Updated Bruce Lehrmann * Justice Lee - "Mr Lehrmann r*ped Ms Higgins."

[Kurve]

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LINK TO FEDERAL COURT DEFAMATION PROCEEDINGS

 

[insanity]

It dropped on me about an hour ago. What was happening? I heard Higgins is in the court today.

Yes she's there. Sue Chrysanthou was giving her opening. You could see BH behind her. Perhaps it was the end of the session, Imwas a bit behind in my watching.

I am not as knowledgeable as many here but my read was a very thorough review of what happened and almost felt as if it's re-addressing the actual rape case with evidence we should have heard.

 

[Festerz]

It dropped on me about an hour ago. What was happening? I heard Higgins is in the court today.

Ms Higgins started to give her evidence as the feed cut for me. Session is now over.

Done for the day. Returning 9:30am tomorrow (AEST) to continue witness examination.

 

[insanity]

Heard reports a fat man in a dark suit was seen diving into the telecomms junction box outside the Federal court with a chainsaw. That might be relevant?

I suspect he'd be desperate enough by now.

 

[insanity]

Ms Higgins started to give her evidence as the feed cut for me. Session is now over.

Done for the day. Returning 9:30am tomorrow (AEST) to continue witness examination.

So was it cut cause she was giving evidence or because it was the end of the day?

 

[Festerz]

So was it cut cause she was giving evidence or because it was the end of the day?

I was a few minutes behind on realtime so not sure - I assume a decision was made to end the session.

 

[insanity]

Or you could look at it less cynically and take time to appreciate how much work has gone into presenting such a thorough and well presented outline of a case so that everyone has a chance to finally see all the evidence and circumstances in context - with timelines and evidence presented in a way that should have taken place in the original criminal trial.

THIS is what our justice should look like for alleged victims of rape.

It's a pity that it takes a bucketload of corporate dollars (all tax deductible btw) to make it happen.

Interesting to see the same people who gobbled up the sycophantic Channel 7 Spotlight publicity show from earlier this year with glee are now getting bored with a proper examination of the evidence.

This 100%

 

[No Quarter]

Gee, in any party involved in this whole saga, it must be bloody draining.

And you can't simply walk away from it either, its intense.

 

[BFew]

Stream is still going for me (catching up on sleep) saying the stream still has about 48 minutes to run in the streamed live 6 hours ago
Chrysthanthou is up. It's definitely today's stream.
I already listened to this part on a different device just before I fell asleep.

Higgins sitting 3 rows from the back far left centre of screen.

Edit: 6:15pm AEST Higgins has just started to talk (be questioned) on the stand on my delayed stream.
Edit: 6:23pm AEST Higgins just finished up for the day and was told to come back 9:25am tomorrow

Good to know that if you put the stream on pause before it ends for the day, even after the stream is over for the day, it lets you watch it until the end (Or at least it did for me today).

 

[Gavin Excell]

Was Higgins appearance a surprise?
I thought she wasn't going to participate

 

[Kurve]

This has had 697 retweets

 

[Toump Ass]

I love how Channel 7 use the "Bruce wasn't paid to give this interview!" spiel, just a whole year's worth of harbouside accommodation.

Bunch of ****in' turnips I hate those people.

 

[Big_Birdy]

This has had 697 retweets

It’s a ridiculous comment.

The AFP would have sourced everything channel 10 have. The issue is its evidentiary value in a criminal trial. That’s even if it’s considered relevant enough to be used in a criminal case.

 

[insanity]

Was Higgins appearance a surprise?
I thought she wasn't going to participate

My understanding was she volunteered to appear.

 

[Festerz]

The AFP would have sourced everything channel 10 have.

How do you know that?

 

[insanity]

Question: do we know who is funding Bruce Lehrmann's legal representatives? It can't be cheap...

 

[Big_Birdy]

How do you know that?

From the trial. What’s the new evidence that’s actually been “sourced”?

 

[Festerz]

Rival media companies are taking aim at Stokes' & Network chicanery on its deal with Bruce Lehrmann for his Spotlight interview:

Just months ago, Seven insisted it hadn’t paid former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann for a sit-down interview with the network’s Spotlight program.


“7NEWS Spotlight made no payment to Bruce Lehrmann for the interview, however, the program assisted with accommodation as part of the filming of the story,” was the official line.

That piece of spin was blown up in the Federal Court on Tuesday, when, under cross-examination from barrister Sue Chrysanthou, Lehrmann admitted that the Kerry Stokes-controlled network was paying his accommodation costs for a year.

As for how much Seven is paying, well Chrysanthou seemed incredulous when Lehrmann said he didn’t know the figure in court on Tuesday. We reckon it’s not cheap.

Similar apartments in the Maroubra block where Lehrmann was living were being rented for between $1200 and $1500 a week. He’s since moved up in the world, to a northern beaches three-bedder with sweeping ocean views, where the rent recently doubled to $2500 a week. So for a whole year, we could be looking at six figures for the term of the year long agreement with Seven that expires in June 2024.

