Can't explain it. Don't want him, don't think we need him. Cameron will put bums on seats.
And Nat Fyfe? We already have one ex-Docker who can't kick, why would we want another one?
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Can't explain it. Don't want him, don't think we need him. Cameron will put bums on seats.
And Nat Fyfe? We already have one ex-Docker who can't kick, why would we want another one?
He sells more than double the jumpers of any other player. Why do you think the AFL are throwing everything at him to go to GWS? He will make them the $12.5 million ten fold in his 6 years at the club and potentially make them self sufficient and not rely on further AFL funding.
People that go down the line of how he will impact on the field only understand football, not business.
People that go down the line of how he will impact on the field only understand football, not business.
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Really?. Go and ask a Sydneysider who Nat Fyfe and Jake Carlisle are.
They will not have a clue.
You don't get it either.
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No you have.
He is the biggest name in the game bar none.
GWS need to build profile and who better to do that than Buddy?
GWS need media attention, supporters, crowds attending games, merchandise sales, all the things our teams take for granted.
Where he plays or how he plays is largely irrelevant.
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They know who Jezza is. He will be our Marque player
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They want some quick fixes. Probably the 1st mistake (in my opinion besides Izzy) they have made.
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They need to build the club off field as much as on.
Crowds of only 5000 aren't sustainable for any AFL club.
He will be good for you boys.
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Good thing we were avging 12k then even with only 1 win and 100 point floggings.
Yes we do, building around a kid like Jezza and promoting him will help with this, also nothing builds a brand new club like success (hello Wanderers). I just think we needed players in other positions and all this talk of Buddy means we are not putting in the effort to the areas that are more important
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Can't wait to have this big strapping lad on our team.
He's a good looking guy, so he should have mass appeal.
He's a good looking guy, so he should have mass appeal.
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Apologies, I didn't realise it was that high.
Buddy to GWS will help build the crowds, get the bums on seats and help your club grow faster than any of the local kids could.
Yet to happen of course but it sounds increasingly likely that it will.
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In all honesty if the Perth Rugby side brought in a star player I hadn't heard of, who was past his best, I would feel no need to go to the game. This is a waste of money. They have too many forwards already and could have easily spent that on an A grade midfielder which they do need
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Apologies accepted.
I think success with our young players (plus a few well picked seniors) will bring the same thing.
You're right it would bring the same thing, but thats atleast 2-3 more seasons away
He is the biggest name in AFL where AFL is revered. In Sydney he is just a name that gets swamped by NRL names. In Sydney he is an also ran, he is nothing. He will be preaching to the converted. No one bar the converted gives a rats about buddy. Unless he wins games on a regular fashion and in spectacular fashion he will just be a lot of money spent getting little traction in a marketplace highly resistant and somewhat resentful to AFL.
They get Franklin, They Draft Boyd, They have Cameron and Patton. This is how it works...
1. They can handle one wanting to head home.
2. They can keep the best two if one/two happen to not turn out.
3. They end up with some enormous trade ammunition to go out and get the player/s they require down the track.
4. Franklin is a marketing tool and created interest and draws a crowd.
1. They can handle one wanting to head home.
2. They can keep the best two if one/two happen to not turn out.
3. They end up with some enormous trade ammunition to go out and get the player/s they require down the track.
4. Franklin is a marketing tool and created interest and draws a crowd.
You've summed up perfectly why I think it's really sad if he goes there...
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1. Arguably one of the biggest names in the game = Cash. Massive marketing opportunities. Kids love him. Have a look at all the Hawthorn kids and I'd reckon they'd all be wearing 23 or 33.
2. He's still the best forward in the game. Don't let 2013 fool you. He was forced to adapt to a gameplan where he isn't the #1 target let alone #2. He pushed up the field to drag their best defender up and allowed Hawthorn to isolate Gunston 1 on 1 or Roughead roaming in the forward 50. 60 goals is still a handy return for any footballer however with Buddy's incredibly high expectations it's deemed a shit year.
3. They need experience.
4. You can never have enough good forwards/midfielders/defenders/players.
2. He's still the best forward in the game. Don't let 2013 fool you. He was forced to adapt to a gameplan where he isn't the #1 target let alone #2. He pushed up the field to drag their best defender up and allowed Hawthorn to isolate Gunston 1 on 1 or Roughead roaming in the forward 50. 60 goals is still a handy return for any footballer however with Buddy's incredibly high expectations it's deemed a shit year.
