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Hoos said:
Very impressive. Regardless of where your seats were, which was the best show (I'm assuming they were all very good at least), and did his set list vary much from year to year.

I get the feeling that Springsteen - like Dylan - is an artist who is constantly changing the set lists apart from a handful of non-negotiables.
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Yes.

13 and 14 were different tours.

Between night 2 and 3 in 13 there were 17 different songs played.
 
Cruyff14 said:
Between night 2 and 3 in 13 there were 17 different songs played.
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That's fantastic. I love it when artists play a lot of different material from night to night.

When the Stones came out in 1995, they did a similar thing at their two Melbourne shows.
 
Wasn’t it Born in the USA at AAMI the first night and then Born to Run night 2 in 2014?
I got BTR. It was great but because BIUSA was my first album as an impressionable 14 year old I was a bit disappointed. I bought the recording instead. Can’t believe it’s 10 years. Fml
 

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Gasometer said:
Wasn’t it Born in the USA at AAMI the first night and then Born to Run night 2 in 2014?
I got BTR. It was great but because BIUSA was my first album as an impressionable 14 year old I was a bit disappointed. I bought the recording instead. Can’t believe it’s 10 years. Fml
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Yes, correct.
 
pjcrows said:
Sunrise mentioned a February Australian tour this morning. It's happening.
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An announcement with dates and ticket dates can't be too far away if they're planning for February.
 
Cruyff14 said:
Yes.

13 and 14 were different tours.

Between night 2 and 3 in 13 there were 17 different songs played.
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I went to March 26th 2013 and he opened with Badlands... he did a lot of sign requests on that tour which mixed it up a bit. Cadillac Ranch, Downbound Train, Red Headed Woman & Rosalita were all sign requests.
 

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Yeah I've got my doubts.

Gundinski's son and others at Mushroom/Frontier wont take the risks Michael did with his 2013, 2014 and 2017 tours.

I don't think there is any other concert promoters in Oz who are prepared to risk it.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
Yeah I've got my doubts.

Gundinski's son and others at Mushroom/Frontier wont take the risks Michael did with his 2013, 2014 and 2017 tours.

I don't think there is any other concert promoters in Oz who are prepared to risk it.
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What's the risk?
 
Hoos said:
What's the risk?
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Money. Landau likes a lot up front for Bruce, plus with a 17 piece band, those costs are huge compared to a 5 piece band.

Bruce wont necessarily sell out his concerts here.

Kevin Jacobsen reportedly lost well over $5mil on the 2003 tour. Bruce got pissed off with him as he started to penny pinch.

It took Gudinski to work his magic, as he loved Bruce, to make 2013 work financially and they came back within 12 months because Gudinski did such a good job looking after Bruce / the E Street Band / his crew and management. And Gudinski did the 2017 tour as well, which didn't go as well as 2013 and 2014 tours.


If you watched the Ego: The Michael Gudinski story doco - you would have seen John Landau say that he saw Michael get into some very dark places. Landau didn't elaborate, but I am sure he was talking about money pressure.
 
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RussellEbertHandball said:
Money. Landau likes a lot up front for Bruce, plus with a 17 piece band, those costs are huge compared to a 5 piece band.

Bruce wont necessarily sell out his concerts here.
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I'm genuinely surprised at this. I thought he would sell out within hours.

Then again with such a large band, the ticket pieces would be excessive.
 
Hoos said:
I'm genuinely surprised at this. I thought he would sell out within hours.

Then again with such a large band, the ticket pieces would be excessive.
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I guess the question is can he sell out AAMI at $200 a ticket when you could be miles away. That’s the general feel of Gen X and above these days. Even though they are all cashed up (supposedly) the element of value for $ is a common whinge.

Might sell 1 out at AAMI

The other option is 4 nights at Rod Laver which does offer a better experience viewing wise, but that involves multiple nights in each of the capital cities

Must be tough being a millionaire and a billionaire and wanting up front payment
 
Gudinski passing away isn't a reason not to tour Australia. He was certainly the key factor in bringing Bruce back in 2013 after ten years, but the the 2013, 2014 and 2017 tours were very lucrative. However, if his tour model is 100% purely about cash, then yeah he might just stick with Euro and US markets.

But there's also a strong chance he uses Live Nation this time. They have done all of his US shows recently, and 90% of Europe.

Like I said, I have some info that it will be Feb/March, from a source I have found to be solid in the past.

For what it's worth, this time last year a February 2024 tour was all but locked in, however his health plus Adele's decline scrapped it.
 
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RussellEbertHandball said:
Money. Landau likes a lot up front for Bruce, plus with a 17 piece band, those costs are huge compared to a 5 piece band.

Bruce wont necessarily sell out his concerts here.

Kevin Jacobsen reportedly lost well over $5mil on the 2003 tour. Bruce got pissed off with him as he started to penny pinch.

It took Gudinski to work his magic, as he loved Bruce, to make 2013 work financially and they came back within 12 months because Gudinski did such a good job looking after Bruce / the E Street Band / his crew and management. And Gudinski did the 2017 tour as well, which didn't go as well as 2013 and 2014 tours.


If you watched the Ego: The Michael Gudinski story doco - you would have seen John Landau say that he saw Michael get into some very dark places. Landau didn't elaborate, but I am sure he was talking about money pressure.
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2017 they walked away with 50 million gross.
 
Hoos said:
I'm genuinely surprised at this. I thought he would sell out within hours.

Then again with such a large band, the ticket pieces would be excessive.
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Not within hours, but shows would definitely sell out and there would most likely be additional shows.
 

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