News Bucks set to get 2 year extension

[mike123]

I only had a few home made chock chip cookie's

What's the secret ingredient?

 

[Kappa]

For someone who doesn't want to turn this into a Buckley bashing thread you sure know how to put a negative spin on everything. Don't know why anyone would want to be a football coach when all people want to do is criticize?

It's a cut throat industry, most players are fired after 2-4 years, same with coaches. I don't think Bucks will be upset that some supporters want to see how he performs in 2016 before giving him another contract extension

 

[popin]

Should rename this to the Buckley coaching megathread now

Yep agree.

 

[popin]

What's the secret ingredient?

Secret herb's and spices like the kernel

 

[mike123]

I like how Buckley threads there are extremes and no middle ground. If you don't back bucks your automatically a MM supporter. If you have questions over his coaching ability you want him to be sacked.

 

[Kappa]

Yep agree.

Every Buckley thread you come in and whinge about Buckley v Malthouse and end up derailing the thread into the exact thing you propose to not want.

If you don't like these threads then maybe you should stop coming into them?

 

[motr]

Yep agree.

Hate these mega threads. Clicked on this thread because it was new news. Have given up on the old thread.

 

[popin]

Every Buckley thread you come in and whinge about Buckley v Malthouse and end up derailing the thread into the exact thing you propose to not want.

If you don't like these threads then maybe you should stop coming into them?

Thanks blaze036

 

[motr]

Would have thought this trade period has reinforced Buckley's direction for the club.

Can't fathom how anyone would demand immediate success from a club embedding two young ruckmen, whilst rebuilding a list and combatting injuries to key players.

 

[Greening Magic]

For those complaining that the club should wait for the 2016 season to be done before re-signing him, you haven't been watching the AFL industry and how it works recently.
Any loss under those circumstances gets blown out of proportion. There are 12654 AFL journalists and 24 hour news services to feed.
A couple of losses in a row means the media is camped out the front of training.
Players feel under siege, season gets further derailed by constant speculation, Supporters lose their nerve and often so does the club.

The decision before season 2016 begins is: Part ways now or extend now.
Before the predictable, "we should be better than that', well that's nice but not how it works.

Sign him up Ed.

 

[Rusty22]

fck yeah bucks!!!!

 

[surfer1]

Funny you should say that when we have literally gone backwards on the ladder every year under Buckley.

I have no interest in turning this into a Buckley bashing thread, but giving him another contract before we see how he performs in 2016 is pathetic.

If he performs well in 2016 I have no issue giving him the extension then.

Look the reality is that coaches often do not finish their contracts so why fret

 

[left at home]

l can see why the club would try and sign nathen up now. no circus media to contend with that goes with
delaying the extension. if they believe nathen is the right person to lead the club then now is as good as time as any.
as for going down the ladder, yes its disappointing but I can see the reasons for it and I believe they are the right reasons,
and the right path we are on. l also think bucks can coach and he would be pick up quiet quickly by another club.
so its a yes for me, sign bucks

 

[legendstatus]

Whats Malthouse got to do with extending Buckleys contract? Nice try to derail the thread

Your opinions and Kappa are not worth the effort I just put in to type this!

Shut the ..... Up.


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[BC__]

Would of liked to wait and see but can understand the club wanting to avoid the media shit storm that awaits an unsigned coach.
Buck's knows there's no hiding behind the word rebuild, youth ect next year.
We've landed the big fish and improved the list.
If there's little to no improvement this year i'd expect the club would have to seriously think about a payout.
That won't happen i believe, once we hit our straps i think we'll be the big improvers next year. Really looking fwd to seeing us taking the game on against the best sides.

 

[Ant85]

For those complaining that the club should wait for the 2016 season to be done before re-signing him, you haven't been watching the AFL industry and how it works recently.
Any loss under those circumstances gets blown out of proportion. There are 12654 AFL journalists and 24 hour news services to feed.
A couple of losses in a row means the media is camped out the front of training.
Players feel under siege, season gets further derailed by constant speculation, Supporters lose their nerve and often so does the club.

The decision before season 2016 begins is: Part ways now or extend now.
Before the predictable, "we should be better than that', well that's nice but not how it works.

Sign him up Ed.

That's how the industry works. You perform poorly, and the house tumbles on top of your head.

No poor performing club has escaped the media's scrutiny and intense external pressure (and that includes from supporters and members), and no contract is going to prevent that.

Do you think Collingwood supporters aren't going to be up in arms if we're bottom 6 next year?

I don't agree with a 2-year extension at this stage. All need to be held accountable, from players to coaches. If a player performs poorly for consecutive seasons, he gets traded or delisted. The same rule applies to coaches. I'm not stating that Bucks can't coach, but he needs to be measured by his performance and results, as all are in the industry. So far, that doesn't warrant a 2-year extension. A 1-year extension at most, but nothing more.

This extension just reeks of Essendon-style favourite son syndrome, and that's not the kind of culture we should be promoting at Collingwood.

 

[Kappa]

Look the reality is that coaches often do not finish their contracts so why fret

Then what a huge waste of the supporters membership dollars..

