COLLINGWOOD. NEXT 5 YEARS?

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Yes, but Carlton's three are way better than our three, as charitable as you want to be to our guys. Weitering was AA this year and Curnow and McKay have three Coleman's between them.

I'm not including Howe or the rucks because they're not key position players and you're aware of that.

I feel like you're extremely focused on "on-field for 2025 alone" when I'm talking about taking 18 year olds in the draft and developing them for the future, so you have to compare apples with apples, so teams like Gold Coast (Walter/Andrew) and GWS (Cadman) makes an enormous difference.

Even if we compete this year with the group we have, we're in a dramatically worse position with our list than more than half the list in terms of actual key position players that aren't rucks or surprisingly good marking flankers.

We need to improve the tall talent position on our list. Even if we've got an old group that we can get by with for now.

I think we view the game differently.

I'm not aware that Howe plays a particularly different role to Moore for a start.

To me we've got blokes who play ahead or behind the ball and contest in the air when the ball is kicked long - as their primary task in that situation. And that definitely includes Howe - who plays a very similar role in a very similar way to Moore, despite the height difference. It also includes our rucks - we've got two who are a fair bit stronger than most in the air.

One of our strengths is that teams are in trouble if they go with long kicks into their forward line - as our defence monsters them. And ultimately that's the job of your talls, whether they get ticked off as being proper KPDs or not.

I did say that Carlton was one of the teams wwith stronger talls than us - just pointing out that it's not depth - which is part of your claim - it's that they have 3 stars nad TDK headding in that direction, whereas we have solid players - and one star in Moore.

I'm focusing on 2025 because i don't care that McStay, Mihocek, Howe, Cameron and Cox weren't on our list at 18.
 
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