Can Richmond go back to back? # Did overconfidence cost them against Collingwood #

[This Is Anfield]

We do enough travel. Not something you guys like to think about, I know.

Hey! We played at Etihad.

 

[dean33]

This is not to sound like a defence mechanism, as we are hot favourites sitting on top of the ladder and I would be dissapointed if we didnt go back to back from here, but...

If Geelong could find a way to lose in 2008, Im sure we can in 2018.

Yep the cats saved their worst performance for the biggest stage that year and could happen to us as well. Or it might happen earlier in the qualifying or prelim and we might not even make it. It’s why you need to enjoy the ride along the way, like Saturday that last quarter was immensely enjoyable, and looking forward to the same on Friday night against a side who has dished it up to us for many years.
Enjoy the ride and hope it’s a great ending.

 

[kranky al]

Yep the cats saved their worst performance for the biggest stage that year and could happen to us as well. Or it might happen earlier in the qualifying or prelim and we might not even make it. It’s why you need to enjoy the ride along the way, like Saturday that last quarter was immensely enjoyable, and looking forward to the same on Friday night against a side who has dished it up to us for many years.
Enjoy the ride and hope it’s a great ending.

We felt like 2007 was shaping up to be at least a grand final appearance

Nek minut

Cuz injured judd injured - a coupla years later spoon.

 

[kaiserchief13]

I expected Richmond to have the mother of all premiership hangovers, to their credit they've come out this season even hungrier

Now given their form, relatively injury-free list and home ground advantage of the MCG - I can't really see any team beating them this September. The rest of 8 is just rag-tag to be honest. Collingwood have been good but injuries are mounting. WCE cant play away. Port aren't a threat. Bottom half the 8 - the Hawks are still in transition, Geelong rely on too few. We are mentally fragile. North/Syd/ etc are making up the numbers.

The wildcard is GWS - but I think that's a team Richmond would fear the least. Would be very lop-sides support in that match-up.

If I had to pick one team I believe that could beat Richmond on GF day its actually Norf - but they wont make it that far.

The best away record in the league = can't play away?

3-0 away against top 8 teams but don't let facts get in the way of your opinion

 

[dean33]

We felt like 2007 was shaping up to be at least a grand final appearance

Nek minut

Cuz injured judd injured - a coupla years later spoon.

That’s it kranky, you never know what’s around the corner so you need to enjoy the ride. Only one team gets to hold aloft the cup each year, they are so tough to win and if you don’t enjoy yourself along the way you might be waiting a very long time to smile.

 

[JohnZ]

Can they: yes
Will they: nah

Think gws will poach it from them ala Hawks 08.

 

[_jrtp09_]

Can they: yes
Will they: nah

Think gws will poach it from them ala Hawks 08.

They’re a genuine threat, probably somewhat underrated

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

I think so. They deserve it this year unless someone hits a strong vein of form.

 

[kranky al]

Can they: yes
Will they: nah

Think gws will poach it from them ala Hawks 08.

Be a great story.

If that happens i hope its by a behind kicked after the siren from outside fifty on the boundary.

 

[Zagami]

Be a great story.

If that happens i hope its by a behind kicked after the siren from outside fifty on the boundary.

by Deledio

 

[kranky al]

by Deledio

That would be a mean thing to suggest and i wouldnt do that.

By dusty kicking the wrong way.

 

[Blueyboy74]

This. Very much this. It's what must keep Richmond supporters up at night. It's the only hope us other fans can cling to.

I fully expect a Tigers flag from here, but stranger things have happened.

It's a totally different mindset this year compared to last for me as a supporter. This time last year I was really just thinking ''this is fun, I wonder when (not if) it will stop''. Even as we progressed through the finals it was more hope than expectation and deep down, right up to about halfway through the 4th quarter of the GF, I never really thought about winning as after so many years of false hope, ineptness, derision etc I was waiting for that 'Richmond Punchline' that would give the masses even more material to mock us once more.

This season and in particular the last 5 or 6 weeks I have found myself being concerned that if Team X plays this brand of football or if this, this and that happens then they can beat us ... instead of if we stay relatively injury free and do this & that well then they can't beat us. I only hope the players don't develop my mindset!