 

[Kappa]

For those complaining that the club should wait for the 2016 season to be done before re-signing him, you haven't been watching the AFL industry and how it works recently.
Any loss under those circumstances gets blown out of proportion. There are 12654 AFL journalists and 24 hour news services to feed.
A couple of losses in a row means the media is camped out the front of training.
Players feel under siege, season gets further derailed by constant speculation, Supporters lose their nerve and often so does the club.

The decision before season 2016 begins is: Part ways now or extend now.
Before the predictable, "we should be better than that', well that's nice but not how it works.

Sign him up Ed.

You're acting as though signing Buckley will stop any of those things, when we all know it won't...

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Malthouse had 11 years of faith. Would be great to see that kind of trust paid again.

 

[Greening Magic]

That's how the industry works. You perform poorly, and the house tumbles on top of your head.

No poor performing club has escaped the media's scrutiny and intense external pressure (and that includes from supporters and members), and no contract is going to prevent that.

Do you think Collingwood supporters aren't going to be up in arms if we're bottom 6 next year?

I don't agree with a 2-year extension at this stage. All need to be held accountable, from players to coaches. If a player performs poorly for consecutive seasons, he gets traded or delisted. The same rule applies to coaches. I'm not stating that Bucks can't coach, but he needs to be measured by his performance and results, as all are in the industry. So far, that doesn't warrant a 2-year extension. A 1-year extension at most, but nothing more.

This extension just reeks of Essendon-style favourite son syndrome, and that's not the kind of culture we should be promoting at Collingwood.

When a club doesn't sign a coach with a year left on his contract they are telling the football world, "We're not sure we've got the right man", "We're not sure of the direction we are heading". They're mistake is that they hedge their bets hoping for a good year.
What they should do is back their judgement. Extend the coach or sack him.
Most boards often don't have the balls for the latter, Fremantle you are exempted.
To not re-sign Buckley when the rebuild is in full swing would be an admission they didn't believe in the rebuild and if that's the case then they should walk as well.
I'm one that believes the club has done the absolute right thing over the past 3 years, the direction they taken is the one I wanted and to pull out now would be ludicrous.
If Buckley has this squad sitting 10th at the end of 2017, then feel free to lynch him Fed Square, I'll pull the trap door.

 

[jasonwilde]

I was all for waiting, but have changed opinion now.
What's the problem with extending his contract? As far as I can see, there are two:
1. it means he won't be motivated to work harder, knowing he's guaranteed a job
2. we would have to pay him out

And in response to these:
1. he's Nathan Buckley
2. we shit out money

A happy day for the Woodsmen

 

[76woodenspooners]

Don't know why some folks are getting their knickers in a twist over this

This changes nothing about how long Buckley will or won't be coaching Collingwood.

Pop Quiz: How will Buckley's continued tenure at Collingwood be decided?

Multiple choice:

(A) Some arbitrary expiry date on a piece of paper?

Or

(B) Winning and losing games of footy?

Some elevator music while you ponder that one ...

listen to this on Audioboo

Spoiler: Answer

B (how often have you seen a coach's tenure decided by an arbitrary date on a piece of paper)

Another question: How many games of footy have been played over the last few months? Games being won or lost that might affect Buckley's tenure? Hint: I'd happily lend you my fingers and toes to help you count them, but you won't be needing them.

All this contract extension has done is

(1) Bought the silence of any journo who might be tempted to ask Buckley during a press conference "Are you worried about your contract extension?". Or countless column inches about same. Or countless troll posts from oppo posters about same. We can all be thankful for that.

(2) Bought the backside of any player who might be inclined to think "WTF should I bust my backside for Buckley when he might not be here next year?"

(3) Bought a good night sleep for Aish, Trelaor and Howe, rather than having them lay at night wondering "Did I make the right decision coming to Collingwood given Buckley may not even be here next year?"

 

[Ant85]

When a club doesn't sign a coach with a year left on his contract they are telling the football world, "We're not sure we've got the right man", "We're not sure of the direction we are heading". They're mistake is that they hedge their bets hoping for a good year.
What they should do is back their judgement. Extend the coach or sack him.
Most boards often don't have the balls for the latter, Fremantle you are exempted.
To not re-sign Buckley when the rebuild is in full swing would be an admission they didn't believe in the rebuild and if that's the case then they should walk as well.
I'm one that believes the club has done the absolute right thing over the past 3 years, the direction they taken is the one I wanted and to pull out now would be ludicrous.
If Buckley has this squad sitting 10th at the end of 2017, then feel free to lynch him Fed Square, I'll pull the trap door.

I'm all for the need for stability. Now that Bucks has his list, there are no excuses.

But a 1-year extension is adequate. It says, "we're willing to back what you've built, but we need to start seeing results".

Finals 2016 is the litmus test, not 2017.

 

[TreloarTime]

2. we shit out money

There is a new football departmemt cap tax. If Buckley has to be paid out, that payout is included in the cap and when a new coach is hired, you are effectively paying out two senior coaches in your cap.

The money Collingwood had directly goes to the AFL then. We don't want to be paying larger sums of money to the AFL because the club is worried about some media noise.

 

[CFC2010]

Then what a huge waste of the supporters membership dollars..

Would you prefer that money (taxes) go to Brisbane or Carlton?

"If" Bucks fails the money is the least of our problems Kappa!