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sam_e said:
For mine, the send-off rule would work fine for clearly "intentional" acts where a player is concussed / injured etc

But i would have classified Jack Martin's hit on Blakey as intentional ..ball has all but gone, clenched fist, swinging arm, belts him in the jaw. The only reason he doesn't break his jaw is Martin's small bony hand /knuckles. Grading that as 'careless' is a joke .. he lines him up with intent, it's intentional in my eyes.
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The concern last Thursday would be that the umpire probably would have called Maynard’s smother and collision “intentional” given he immediately reported him and paid a downfield free kick.
That’s the tough thing about a send-off rule. No doubt there would be some controversial instances.
 
domus said:
The whole circus has been simply due to the fact it was Brayshaw who was bumped and then knocked unconscious. If Van Rooyen had elbowed Paddy McCartin instead of McStay he too would most likely have been severely concussed and possibly unconscious given how easily he was concussed after laying his head upon the grass with as much force as most of us place our head on the pillow. I suppose the Swans and media would have been baying for his blood and demanding a 4 week suspension. The same can be said for Martin's swinging hand to the face of his opponent. Had that been McCartin rather than Blakey the outcome would have been very different. The fact that the outcome of an act plays such a role in the severity of the penalty is wrong. It should be all about the intent and action.

So, it was never about the actual collision but very much the man with whom Maynard made contact.

I feel for the next player who enters a physical contest with Angus where a fierce bump or strong tackle is required.
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The force of that collision to the head is knocking most people out. If they were travelling at approx 15km each in the opposite direction, it's the equivalent of having a 180km weight dropped on your head from the roof of a two story house.
 

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sr36 said:
The force of that collision to the head is knocking most people out. If they were travelling at approx 15km each in the opposite direction, it's the equivalent of having a 180km weight dropped on your head from the roof of a two story house.
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Nevertheless, McCartin and Brayshaw are far more likely to be concussed or KO'd than a player who has never been concussed. My son had to retire due to too many concussions. He was knocked out a number of times but in the end an errant punch to the back of the head was enough to dilate his eyes and have him in Lala land. It was the kind of ear rub that players get from a hardnosed defender which almost never do more than sting and get your attention. Multiple KO's make you more susceptible.
 
Pistol Night said:
Would be an absolute disaster. Imagine Maynard getting sent off last Thursday and we lost only to have him cleared at the tribunal. Brayshaw would need to send him flowers
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Umpires can barely scratch their own arse.
 
cfc19902010 said:
speaking of concussion..amazing how many times Rayner seems to be "accidentally "taking players out with his knee flying for marks .. ..he got Ryan and Murphy at docklands and he kneed port player last week..I hope fly has seen this and if we do play them in two weeks we act..
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+1 on Rayner.

He and Van Rooyen are held in similar esteem.

Both too often choose to physically injure their opponent.
 
3rdMan said:
Never saw the "overruling" of Christian as strange or a problem. He asseses the case on purely football terms. As we saw during the hearing he was right that there was nothing in it. However others at the AFL need to do more than look at the case in isolation. They need to think about clearly communicating to clubs and fans, testing cases that might be near the edge or part of future legislation, and yes managing perception and protecting the game's image. In the end I think they made the right call in referring to the tribunal.
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Agree.
The AFL did the right thing and the right verdict was returned.
At the very least they have to be seen to be doing everything possible, even to the point of being overzealous, to negate injury to the head.
The sad thing is it is never going to eradicate all head injury while the game is a contact sport.
 

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Kudos to Gown for telling it like it is ... actually.
Melbourne captain Max Gawn has shed further light on Collingwood defender Brayden Maynard’s controversial visit to Angus Brayshaw’s home after he knocked the Dees midfielder out in a collision.

Maynard visited Brayshaw’s home the day after the incident, which became the subject of debate in the footy world amid the bumper AFL Tribunal case that saw Maynard ultimately cleared of rough conduct.

Gawn said the atmosphere was not convivial when Maynard arrived, but was not in line with reports of a more emotionally-charged reception

“It was 10 minutes, everyone knew each other. We played with Brayden’s brother three or four years ago, his dad works at the club. There’s a phenomenal connection between the Maynards and pretty much everyone at the football club,” he said on Triple M’s Marty Sheargold Show.

“It’s what I expected for a guy that hit someone - well, knocked someone out accidentally the night before.

“We weren’t on the couch watching Thank God You’re Here, we weren’t having a genuinely good time, but it was certainly not the reports that have come out.”
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3rdMan said:
Never saw the "overruling" of Christian as strange or a problem. He asseses the case on purely football terms. As we saw during the hearing he was right that there was nothing in it. However others at the AFL need to do more than look at the case in isolation. They need to think about clearly communicating to clubs and fans, testing cases that might be near the edge or part of future legislation, and yes managing perception and protecting the game's image. In the end I think they made the right call in referring to the tribunal.
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They were also covering their arses in case of future litigation.
 
windchimes said:
FWIW I also think Caro's comments about the flowers being chucked and Mrs.Brayshaw responding to Bruzzy's text by telling him to get stuffed are a load of absolute rubbish.

Just stoking up drama and, regardless, totally irrelevant and no one's business even if it was true, which it probably wasn't.
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Kirby said:
Don’t know if any of you guys caught Gawn on MMM this morning being interviewed by Marty Sheogold?

He basically refuted what Caro claimed about Maynard’s visit to Brayshaw.

He was there and so was Petracca - he says that all three of them know each other well. He says that he himself took the flowers and put them in a vase and also put the wine in the wine fridge.

He says that Maynard was there about 10 mins in total and basically indicated that there were no issues.

So, Caro either made that all up, or alternatively no doubt will claim that this is what her source told her and stand by that.
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Everyone laughs at Caro’s bullshit. What a stain she is.
 
Mollythedolly said:
LOL, highlighting how irrational his posts are is neither name calling or a personal attack so if that’s your starting point your way off.
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You said he had "silver foil in his hat". That is labelling someone a conspiracy theorist. At least be big enough to admit that it was name calling. Evidence below ....
Mollythedolly said:
I’ll leave it there as it’s clearly a waste of my time given the silver foil in your hat is clearly rendering you incapapable of rational thought on the subject.
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Now you are also falsely suggesting I am pushing conspiracy theories.
Mollythedolly said:
Happy for you to push your conspiracy theories, but I’ve said from the start I was happy for the afl to kick the can down the road and that it was likely more about public perception and optics. Nothing has changed that view.
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Whereas I have, in fact, consistently (check my posts) been saying that the AFL sent the case to the tribunal on a classified basis to try and spin the the comms to look like they were doing something, when they knew they could not win and they should have either said "no case to answer" or sent it unclassified.
 
ElliottsMaggies said:
He'll get 40 touches and half a dozen goals if he plays in the Prelim, if they do make it.

No oppo player will go near him.
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And not 1 person will question how a player knocked out for 2 mins, with a history of concussion, is allowed to play 2 weeks after the incident.

They are all about player welfare when it suits them.
 
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