News Bock -Betting Scandal

[Elder van Berlo]

i dont see this as a problem for the AFL/ASADA. it's a problem for the players and the people that lied to them. But for the AFL/ASADA it has to be clear cut. you took the substance, you get banned. That ban would be reduced if they openly admit to what happened and assist with the investigation.

it's tough, but it's the only way unfortunately.

Not sure if this is the most up to date AFL Anti-Doping Code, but it does provide for penalties being reduced or eliminated entirely in certain circumstances.

http://www.aflcommunityclub.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Play_AFL/AFLAnti-DopingCode2010ASADA.pdf

14.4 Elimination or Reduction of Period of Ineligibility Based on Exceptional

Circumstances
a) No Fault Negligence

If the Player establishes in an individual case that he bears No Fault or

Negligence for the violation, the otherwise period of Ineligibility shall be

eliminated. When a Prohibited Substance or its Markers or Metabolites is

detected in a Player's Sample in violation of Clause 11.1 (Presence of

Prohibited Substance), the Player must also establish how the Prohibited

Substance entered his system in order to have the period of Ineligibility

eliminated. In the event this Clause is applied and the period of Ineligibility

otherwise applicable is eliminated, the Anti Doping Rule Violation shall not be

considered a violation for the limited purpose of determining the period of

Ineligibility for multiple violations under Clause 14.6.

(b) No Significant Fault or Negligence

If a Player or other Person establishes in an individual case that he or she

bears No Significant Fault or Negligence, then the otherwise applicable period

of Ineligibility may be reduced, but the reduced period of Ineligibility may not be

less than one-half of the minimum period of Ineligibility otherwise applicable. If

the otherwise applicable period of Ineligibility is a lifetime, the reduced period

under this section may be no less than eight (8) years. When a Prohibited

Substance or its Markers or Metabolites is detected in a Player's Sample in

violation of Clause 11.1 (Presence of Prohibited Substance), the Player must

also establish how the Prohibited Substance
entered his system in order to

have the period of Ineligibility reduced.

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

I know some stories about old bocky. I won't share them, just know that we're better off without him

Fill me in... PM?

 

[Sanders]

Controversy does follow him around

 

[rayven]

Dv
Druggy mum
betting
doping

Sounds like he'll make a good assistant coach when he retires...

 

[spenze]

Dv
Druggy mum
betting
doping

Sounds like he'll make a good assistant coach when he retires...

Bombers have a few positions opening up

 

[rayven]

Bombers have a few positions opening up

They'll be filled by the defunct MFC..

 

[MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl]

Mum's the word on this one.

 

[swanfan]

A case of the apple not falling far from the tree.

 

[jenny61_99]

A bit harsh. He was using a drug to improve his recovery. Wasn't he injured for the better part of 2010? He's a picnic short of a sandwich, so it's no surprise he chose to accept the "persons" word that is was compliant rather than check himself.

 

[swanfan]

Testament to the fact that stupid people can make good money.

 

[DangerSloane]

Sounds like a very dodgy character given the betting, and worst of all, the handbag incident as well. Glad he left but the AFL will find someway to punish us over this

The betting wasnt dodgy. He told his family he'd be playing forward and they spread it like wildfire.

So much so that I heard it well in advance of the game, and I'm a nobody.

 

[swanfan]

The betting wasnt dodgy. He told his family he'd be playing forward and they spread it like wildfire.

So much so that I heard it well in advance of the game, and I'm a nobody.

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[DangerSloane]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Yep but I made money, so at least someone enjoyed Bock's tip of the week.

 

[weekend at bernies]

So does does mean we now lose our 3rd and 4th round draft picks???

 

[Bicks]

Just heard on the radio the AFL have just released that 26 players have tested positive to recreational drugs in the last 12 months, cocaine being the main one followed by amphetamines, a threefold rise over the previous period. Bit of a worry...

 

[Slippery Pete]

Just heard on the radio the AFL have just released that 26 players have tested positive to recreational drugs in the last 12 months, cocaine being the main one followed by amphetamines, a threefold rise over the previous period. Bit of a worry...

All on first strike?

 

[Bicks]

All on first strike?

Not sure, only pricked my ears when I heard Vlad's voice.

 

[jenny61_99]

All on first strike?

three on their third strike. Most clubs affected although he said a couple weren't. More at some etc. Wish they'd just name them or not give this information out at all. Speculation will be rampant.

 

[Bicks]

All on first strike?

Story up on The Age website now...

The AFL Players Association has made concessions in its voluntary illicit-drug test agreement with the AFL as a result of the proportion of failed tests more than tripling last year.
The AFL and AFLPA jointly announced on Thursday morning that there had been 26 failed tests by players last year – equal to the total number of failed tests over the preceding three years.

More tests, and more positive tests.
While the number of tests increased by almost 500 between 2011 and 2012 the proportion of failed tests increased significantly, from 0.4 per cent in 2011 to 1.31 per cent in 2012. The latter result was the highest proportion of failed tests since 2006, the second year the system was operating.
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AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou rejected the suggestion the results were "devastating" for the AFL. He said players who had tested positive were "a very small minority who are making poor choices".
"As a code, what I’m particularly proud of is that we have a policy in place that actually identifies people who have taken illicit drugs. I’d rather be our sport than several other sports that don’t even have a policy," he said.
AFLPA chief executive Matt Finnis said the results were "obviously disappointing" but also "a reminder that illicit-drug use is a problem across society, and football cannot afford to be complacent".
"We’d prefer to have continued the trend we had in the past, but I think we said at the time we weren’t sure how unsustainable that was given the growth in the use of drugs in society. I think it would be naive to think players would be immune from that," he said.
AFL medical director Dr Peter Harcourt, who leads the clique privy to all aspects of the results, said the trend towards players taking a more lax or defiant attitude to illicit-drug consumption became evident after the 2011 season.
"(Co-director) Harry Unglik and I started to notice attitudinal issues, a shift in the attitude of players, about 15 months ago ... and we started to ask about the availability of illicit substances in the community because we were getting the message from the players that when they were going back to their (non-football) peer groups they’d have a few drinks and illicit substances would come out."
He said cocaine was the "standout" drug, with stimulants such as it accounting for 25 of the 26 failed tests in 2012. Methamphetamine was also increasingly prevalent.
The 26 failed tests last year resulted in two players progressing to their second strike, for three overall. If a player reaches a third strike their identity is disclosed as part of their punishment.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/positive-drug-tests-on-the-rise-20130516-2jntd.html#ixzz2TRdYmB4V​

Found this sentence particularly interesting.

Clubs will also be given the power to officially request the AFL target test specific players they suspect are involved in illicit-drug use.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/positive-drug-tests-on-the-rise-20130516-2jntd.html#ixzz2TRe8zu00​