Seven pays for Bruce Lehrmann’s harbour views

The network is paying the former staffer’s $2500-a-week rent in Sydney’s northern beaches in exchange for an interview that landed a Walkley nomination.

www.smh.com.au

Edit: Sam Maiden, editor of news.com.au, joins in this morning with pictures of Lehrmann's residence taken from the News Ltd owned realestate.com.au:

To be clear. IMHO this is a cash for comment integrity issue that has very little to do with Mr Lehrmann and allegations made against him (be honest, who wouldn't take up an offer of a years prime beachside accommodation rent free if they faced a cash crisis?). But it shines yet another spotlight (pun intended) on the state of our media industry and its complicit role in this whole filthy saga.

 

[BFew]

I didn't know there was a limit to how much alcohol could be in your bloodstream in Australia, unless you are doing things like

• driving a vehicle
• riding a pushbike
• writing or editing MSM articles
• posting in the BF Crime threads

Higgins was clearly too pissed that night she was allegedly r*ped by Lehrmann to have done any of these activities, and evidence shows she was transported about by others (Uber) once pissed.

THE AUSTRALIAN newspaper now has all of Australia worried that they are breaking some law when they are pissed, regardless of what they are doing when pissed.

Not funny. Especially after watching the video of Lehrmann appearing to be positively attempting to get Higgins drunk like a sexual predator.

Cheers.

 

[Festerz]

I didn't know there was a limit to how much alcohol could be in your bloodstream in Australia, unless you are doing things like

Agree, on its own it's its a poor comparison. But there is a reason why all states and territories have BAC limits for driving, enforced by law, and it's all to do with the scientific evidence demonstrating that beyond that limit judgement starts to become impaired. And that the relationship between alcohol consumption and impairment is directly related to the body composition of the person consuming.

So the path that I imagine Dr Collins will take this is not around legality per-se but as a proven and well understood scientific benchmark (backed with the evidence of a qualified toxicologist) of the high level physical and mental impairment of Ms Higgins after consuming the level of alcohol that was shown to have been consumed in the videos - a number of alcoholic beverages that Lehrmann confirmed in his cross examination

This is not only not only in direct conflict with Lehrmann's claims about Ms Higgins not being drunk, but his direct role in getting her to that state prior to the alleged attack in Parliament House.

I also think it will also be used to explain why Ms Higgins personal recollections of what happened that night, especially in Parliament House, is confused other than her clear recollection of waking to find Lehrmann on top of her.

Lehrmann's prosecution counsel finally twigged on this line of attack after Dr Collins foreshadowed it in his cross examination which why he he brought Lehrmann back to the stand to ask him about the contents of those drinks that Ms Higgins consumed. Prompting Lehrmann to say that 'on reflection' he could not be certain that all the drinks that he saw Ms Higgins consume in the two night clubs that night all contained alcohol.


That is just my guess of course. We will see what happens from 9:15 today.

 

[jason_recliner]

I didn't know there was a limit to how much alcohol could be in your bloodstream in Australia... THE AUSTRALIAN newspaper now has all of Australia worried that they are breaking some law when they are pissed, regardless of what they are doing when pissed.

Not funny.

Eh?

 

[Kurve]

Question: do we know who is funding Bruce Lehrmann's legal representatives? It can't be cheap...

Kerry Stokes

 

[Hojuman]

5 x the legal limit is very, very pi$$ed. Surprised she could walk.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

How many times over the limit was Bruce?

 

[Carn The Berries]

I didn't know there was a limit to how much alcohol could be in your bloodstream in Australia, unless you are doing things like

• driving a vehicle
• riding a pushbike
• writing or editing MSM articles
• posting in the BF Crime threads

Higgins was clearly too pissed that night she was allegedly r*ped by Lehrmann to have done any of these activities, and evidence shows she was transported about by others (Uber) once pissed.

THE AUSTRALIAN newspaper now has all of Australia worried that they are breaking some law when they are pissed, regardless of what they are doing when pissed.

Not funny. Especially after watching the video of Lehrmann appearing to be positively attempting to get Higgins drunk like a sexual predator.

Cheers.

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I'm all for sticking the boots into the Australian, but I don't think you can pin this one on them. The lawyers for Channel 10 thought it was relevant enough to make the reference, the Oz is just picking up on it. It's not like they came to this conclusion on their own.

 

[Carn The Berries]

Lehrmann's prosecution counsel finally twigged on this line of attack after Dr Collins foreshadowed it in his cross examination which why he he brought Lehrmann back to the stand to ask him about the contents of those drinks that Ms Higgins consumed. Prompting Lehrmann to say that 'on reflection' he could not be certain that all the drinks that he saw Ms Higgins consume in the two night clubs that night all contained alcohol.

FMD... you know you're clutching at straws when your own counsel has to put you back on the stand and get you to hypothesise that "maybe" not everything Higgins consumed was alcoholic (though they most likely were).