Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[faible]

When did Adrian receive his life membership?

Same year as the great Ricky Dyson, 2021

Five new life members inducted

Essendon welcomes five new life members during its 2021 AGM and Members Forum.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[84859300]

Not 100% sure but there are definitely higher levels of access given to people throwing in thousands of dollars than a pleb spending his Christmas money on a flex membership

I get my cash from doing my paper round and delivering meds to the oldies from the pharmacy.

 

[faible]

delivering meds to the oldies from the pharmacy.

This is an absolute great gig, my grandma gets her delivered and always gives the guy a cash tip

 

[Milanista28]

Thank god we have Brad Scott, Truck never stood a chance and someone like Yze would've been eaten alive.

 

[Zach Package]

The more interesting part to me was the comment about match committee happening in Dodoro's room/office (I forget the exact word they used). I wonder if they mean something called the War Room which is afaik a small meeting room that they use for signing players etc (we've seen pics in there when Mozzie signed, I think? Had random info on the whiteboard behind him, scandal!) Dodoro would often be using that room for recruiting team meetings, but I don't think it's actually his room/office? Or maybe it is/was his room, or one of those situations where his name isn't on the door but all his stuff is in there with his work all over the whiteboard? idk. I think that specific room is supposed to be sound proof or something too.

It has some jazzy name but it is purported to be on specific swipe card access so only about half a dozen people can get in. I guess it would make sense for the match committee information to be kept under similar lock and key but the Hangar is an enormous facility worth hundreds of millions of dollars, you would think they could have 2 rooms.

 

[RearNaked]

Sheeds president dodo ceo hird coach Harvey head of football get it done

 

[carloss]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/allowed-to-fester-essendon-feud-is-a-ticking-time-bomb/news-story/c552f7c24c7ed49585c71598e3fb3fd8

Hawthorn great Daniel Harford

Daniel Harford

Age

48

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.4

4star

 

[Atavistic]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/allowed-to-fester-essendon-feud-is-a-ticking-time-bomb/news-story/c552f7c24c7ed49585c71598e3fb3fd8

Hawthorn great Daniel Harford

Everyone is either a "great" or a "star" these days.

 

[ghostdog]

Hard not to conclude the same old nuffies, the Coteries, the Sheeds/Dodo axis of old timers, whatever we label 'em, are proving too powerful to dislodge, otherwise you'd think the axe would have fallen in the off-season.

It reeks a bit of the Aus politics factionalism within the major parties. If you have to throw an election (sacrifice on-field performance) to maintain control over the party (or club), then that's a price worth paying for some. All about feeling like top dogs, no matter how small the kennel.

Optimates is the term you're looking for I reckon.

 

[citizen-erased]

It doesn’t help that old Essendon represents our only real link to success- they’ll simply point to the fact that everyone who has come after them has failed to reach the heights they did and insist they steer the ship because of that. Never mind that the league has changed immensely since their time and looking to club legends from the premiership era to fix things is essentially a cargo cult.

And those legends are actively undermining future success

 

[citizen-erased]

On dodoro and match committee i took the insinuation to be he'd be asked in on player profiles, and the meeting was in his room (maybe he has the bigger office?)

I get the logic behind asking the guy who recruited players on what they can do, but its fraught with risk. You ask the guy whose job is building a high performing list who can plug gaps in said list....self preservation kicks in and he names whoever. And we see the experiments we see

You're also running the risk that the person actively negotiating contracts has a say in the team selections/roles.

It's not ideal.
The coaches should know the capability of the players. They don't need the list team assisting the selection of the squad or the roles they play

 

[IggypopsTshirt]

If you need clarification of why we’ve been shit for the past decade look no further than Simon Madden on SEN.

“After the saga: We had to make sure we were secure financially first of all”

“After the saga: we had to go slowly with players to keep them. But now (10 years later) it’s a good time to start training them hard again”

 

[citizen-erased]

If you need clarification of why we’ve been s**t for the past decade look no further than Simon Madden on SEN.

“After the saga: We had to make sure we were secure financially first of all”

“After the saga: we had to go slowly with players to keep them. But now (10 years later) it’s a good time to start training them hard again”

People did say it would set us back a decade.
No one mentioned it would be a series of self inflicted wounds and own goals

 

[ant555]

Thank god we have Brad Scott, Truck never stood a chance and someone like Yze would've been eaten alive.

Probably a good point. I was keen on Yze but it is 100% clear that it was not the players who needed an experienced coach. It was the club.

 

[citizen-erased]

Probably a good point. I was keen on Yze but it is 100% clear that it was not the players who needed an experienced coach. It was the club.

Not the worst outcome getting the afl footy operations boss to sort us out

 

[Zach Package]

People did say it would set us back a decade.
No one mentioned it would be a series of self inflicted wounds and own goals

Bit of nostradumbass stuff here but I always said it would take until every single player involved is no longer on the list.

We’re just down to Heppell now with Ryder and Hurley staying on by choice but the backroom stuff is certainly not needed.

 

[Vander18]

If you need clarification of why we’ve been s**t for the past decade look no further than Simon Madden on SEN.

“After the saga: We had to make sure we were secure financially first of all”

“After the saga: we had to go slowly with players to keep them. But now (10 years later) it’s a good time to start training them hard again”

Jesus Christ….

