Traded Brodie Grundy [Traded to Melbourne for #27]

[Stabby McGee]

Listening to Graeme Wright post trade period, seems as though we’ve bitten the bullet with Grundy’s contract and sacrificed Fiorini by dumping the full $650k owed into 2023’s cap so we can free that money up straight away at the end of 2023. Potentially looking for a big fish via FA next year, the Pies.

I tell ya, I'm in awe of that fella. Put the nuts and bolts into a lot of Hawthorns glory, then walked into a mess at Collingwood - a real club killing mess - and went about clinically fixing the problem. And then the patient got off the bed and danced a polka. My club would have been being sized up for a coffin if we'd have screwed up the list like that.

 

[PieLebo87]

Will be interesting to see how you top this years big fish McStay.

You hang around like a bad smell sometimes.

 

[00Stinger]

Listening to Graeme Wright post trade period, seems as though we’ve bitten the bullet with Grundy’s contract and sacrificed Fiorini by dumping the full $650k owed into 2023’s cap so we can free that money up straight away at the end of 2023. Potentially looking for a big fish via FA next year, the Pies.

Legit question, would a big FA feel comfortable signing a big deal with Collingwood when they have seen how the club has honored big contracts of the last few years?

 

[PieLebo87]

Legit question, would a big FA feel comfortable signing a big deal with Collingwood when they have seen how the club has honored big contracts of the last few years?

Have any of our big contracts not been paid what they were owed? I honestly don't reckon any players out there are concerned by what happened with Collingwood 2 years ago. Collingwood is still appealing, as was evident by us bringing in 4 recruits during this trade period. Particularly now with Fly at the helm, and the shift in the culture.

 

[zeggie]

Take your pick, are they dogshit for offering him a contract that was way overs or for getting rid of that contract and getting a second rounder?

Both.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Legit question, would a big FA feel comfortable signing a big deal with Collingwood when they have seen how the club has honored big contracts of the last few years?

Can see McStay playing for another club in 2024. Top 10 pick attached.

 

[eastfreo75]

Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

is an example of why teams shouldn’t match other teams massive over the top offers.

Collingwood would have been better to not match the Adelaide and took the picks from the Crows.

Magpies needed to trade Treloar and Stephenson for a bag of beans because of cap pressures.

In the end with a new coach who doesn’t rate skilled rucks, Grundy is out the door for pick 27.

 

[Anzacday]

Brodie Grundy is an example of why teams shouldn’t match other teams massive over the top offers.

Collingwood would have been better to not match the Adelaide and took the picks from the Crows.

We had a President who overrode list management (allegedly).

 

[BEEG]

Brodie Grundy is an example of why teams shouldn’t match other teams massive over the top offers.

Collingwood would have been better to not match the Adelaide and took the picks from the Crows.

Magpies needed to trade Treloar and Stephenson for a bag of beans because of cap pressures.

In the end with a new coach who doesn’t rate skilled rucks, Grundy is out the door for pick 27.

Treloar has done nothing to show he is worth the huge back ended contract playing off Half Back for the Dogs and came 8th in the BnF.

Stephenson was moved more due to attitude after the bubble with Covid players had to treat him like a baby get him up for breakfast make sure he was at training, spent all night playing video games and would go to bed at 5am, the playing group and coaches had enough.

I can't see how either player has hurt us we then showed we could make a prelim without Grundy who would get tap outs but never to advantage and with 5 years left on that contract I'm happy be out from under it.

Would we have kept Treloar and Grundy on less money absolutely but it didn't turn out like that and Eddie was running the show with players contracts etc that was our biggest issue.

 

[PieLebo87]

Brodie Grundy is an example of why teams shouldn’t match other teams massive over the top offers.

Collingwood would have been better to not match the Adelaide and took the picks from the Crows.

Magpies needed to trade Treloar and Stephenson for a bag of beans because of cap pressures.

In the end with a new coach who doesn’t rate skilled rucks, Grundy is out the door for pick 27.

You’re not wrong there.

I can also imagine the uproar/media attack had we let him go after being in the last 2 AAs and winning the club’s last two B&Fs. Collingwood was stuck between a rock and a hard place with that Grundy contract.

The money was never really the problem, it was the term. On that form, he was worth $900k a year, but for 3-4 years only, and if he’d continued that exposed form of the previous 2 years.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing though.

 

[Trav 20]

Grundy who would get tap outs but never to advantage ...

So Grundy never supplied tap outs to advantage. When people make usch stupid and absolute statements it ruins any credibility, if there was some.

I suspect he doesn't win two Copelands or two All-Australians if his taps were such a disadvantage to his team.

