Buddy Out - mental health issue, says club.

[Off The Couch]

We have precedent Hawks!
But you don't want to listen to me!

Totally off topic but please elaborate
Your post reeks of smugness - Longmire like really

Personally I don't think it matters - I'm sure he will be back playing next season

 

[Dusky]

Remember when buddy had a 6 week hamstring injury at Hawthorn?

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[GTOA]

What an absolute load of Crap

Who resents what he has achieved - most neutrals would say he is one of the most exciting players to watch - the only time they wouldnt find it exciting is when he is kicking bags of goals against the team you support

As for more the money he is getting - i couldnt care less if he is getting 1 trillion dollars a year - you make out that - apart from Lance and your good self - every other poster on Big Footy is a pauper - a loser in life and living in squalor - what a load of garbage

How i look at it - like Gunther 999 says in his posts - if he has got depression then no problem

But if the New Idea article is correct - then that is a total different situation ( a situation that you have totally dismissed in your posts on this topic) - and as a Sydney supporter or Sydney player i would be pissed off and felt let down

If the New Idea article is incorrect - Franklin should sue that organisation for every Tangible Asset theve got - lets see if he does

You believe New Idea?

Enough said then. There is nothing I can say to convince someone who believes anything that rag tells you.

 

[SBYM]

No part of a restricted free agent contract can be changed in regards to the salary cap for any reason.

"The AFL has confirmed that the Swans must include Franklin's contract terms in each of the nine years of the contract, irrespective of how long he plays."

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...n-later-years-of-megadeal-20131009-2v8qk.html

Didn't know that....

FMD...what a ridiculous gamble.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I agree. By not naming his illness, the club has left open the possibility that Franklin is a murderous psychopath. They've handled this well.

They made a film about it a while back, legal action by the Swans forced them to change the title to Bad Boy Bubby.

 

[innocentsmiles]

We have precedent Hawks!
But you don't want to listen to me!

They don't need to listen to you because Buddy was a restricted free agent whereas Sylvia was an unrestricted.
You can't take a restricted free agent and then change the payments / contract afterwards, what was said is set as it is then unfair to Hawthorn who could have matched the offer. They were priced out, they opted not to match, but you can't use that as a smokescreen and then change the deal.

For unrestricted free agents it don't matter.

 

[Gunstall555]

We have precedent Hawks!
But you don't want to listen to me!

No we don't have precedent and you don't want to listen to us! His contract still counts towards Freo's cap and he was signed as an unrestricted FA, not a restricted FA like Buddy. I hope the big man gets back out there, but like it or not you guys are stuck with his salary counting towards the cap for the rest of his contract.

 

[evo]

Didn't know that....

FMD...what a ridiculous gamble.

But as we seen all too often, when it comes to the AFL, rules are pretty fluid.

 

[vonn]

Would this make happy?

Absolutely

A strictly controlled press conference with 3 selected questions. Open and honest statememt, "Suffered deoression most of life, only came to realise the severity in the last 6 months. I'm trying my best to work through this. Can you please give me some space and i will reoay the faithful when i am better"

BOOM

Has the public lapping at his feet.


Not very hard is it?

I've refrained from posting much in this thread but that is an ordinary post. Buddy coming out and saying he has depression would make you happy? Is your desire for information unrelated to yourself so insatiable that you feel the need to intrude on a man's private business? It is none of your business who has depression, it doesn't matter how much of a public figure they are. Their salary or occupation is no justification for believing they owe the public anything.

 

[Xtreme]

I've refrained from posting much in this thread but that is an ordinary post. Buddy coming out and saying he has depression would make you happy? Is your desire for information unrelated to yourself so insatiable that you feel the need to intrude on a man's private business? It is none of your business who has depression, it doesn't matter how much of a public figure they are. Their salary or occupation is no justification for believing they owe the public anything.

He should bring awareness to it and not leave people second guessing or speculating the "true' issue.

 

[_jrtp09_]

I've refrained from posting much in this thread but that is an ordinary post. Buddy coming out and saying he has depression would make you happy? Is your desire for information unrelated to yourself so insatiable that you feel the need to intrude on a man's private business? It is none of your business who has depression, it doesn't matter how much of a public figure they are. Their salary or occupation is no justification for believing they owe the public anything.

