Traded Brodie Grundy [Traded to Melbourne for #27]

[VinnieB]

Might bounce back to bottom 4 next season?

Wasn't that long back

Doubt it. Not before the Tigers.

 

[La Dispute]

How do we keep doing it and still play finals above Carlton??? That should be the real question you ask yourself each night.

Fluking wins, old finals hardened list.

Will Collingwood finish Top 4 or Bottom 4?

Could go any which way.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Doubt it.

Very good chance imho.

Just lost one of your better players while paying him (again) a lot for a long time - to play elsewhere.

Old list, terrible percentage, won a host of games by a bees dick. Harder draw.

Usual tough for a coach in year 2

Good luck

 

[BEEG]

Are you ever really out of it if you are paying around $300k a season for the next 5+ years? I don’t know what the exact amount is but rumored to be close to it. Pies fans will always say it is the lowest they can etc though.

Media and opposition fans will always go with the highest amount.

 

[VinnieB]

Very good chance imho.

Just lost one of your better players while laying him (again) to play elsewhere.

Old list, terrible percentage, won a host of games by a bees dick.

Good luck

He only played the 1st 6 games of the season. We then went on to win most of our games with 2 other ruckman.
Rising star winner, 19 yr old kicked 40 goals. Regularly played with half a dozen 1st or 2nd year players.

Yep, should be well ahead of the aging Tigers who have sold their future for midfielders in a bottom 3 team.

 

[WilloTree]

I thought the idea was you paid part salary for a decent pick OR received a crap pick, but cleared the salary?

Collingwood seem to be a bit half-pregnant on this one.

Ripping deal for Dees on face value.

 

[Chism]

Media and opposition fans will always go with the highest amount.

While your own will always play the lowest…..

Somewhere in between is the truth! But honestly at the end of the day you are still paying a fair bit for 2 Gun players play for other teams for a long time yet.

 

[DuckToaster]

Very good chance imho.

Just lost one of your better players while paying him (again) a lot for a long time - to play elsewhere.

Old list, terrible percentage, won a host of games by a bees dick.

Usual tough for a coach in year 2

Good luck

yeah those 6 games Grundy played for us last year really were the difference

 

[Marcel Proust]

He only played the 1st 6 games of the season. We then went on to win most of our games with 2 other ruckman.
Rising star winner, 19 yr old kicked 40 goals. Regularly played with half a dozen 1st or 2nd year players.

Yep, should be well ahead of the aging Tigers who have sold their future for midfielders in a bottom 3 team.

Why talk about how bad the Richmond team is in the grundy discussion?

 

[VinnieB]

Fluking wins, old finals hardened list.

Will Collingwood finish Top 4 or Bottom 4?

Could go any which way.

Probably ahead of Carlton again.

 

[Duskfire]

I still find this whole thing crazy. Good job to Melb, if they can get his body right, this will be the steal of the century.

 

[tiger_tough]

Time will tell.

The salary is good, but it’s for another 5 years, and he will be 29 in April. If they get a flag in that time, then yes.

What if Collingwood wins a flag with Tom Mitchell next year though?

Then it'd be a win-win. Dees can't really lose here.... and I hate the bastards.

 

[BEEG]

While your own will always play the lowest…..

Somewhere in between is the truth! But honestly at the end of the day you are still paying a fair bit for 2 Gun players play for other teams for a long time yet.

Treloar isn't worth the money injury prone mid who is now playing off half back.

Time will tell with Grundy had best years just before signing the contract and didn't do a stack since.

The contract was awful which is our fault obviously but if we didn't move it this year it's unlikely it gets moved especially at 30 years old.

 

[Chism]

Treloar isn't worth the money injury prone mid who is now playing off half back.

Time will tell with Grundy had best years just before signing the contract and didn't do a stack since.

The contract was awful which is our fault obviously but if we didn't move it this year it's unlikely it gets moved especially at 30 years old.

I agree mate but the question still needs to asked as to what exactly the Pies are paying and for how long to have them both play for other teams.

 

[La Dispute]

Probably ahead of Carlton again.

Just like 2021?

 

[The 747]

Melbourne have committed robbery here, upgraded their ruckman for a two time AA (at a discount paid by the other club) and got two first round picks as well.

Pies though have got rid of that dumb contract.

 

[PieLebo87]

Then it'd be a win-win. Dees can't really lose here.... and I hate the bastards.

If he breaks down, and they’re paying the last 2-3 years of his contract for him to be on the sidelines, that’s still a win for them?

Not saying it’ll happen, but it’s not a win for the Dees unless he stays fit, and plays out his full 5 years.

Can’t just say it’s a win for them regardless.

 

[faible]

this will be the steal of the century.

Bowes and #7 for a pick in the 50s will be right up there...

 

[kaiserchief13]

Will make it interesting for fantasy/supercoach players - they will steal each others points now

 

[tiger_tough]

If he breaks down, and they’re paying the last 2-3 years of his contract for him to be on the sidelines, that’s still a win for them?

Not saying it’ll happen, but it’s not a win for the Dees unless he stays fit, and plays out his full 5 years.

Can’t just say it’s a win for them regardless.

Yeah that's fair. It's not a steal if he's off injured for years. If they get 3 or 4 solid years out of him while they're in the window they won't be complaining. Gawn is a bit banged up too and they'll losing nothing if he goes down and Grundy steps in.

 

[The 747]

Treloar isn't worth the money injury prone mid who is now playing off half back.

Time will tell with Grundy had best years just before signing the contract and didn't do a stack since.

The contract was awful which is our fault obviously but if we didn't move it this year it's unlikely it gets moved especially at 30 years old.

Well Treloar is worth what the Dogs are paying him.

 

[Chism]

Will make it interesting for fantasy/supercoach players - they will steal each others points now

Witts R1 / Value R2 and don’t touch either Gawndy!

 

[old55]

If he breaks down, and they’re paying the last 2-3 years of his contract for him to be on the sidelines, that’s still a win for them?

Not saying it’ll happen, but it’s not a win for the Dees unless he stays fit, and plays out his full 5 years.

Can’t just say it’s a win for them regardless.

It's only a win if Grundy is a Melbourne premiership player.

 

[The 747]

So the Pies had Witts, traded for nothing so they could keep two time AA and BnF Grundy.

Now they trade Grundy and pay part of his salary so they can keep Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

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6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

and Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

33

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

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[BEEG]

Yeah that's fair. It's not a steal if he's off injured for years. If they get 3 or 4 solid years out of him while they're in the window they won't be complaining. Gawn is a bit banged up too and they'll losing nothing if he goes down and Grundy steps in.

Right now if Dees game style is the 2 Rucks then they have done extremely well to get someone of Grundy skill for unders (pick wise) will he work with Gawn and play out the full contract at a high level we won't know for a while.