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I genuinely lol'd. Started at least 25m further back than Franklin, and clearly ran faster.
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Buddy's Goal of the Decade?
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I genuinely lol'd. Started at least 25m further back than Franklin, and clearly ran faster.
How many games did Ahmed play in total???
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The running man kicked a few...
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And this bogan...
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This gentleman ran further than Buddy...
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SCG (think that's SCG isn't it?) = 153x137 (~147x131 playing field)
Grabbed the ball close enough to the boundary (lets say 10m in), about 20m forward of the 50m arc.
65m wide, so 55m from centre when he started. Kicked from approx 35m out.
147-(70+35)=47^ + 55^
2209 + 3025 = 5234
= 72m
I think when I did the same calculation for Franklin it was 83m, however that didn't include the fact Franklin run a curve, and Ahmat virtually a straight line.
I have my doubts the SCG 50m was accurate. Was it 40m? That would make the runs about the same.
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How about we keep it really simple? Ahmat got it a few yards outside defensive 50, and had had two bounces at pace by the time he reached Franklin's starting point. Unless the MCG is 200m+, Ahmat's is clearly further.
The only thing that your number of 83m (for Franklin's run) proves is that you need to brush up on elementary geometry.
The only thing that your number of 83m (for Franklin's run) proves is that you need to brush up on elementary geometry.
Okay, so Ahmat's goal is the only goal in which he was going slightly quicker than Buddy, but he only had to kick it straight through. By the way that wasn't even in this decade but nice try.
I already posted Mick McGuane's, I was the first person on this board who posted it, the reason I put it up as I said it's the only one I think is better. Yet McGuane was not travelling as fast as Buddy, nor did have to kick it from the boundary, so not so clear cut.
Bradley's goal he did not cover as much ground and did not run as quick. Bradley's for me is top 5 ever, whether you view Bradley's better can come to personal preferences.
McGuanes and Bradley were a while ago, how many decades on each one?
Lovett please. He ran the centre square, straight thorough it. Yes Lovett is quick but Hannebery did better this year.
Madden, no comment.
Nice try, some vain attempts at best. Regardless it appears we are clutching at straws as we keep this thread going.
I already posted Mick McGuane's, I was the first person on this board who posted it, the reason I put it up as I said it's the only one I think is better. Yet McGuane was not travelling as fast as Buddy, nor did have to kick it from the boundary, so not so clear cut.
Bradley's goal he did not cover as much ground and did not run as quick. Bradley's for me is top 5 ever, whether you view Bradley's better can come to personal preferences.
McGuanes and Bradley were a while ago, how many decades on each one?
Lovett please. He ran the centre square, straight thorough it. Yes Lovett is quick but Hannebery did better this year.
Madden, no comment.
Nice try, some vain attempts at best. Regardless it appears we are clutching at straws as we keep this thread going.
McGuane also beat 3-4 carlton players on the way into goal.. but lets not let that get in the way of a good story.
anyways most of those videos were probably posted in response to hawks supporter arrogantly thinking that nobody in the history of the game has actually had a few bounces of the ball while running, not so much to show which goals were better...
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Thank you everybody for your input.
The thread went mainly along Club lines which was not undexpected. I think everyone agreed Buddy's goal was fantastic but upon reflection perhaps my claim of G.O.D could have been blurred by my steamed up brown and gold glasses during the post match hysteria.
Opposition fans can be equally dismissive of great feats as it is hard for them to focus on anything but their own players. I ran into an Essendon mate of mine yesterday and asked him what he thought of Buddy's game, and he answered apart from his two goals he didnt see him all night! (this despite his 26 possies).
If nothing else the thread brought to light some fantastic (vintage) goals I had forgotten about, in particular the Ahmat and McGuane deserve special mention. Harry Madden's I wasn't so impressed with but each to their own I guess.
What a great game Aussie Rules is when a player backs himself to take on tacklers, run and bounce, and kick unbelievable goals.
Long live flair and improvisation, down with robotic, possession based boring football.