 

[Billy Not Really]

Can they: yes
Will they: nah

Think gws will poach it from them ala Hawks 08.

This.

I've pegged GWS to win the flag since the season started, and they've come good at the most opportune time for them. When they're at full strength and getting their best 22 on the park; they can beat anyone.

 

[THE_GUN]

The biggest advantage Richmond will have this year 'IF' we make the grand final is that we now know that we can win it and have been there and the nerves wont be as bad and it will be all about implementing the system that has been successful last year and served us well this year.

Team i wont want to meet in the GF : GWS Just way too much talent on the list to keep out of the game all game

 

[ARES]

Can they: yes
Will they: nah

Think gws will poach it from them ala Hawks 08.

Hawks outsmarted Geelong by keeping possession of the ball in their defense, there was a loophole that they exploited with class. And when the game looked out of Geelongs reach they "played with them"

GWS do not have a play to out play Richmond, it will have to be talent vs talent on the day.
Had they had all their gun talks available, then perhaps...

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

They’re a genuine threat, probably somewhat underrated

GWS have been flying under the radar for most of this season. A club laden with talent, they just need to start playing more as a team than elite individuals. It’s scary what a force they’ll be once they kick into gear which could be as soon as this years finals!

 

[Major Colvin]

The best away record in the league = can't play away?

3-0 away against top 8 teams but don't let facts get in the way of your opinion

That is surprising. A better analysis is the the Eagles simply aren't good enough to win the flag - and won't beat Richmond at the G

 

[kaiserchief13]

That is surprising. A better analysis is the the Eagles simply aren't good enough to win the flag - and won't beat Richmond at the G

Since you proved you have no idea what you are talking about, any opinion you supply further has no credence to it

 

[Dr Tigris]

Yes, most likely bet right now I'd say.

But quite a few teams capable of beating the tigers. Pies at their best, GWS and WC have the game to take us down. Cats will have to play perfect footy, but can do it. Port ditto, Melbourne have to play tough and they can do it. Reckon that's it.

Swans are cooked. If they turn it around they can go all the way, but the bottom seems to have dropped out.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Can’t see any interstate team bothering us at the G

 

[Grongey]

Richmond's flag to lose in 2018, they're playing better than last year.

A top 2 finish and home finals games - will make the Tiges tough to beat.

GWS are the main threat, although they won't get Patton back this year, or Setterfield. But Zac Williams might return, and hopefully Deledio and Griffen stay fit. On their day, the Giants are capable, and they're starting to believe

 

[Major Colvin]

Since you proved you have no idea what you are talking about, any opinion you supply further has no credence to it

I do though. The Eagles won't be able to beat Richmond at the G and therefore won't win the flag. It's a simple premise

 

[Final Siren]

This is not to sound like a defence mechanism, as we are hot favourites sitting on top of the ladder and I would be dissapointed if we didnt go back to back from here, but...

If Geelong could find a way to lose in 2008, Im sure we can in 2018.

A lot of people don't appreciate the difference between "the team MOST LIKELY to win the flag" and that team's chances of actually doing so.

Richmond are clear favourites at around $2.60, with West Coast next on $8.

But odds of $2.60 mean the bookies rate its chances around 40%. There's a much bigger (60%) chance of it NOT happening.

That's because if you add West Coast's chance to Collingwood's chance to GWS's chance... and so on... the total is more than Richmond's.

Richmond are favourites but it's still more likely than not that someone else will win the flag.

 

[Dr Tigris]

A lot of people don't appreciate the difference between "the team MOST LIKELY to win the flag" and that team's chances of actually doing so.

Richmond are clear favourites at around $2.60, with West Coast next on $8.

But odds of $2.60 mean the bookies rate its chances around 40%. There's a much bigger (60%) chance of it NOT happening.

That's because if you add West Coast's chance to Collingwood's chance to GWS's chance... and so on... the total is more than Richmond's.

Richmond are favourites but it's still more likely than not that someone else will win the flag.

Stop doing stats and logic. This is Big Footy

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Stop doing stats and logic. This is Big Footy

I miss Robey, he'd explain why under his awesome metrics the hawks are flag favourites