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Thank god we have Brad Scott, Truck never stood a chance and someone like Yze would've been eaten alive.

I and many others pointed this out on Sept, and Wilson articulated it last night -- we ask our coaches to coach with one arm tied behind their back.

When they say Dodoro is typically "consulted" on match selection I feel like, in light of comments that some of the non-Essendon people who have coached us have said while exiting the club, "consulted" might be doing a truckload of heavy lifting (no pun intended)

How good or bad Dodoro is at his job is entirely irrelevant at this point; the club must try something else if only for the sake of potentially learning something about itself.

Sheeds president dodo ceo hird coach Harvey head of football get it done

 

[windyhill]

Sheeds president dodo ceo hird coach Harvey head of football get it done

 

[RearNaked]

Looks like a premiership hangover

 

[Milanista28]

Not the worst outcome getting the afl footy operations boss to sort us out

Most likely tin foil hat type stuff this, but I felt we were umpired well in our game, like we had the rub of the green. I hope it continues haha.

 

[Lore]

I can see Essendon being oh so clever that we've found a work-a-round and so we're using it regardless of whether it's actually in our best interests. I'd also question the $ for the boys side of it too if I were a paid up member.

If it's a way to sign players outside of the draft/trade system then sure, we absolutely would. It would be a very Dodoro type low-level troll move.

But when Harvey's role changed at the end of 2020 it was Xavier Campbell in the big chair and Dan Richardson (who was about to be sacked) that made it happen. I get succession plan vibes more than loophole vibes.

Also found this which might be of interest to you:

"At my age and where he (Campbell) sees me at with the football club, at 55 and one of the oldest coaches still in a football department, I made comment to him and said 12 months ago about what it might look for me," Harvey told AFL.com.au.

"It's a bit more of the coterie side of things, with a little bit of football department input around that area, (to provide) some expertise and what I've learnt over the last 20-odd years.

"Having a look at things like list development and a little bit of pro scouting.

"As a coach you study the opposition, you keep an eye on all of the players and it gives you a good understanding.

"When you're a senior coach, which I've also done, you're heavily involved in list management, so I've got an indication on how all that works."

Harvey explains new role

Mark Harvey discusses what his dual role at the club will look like in 2021.

www.essendonfc.com.au

But I also think Vozzo could be sorting through all this. It's weird, I think I'm on team Vozzo. I've been getting the feeling he could be just what we've always needed.

And you don't see people jumping up and down over Hurley.

Lloyd seemed to scoff that the coterie role would have any impact.

I don't think people generally have a problem with a bunch of deep pocketed fans donating to the club and being involved in the club in various ways.

Other clubs have coteries, and all of them have celebrated ex-players and ex-coaches both inside and outside the club, in the media, etc.

Those things aren't really unusual.

What is problematic is that the club could be charitably described as a hot mess, it has had a series of weak leaders that fold with a bit of pressure from AFL house, disappear when the going gets tough, or have their priorities all out of whack and decide that mollycoddling the players and trying desperately to rebuild the finances are the priorities for the next decade, regardless of any 5-10 year plans they might present at the AGM.

We've been in a position where the coteries have a lot of influence for a pretty long period of time, such that we've become reliant on coterie members to donate, to sit on the board, and to come white knighting whenever we have to break a few eggs, aided and abetted by long-term employees, ex-players and ex-coaches who have never known anything different and have been so close to it for so long that they can't see what is wrong with it. Heck, likely also some current players and current coaches.

If there was one thing Sheedy showed us it's that this club has to have a strong personality at the centre of it who is willing to lead, who has high standards and is willing to change course when necessary, and to defend that decision convincingly and logically to all comers, wealthy or otherwise. Someone that has the gravitas to tell the list manager to go fly a kite, the coteries to shut up and open their chequebooks, and the pleb members to buy a ticket and bring marshmallows. If they happen to win a few finals, so much the better (but we might as well be asking for the stars to align).

Sheedy is well past it himself these days, and trying to carve out that space for himself again is actually making it harder for those who can take us into the future.

But we do need strong leadership at this club. One can only hope that Scott/Vozzo/Barham might be that, but if not there's always the next 150 years.

Re: Lloyd, see the green font above.

 

[Lore]

Figured I'd watch a bit of 360, fast forward for the Essendon bits, duh. Eddie Betts talking about our game, said nice stuff but nothing in particular... but apparently Robbo didn't even watch the game, he watched the other one instead. Thank god? He didn't elaborate but

 

[citizen-erased]

Figured I'd watch a bit of 360, fast forward for the Essendon bits, duh. Eddie Betts talking about our game, said nice stuff but nothing in particular... but apparently Robbo didn't even watch the game, he watched the other one instead. Thank god? He didn't elaborate but

defeated?
also, what other game? I didnt think there was an overlap of the games?

 

[andleanback]

Figured I'd watch a bit of 360, fast forward for the Essendon bits, duh. Eddie Betts talking about our game, said nice stuff but nothing in particular... but apparently Robbo didn't even watch the game, he watched the other one instead. Thank god? He didn't elaborate but

Guessing he was watching the gws come back. It was actually a cracking game. Its funny though if we hadve got smacked, he would’ve been shooting from the hip even though he didn’t watch it