The thread went mainly along Club lines which was not undexpected. I think everyone agreed Buddy's goal was fantastic but upon reflection perhaps my claim of G.O.D could have been blurred by my steamed up brown and gold glasses during the post match hysteria.
Opposition fans can be equally dismissive of great feats as it is hard for them to focus on anything but their own players. I ran into an Essendon mate of mine yesterday and asked him what he thought of Buddy's game, and he answered apart from his two goals he didnt see him all night! (this despite his 26 possies).
If nothing else the thread brought to light some fantastic (vintage) goals I had forgotten about, in particular the Ahmat and McGuane deserve special mention. Harry Madden's I wasn't so impressed with but each to their own I guess.
What a great game Aussie Rules is when a player backs himself to take on tacklers, run and bounce, and kick unbelievable goals.
Long live flair and improvisation, down with robotic, possession based boring football.
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McGuane's goal happened in 1994, so that one doesn't even qualify for this decade. Same with Craig Bradley's goals from the 80's and 90's. Robbie Ahmat's goal of the year from 2000 was beauty, but not as good as Michael Mitchell's goal of the year from 1990
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We've probably seen just six or seven all-time great running goals in the past 33 years (since Phil Manassa's famous run). Buddy's goal sits comfortably with any of them. His goal was even more incredible when you take into account that he nailed a 2 bounce running goal from 50m a couple of minutes earlier and then contested two overhead marks (one free against and was awarded a mark) all a few moments before he took off on his 80 yard dash.
Mitchell and Ahmat may have started their runs from further back, but they weren't leading up the ground beforehand, nor did they win a contested possession, nor did they kick from a difficult angle. I can't recall anyone who has hugged the boundary line, ran as far as Buddy did (or as fast as he did) and then split the middle from "Daicos Corner".
Lot's of great running goals - Collingwood's David Twomey in the wet at Arden St is another which springs to mind. Like Buddy, he also bounced awkwardly and looked like he'd lose the handle at any second.
Buddy Franklin, Michael Mitchell and Mick McGuane all chanced their arm for those extra few metres, deep into enemy territory, rather than have a shot from 40-50m. I think this adds to their audacity and brilliance. You just don't see anyone carry the ball so far into the forward fifty, except maybe Boomer Harvey in junk time.
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Not a solo effort, but still a great running goal from Aussie Jones in the 1997 Grand Final
Now THAT goal is better than Franklin's.
****en Hawks supporters are all the same.
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Fairly handy hanger at the end of that clip too.
That aussie jones one is magic. Way to stand up under big pressure.
What's that?
On-topic, relatively balanced, intelligent and mature discussions?
Providing complementary and factual evidence to back up their statements?
Acknowledging other great goals for what they are, within the context of the discussion and their relative merits to the two kicked by Franklin?
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IMO this thread is a very good example of what all public forums face - the 10% of good posters produce 90% of the posts worth reading, whilst the majority defer to trolling, misinformed or downright insulting posts which add nothing to the discussion.
The ratio of good posters (and posts) to bad is always an issue on a public forum, however I think there has been an over-representation of poor posts particularly from the non-Hawthorn posters in this particular thread, which makes your outburst especially surprising.
Or not.
I forgot about Mitchell's, definitely one of the greatest, just amazing.
By the way just a few of the comments made after the Buddy goal.
"It's as good a goal as I have ever seen." Tom Harley.
"Were sitting next to Nick Maxwell who is doing the commentary for CH7 tonight, he, cant, believe it." Brian Taylor.
"I've never seen, two supporter groups stand and applaud." Brian Taylor.
"He has kicked two of the best calls one could hope for in their career and his done it in the space of four minutes." Graeme Bond.
"I've never seen anything like it." Gary Lyon
"That is as good as I have ever, ever seen." Main MMM caller.
"You won't see better." Robert Walls.
"It is one of the greatest goals you will ever see." Matthew Loyd.
Don't remember if anyone has posted this Phil Manassa's one, but this was in a Grand Final.