 

[PieLebo87]

So Grundy never supplied tap outs to advantage. When people make usch stupid and absolute statements it ruins any credibility, if there was some.

I suspect he doesn't win two Copelands or two All-Australians if his taps were such a disadvantage to his team.

I get what the other poster is saying.

He isn’t the best HTA ruckman or amongst the best. His strengths as a ruckman are his around the ground work, and being an extra midfielder.

He isn’t a great tap ruckman though. A good example of this is the 2019 Prelim v GWS where he had 70 odd hitouts with the Giants winning the clearances by about 20 more.

 

[Trav 20]

I get what the other poster is saying.

He isn’t the best HTA ruckman or amongst the best. His strengths as a ruckman are his around the ground work, and being an extra midfielder.

He isn’t a great tap ruckman though. A good example of this is the 2019 Prelim v GWS where he had 70 odd hitouts with the Giants winning the clearances by about 20 more.

Not that I was responding to you...

Did you read the post I quoted ?

So you're also saying that Grundy ''never got tap outs to advantage'' ?

You do realise that that's the premise of the post you've responded to ?

 

[PieLebo87]

Not that I was responding to you...

No, but I’m responding to you.

Did you read the post I quoted ?

So you're also saying that Grundy ''never got tap outs to advantage'' ?

You do realise that that's the premise of the post you've responded to ?

He has obviously won HTA before.

I don’t know why you’re being so aggressive. He’s not a great tap ruckman, it doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player. Big deal.

 

[Trav 20]

No, but I’m responding to you.



He has obviously won HTA before.

I don’t know why you’re being so aggressive. He’s not a great tap ruckman, it doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player. Big deal.

Aggressive ? I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm responding to a poster who said he NEVER wins hitouts to advantage. It's pretty obvious I'm calling out an inane comment.

Grundy's hitouts to advantage rate is around 30%, which is average.

His forte obviously lies in his overall hitouts dominance, clearance work and ability to become an extra around contests.

He'll have a better centre square midfield set-up at Melbourne, so it will be interesting to see the new dynamic.

 

[RJK Tiger]

’s a win for Melbourne either. It’s a lot of cap space tied up in two players, each of whom play the same preferred position.

I could see this being a lose/lose, but I can’t see how Collingwood win this one. Even if Grundy gets injured and never plays another game, that’s just bad luck and nothing to do with the trade.

Not really. If the Pie's medical staff saw something in him that suggested his body was toast - ala Dan Hannerby @ Stkilda - then obviously that will be a massive win for them

 

[Lampers]

Not really. If the Pie's medical staff saw something in him that suggested his body was toast - ala Dan Hannerby @ Stkilda - then obviously that will be a massive win for them

True, but it’s on the receiving club to do their due diligence on the injury front.

Richmond we’re ready to take Jack Trengove for pick 10 or similar, and their medical (correctly) scuttled the deal.

 

[RJK Tiger]

True, but it’s on the receiving club to do their due diligence on the injury front.

Richmond we’re ready to take Jack Trengove for pick 10 or similar, and their medical (correctly) scuttled the deal.

Yep, doesn't always work out like that. More than a few players have been traded in their time when their bodies, or minds were toast ( Hannerby, Yarran, etc )

 

[Vindicater]

Still feel this experiment will blow up. Both need to ruck 70% to be truly effective

 

[PieLebo87]

Still feel this experiment will blow up. Both need to ruck 70% to be truly effective

Pessimistic view.

Both, at their absolute best, are premier ruckmen not because of just what they do in the ruck contest but because of what they also add to the midfield mix around the ground.

Grundy at ground level and Gawn aerially are great for their size and adds an extra dimension to Melbourne between the arcs.

Outside of injuries, I don’t think it’ll be a flop personally.

 

[TakingThePies]

Moral of all this.


Do not let a president run the show.

 

[adammania9]

Going to be a very long 5 years for Demons supporters. Two games in and he has already transferred all of the issues Collingwood's midfield faced with him to the Demons, despite their superstar midfielders.

 

[Demon in Hell]

Going to be a very long 5 years for Demons supporters. Two games in and he has already transferred all of the issues Collingwood's midfield faced with him to the Demons, despite their superstar midfielders.

Thanks for paying $1.5m of his salary over those 5 years.

 

[adammania9]

Thanks for paying $1.5m of his salary over those 5 years.

You are most welcome. We'll enjoy every second of it

Also it ain't near that much but keep dreaming

 

[Demon in Hell]

You are most welcome. We'll enjoy every second of it

Also it ain't near that much but keep dreaming

Oh yes it is that much. If it was anything less you would have recieved pick 127, not pick 27.