destabilize the club via "Essendon people " outside of the board. The flow on is then you get Kane Cornes commenting that Rutten has 100% lost part of the playing list.
Typical Essendon.

Has Lloyd had much / anything to do with any currently listed player?

 

[ant555]

Has Lloyd had much / anything to do with any currently listed player?

He has obviously got the ear of some of them.

 

[faible]

He has obviously got the ear of some of them.

I don't think his playing career has crossed over with anyone other than Hurley, and I can't imagine many of the younger guys having anything to do with him unless it was via school football - is he still doing that?

 

[ant555]

I don't think his playing career has crossed over with anyone other than Hurley, and I can't imagine many of the younger guys having anything to do with him unless it was via school football - is he still doing that?

He is but he does not need any cross over from the playing group. He just has to know the coterie members who help the players out with off field opportunities. Trust me. He has been talking to some players.

 

[CBombers17]

Good to hear the players are fearless question answerers

 

[Dave]

He has obviously got the ear of some of them.

No chance he's just talking shyte?

 

[Don Won]

No chance he's just talking shyte?

‘A player or two’… is the giveaway. Surely even Lloyd could count that many.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

No chance he's just talking shyte?

thats was my first thought. Wouldnt put it past lloyd to pump his tires and add a bit of mayo to his claims.

 

[ant555]

Good to hear the players are fearless question answerers

compared to not being so fearless on the ground

 

[ant555]

No chance he's just talking shyte?

He has been a little too close to the mark for that.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

thats was my first thought. Wouldnt put it past lloyd to pump his tires and add a bit of mayo to his claims.

My opinion of Lloyd is that he was an exceptional player. I do think he was a selfish player, not a great leader and he needs to learn to shut his mouth on his opinions of things he isn't privy to because his opinions create unnecessary pressure from the coteries.

However, I do believe he is a true professional, has legitimate sources and wouldn't be adding mayo.

 

[yodellinhank]

This is part of our problem. Why are players talking to Lloyd ? You do not hear Gary Lyon brining up issues from Melbourne players

Garry is a flog and nobody likes him from all reports. Maybe Schwarta gets the inside word.

 

[ant555]

Garry is a flog and nobody likes him from all reports. Maybe Schwarta gets the inside word.

Actually his sidekick Tim Watson would have been a better choice to compare to. He knows a lot of inside stuff but only ever repeats about 1% of it.

 

[CBombers17]

Actually his sidekick Tim Watson would have been a better choice to compare to. He knows a lot of inside stuff but only ever repeats about 1% of it.

So total opposite of us on here

 

[TheGrizz]

Has Lloyd had much / anything to do with any currently listed player?

Scott Lucas and Adam Ramanuskas are pretty active player agents.

If they/their agency have players at Essendon I could see it making its way to Lloyd via them for example.

 

[EliteCarParkFacilities]

Can Sheedy say something racist already so they can cannonball him into space already

 

[Zach Package]

Full organisational overhaul is far, far more important than the coach search despite the coach search being far more high profile.

The coach is a spoke, no matter who we end up picking they are essentially assured of failure if we do not get the house in order and it may mean that the coach after the next coach is the one that really reaps the benefit. The hope was always that Worsfold was that bridging person but because of all the prolonged shithousery Rutten has become collateral damage as well. Hird was doomed to fail last time through no fault of his own, will be doomed to fail again too unless other wrongs are remedied.

As far as I'm concern unless this external review really does the business and the recommendations set us on the path to becoming a model outfit then we're in the wilderness for the next 5 at least. It needs to identify the right key people to take us forward and then those key people need carte blanche.

Whoever the new footy director is probably needs a HR background as much as they need a footy background to examine the lifecycle from pre draft interviews all the way to exit interviews and every step in between with a fine tooth comb before we go out and make a splash on a gun list manager or a gun strength and conditioning guru, which we obviously need but the approach needs to have laser focus.