His fans and supporters are in fact the public; does he owe them anything? Yes, he owes them an explanation, doesn't he? Complete transparency. Particularly at a time where there's been so much speculation thrust upon him and the club.

 

[LoungeLizard]

His fans and supporters are in fact the public; does he owe them anything? Yes, he owes them an explanation, doesn't he? Complete transparency. Particularly at a time where there's been so much speculation thrust upon him and the club.

I am fairly sure his fans and supporters are where he gets his wages from.

 

[tige19]

Buddy's not the sharpest tool in the shed, he likes to promote his label and promote his endorsements and engage with the public about that so he can make a million dollars but wants to completely refrain from any publicity when things turn a bit sour. If there is no issue regarding drugs/cheating/boozing then come out with a short statement and advise everyone about what is transpiring, the longer he leaves it the more this issue will snowball.

Surely someone not derelict is advising Buddy?

 

[caitsith01]

However, the swans may (and I only say may) if it got to it have rights under the doctrine of frustration under contract law and that doctrine would apply unless expressly excluded in the contract between the afl, buddy and the swans (the letter between hawthorn and the afl wont have any bearing on the contract).

I don't think this would fly, because what they were paying for was the right to have Buddy play for them when fit and available. They have already got a lot of the value they paid for, because he signed with them.

 

[Royal Flush]

No part of a restricted free agent contract can be changed in regards to the salary cap for any reason.

"The AFL has confirmed that the Swans must include Franklin's contract terms in each of the nine years of the contract, irrespective of how long he plays."

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...n-later-years-of-megadeal-20131009-2v8qk.html

What were the Swans thinking??
Is their not a veterans exclusion to a salary cap?

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[tige19]

What were the Swans thinking??
Is their not a veterans exclusion to a salary cap?

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They weren't thinking, possibly the greatest **** up in Free agency/Restricted FA history. I doubt there will be another stuff up quite like it.

 

[Royal Flush]

They weren't thinking, possibly the greatest **** up in Free agency/Restricted FA history. I doubt there will be another stuff up quite like it.

Surprisingly their fans seem to be supportive of it.
They deserve to be treated equally and suffer the consequences of this crazy decision. No bail out

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[rdhopkins2]

I wish Buddy the best for a full and speedy recovery.

Sydney took the gamble with the offer of a huge and lengthy contract. If Buddy doesn't win a flag/s for them, return to his best or potentially sadly never return at all, they shouldn't be bailed out though. Gambles work both ways; you win or lose.

 

[vonn]

His fans and supporters are in fact the public; does he owe them anything? Yes, he owes them an explanation, doesn't he? Complete transparency. Particularly at a time where there's been so much speculation thrust upon him and the club.

Buddy doesn't owe the public anything. He's a footballer and his profession is to play football. Just because certain stakeholders are invested it doesn't mean it's a reciprocal relationship.

 

[Adz]

The biggest trade blunder in AFL history. Got about 5 good games from him - and they were serviceable at best.

 

[jacqui9]

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The Swans aren't as stupid as you'd like to think they are.

Signing a player up for such a ridiculous deal was pretty stupid...

 

[Lester Burnham]

The more important question is do I care?

I've never understood the fascination with what the players do with their own time, or whatever they partake in. Their life, their choices.

When a player's off field activity interferes with his on field ability then clubs and fans will be very interested.

The other issue is of journalistic integrity. Some members of the media are so closely tied to the sport that they do not honestly report the full story.

 

[nickrebellious]

Didn't Bradshaw not fulfill his contract but you had him on the books til 2012? I remember hearing this as it was cap space freed to sign Tippett.

 

[Tedeski]

Love how excited the Hawk supporters are getting on here.

Sign of madness!

 

[SBYM]

The biggest trade blunder in AFL history. Got about 5 good games from him - and they were serviceable at best.

Let's not rewrite history here...

Didn't he pretty much beat Port on his own one game at the SCG?