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Roby, there was also Robert Walls comment that went something like 'it doesn't matter what happens for the rest of the weekend, I'm happy now'.
Pity the 60m bomb from the flank in the first quarter didn't get much credit. If that had've been in the last quarter it would've blown the place apart.
Pity the 60m bomb from the flank in the first quarter didn't get much credit. If that had've been in the last quarter it would've blown the place apart.
All those comments in my previous post were after the second goal. Walls said that after the first goal that Buddy dribbled through. Yeah, Walls had said after only the first one, no way they would of know what was to come.
The 60m bomb was a beauty, and to think that a week before everyone was praising Podsiadly for a similar thing from 50m.
...you even get the odd one from Betts each week, goal of the year should be more of pure skill, rather than the luck of the bounce, that is why buddy's was unique
I liked Buddy's goal, not just because it leveled the score in the last quarter against our arch rivals, but because it was a running goal from the boundary.
I'm not talking one of those in a jam spin the ball through goals that occur each week by some Daicos wanna be, it was running absolutely flat out and because of the last bounce slightly toward the boundary.
Of the other goals of the year, I actually thought Mark Merenda's was better but that was it for mine.
The best goal I've ever seen on Tele was Brad Johnson's match winner out of the air with 3 Lions around him from near the boundary.. think it was robbed by Lloyds back heel.
The best goal I've seen live was a Nick Davis Torpedo in Round 22 Collingwood v Kangas in Canberra from about 75. Just one out of the blue. Actually saw his goal that beat the Swans in a Prelim Final in Sydney, his fourth for the quarter, special. Shame that guy appeared to be a knob.
Had Milnies goal while falling in the pocket gone through on the full and not been an inside out torpy that bounced the right way, it would have been better but some luck was still required.
Watch this weekend though and see how many goals are kicked by people running flat chat, see how many are kicked from the boundary, and see how many are kicked to level the scores in the last quarter. Each of those factors on their own make it a massive goal having all three together made it special for me.
Most other goals from the boundary, including Ackers one in the right pocket aren't flat out and he gets a fulls clean kick away.. hell I've kicked a couple of those, never kicked a running goal with a bloke chasing me for 60 odd meters to the boundary line then finished it. ( Though Acker along with Judd are two blokes that do kick goals while running flat out)
So yeah imo not the best I've seen, but sheit for the people saying it is a weekly occurence, enjoy the viewing this week to back that up.
I'm not talking one of those in a jam spin the ball through goals that occur each week by some Daicos wanna be, it was running absolutely flat out and because of the last bounce slightly toward the boundary.
Of the other goals of the year, I actually thought Mark Merenda's was better but that was it for mine.
The best goal I've ever seen on Tele was Brad Johnson's match winner out of the air with 3 Lions around him from near the boundary.. think it was robbed by Lloyds back heel.
The best goal I've seen live was a Nick Davis Torpedo in Round 22 Collingwood v Kangas in Canberra from about 75. Just one out of the blue. Actually saw his goal that beat the Swans in a Prelim Final in Sydney, his fourth for the quarter, special. Shame that guy appeared to be a knob.
Had Milnies goal while falling in the pocket gone through on the full and not been an inside out torpy that bounced the right way, it would have been better but some luck was still required.
Watch this weekend though and see how many goals are kicked by people running flat chat, see how many are kicked from the boundary, and see how many are kicked to level the scores in the last quarter. Each of those factors on their own make it a massive goal having all three together made it special for me.
Most other goals from the boundary, including Ackers one in the right pocket aren't flat out and he gets a fulls clean kick away.. hell I've kicked a couple of those, never kicked a running goal with a bloke chasing me for 60 odd meters to the boundary line then finished it. ( Though Acker along with Judd are two blokes that do kick goals while running flat out)
So yeah imo not the best I've seen, but sheit for the people saying it is a weekly occurence, enjoy the viewing this week to back that up.
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Buddy greatest player of all time
Buddy greatest 100 goalkicker of all time blah blah blah