3. They need experience.
4. You can never have enough good forwards/midfielders/defenders/players.
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Buddy will be on every billboard from here to Blacktown...
GWS home crowds to increase to 10K per game...
Buddy will put GWS on the map.
GWS home crowds to increase to 10K per game...
Buddy will put GWS on the map.
Why do GWS need Franklin? The same reason Gold Coast needed Gary Ablett
Shaking my head at most of the replies in this thread.
Buddy Franklin is worth it off field, AND on field. He has been the best forward in the game for a while and this is his worst year since 2007/2009 and he still kicks 60 goals and makes the AA squad. He probably would have won the coleman hadn't he missed games. He has not been the go to target at Hawthorn this year, that much is clear. Do you people honestly think Roughead and Gunston will back up their goal tallies with Buddy gone? All of a sudden they get much better defenders placed on them and the pressure is intensified on them to perform.
At GWS he is worth it because Jeremy Cameron will learn, and Jeremy Cameron will have the pressure taken off him. It doesn't matter which one gets the best defender, because the other will dominate. And then you realise Patton will get the 3rd best defender, where as at some other clubs Patton might get the 1st defender.
They don't have to draft Boyd, pretty sure they are looking to off load the number 1 pick for another solid player from another club. That would be great. No reason this wouldn't work:
HF: Buddy Patton
FF: Cameron
The only questionable thing GWS are doing is the length of the contract. 6 years is a long long time. I would give 4 years if I was them and maybe up the cash a bit.
Some short memories in this thread. Also some selective memories. I haven't even got to the off-field part where the AFL released a report saying he was the most marketable player in the game, more than twice as marketable as Cyril, who was in 2nd place.
EDIT: Lachie Whitfield will be the next Sam Mitchell and deliver it out lace out for years. Buddy will maintain form. Sure he isn't Tony Lockett or Jason Dunstall, but he should end up top 10-15 on all time goalkicking list, which definitely means he isn't an "average" player like you idiots are saying in this thread.
EDIT2: No I am not Sharrod Wellingham, Josh Gibson, James O'Connor, Quade Cooper or Buddy himself.
Buddy Franklin is worth it off field, AND on field. He has been the best forward in the game for a while and this is his worst year since 2007/2009 and he still kicks 60 goals and makes the AA squad. He probably would have won the coleman hadn't he missed games. He has not been the go to target at Hawthorn this year, that much is clear. Do you people honestly think Roughead and Gunston will back up their goal tallies with Buddy gone? All of a sudden they get much better defenders placed on them and the pressure is intensified on them to perform.
At GWS he is worth it because Jeremy Cameron will learn, and Jeremy Cameron will have the pressure taken off him. It doesn't matter which one gets the best defender, because the other will dominate. And then you realise Patton will get the 3rd best defender, where as at some other clubs Patton might get the 1st defender.
They don't have to draft Boyd, pretty sure they are looking to off load the number 1 pick for another solid player from another club. That would be great. No reason this wouldn't work:
HF: Buddy Patton
FF: Cameron
The only questionable thing GWS are doing is the length of the contract. 6 years is a long long time. I would give 4 years if I was them and maybe up the cash a bit.
Some short memories in this thread. Also some selective memories. I haven't even got to the off-field part where the AFL released a report saying he was the most marketable player in the game, more than twice as marketable as Cyril, who was in 2nd place.
EDIT: Lachie Whitfield will be the next Sam Mitchell and deliver it out lace out for years. Buddy will maintain form. Sure he isn't Tony Lockett or Jason Dunstall, but he should end up top 10-15 on all time goalkicking list, which definitely means he isn't an "average" player like you idiots are saying in this thread.
EDIT2: No I am not Sharrod Wellingham, Josh Gibson, James O'Connor, Quade Cooper or Buddy himself.
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I really don't think he's right for a club like GWS, considering where their list is at. Seriously, the Giants should just develop Jeremy Cameron, Jonathan Patton and (after drafting him) Tom Boyd. Buddy will just get in the way of their development, won't be there and/or won't be at his best when they're ready for a premiership tilt (which is 2018 onwards IMO), and won't provide leadership (a la Ablett, Judd) to make the spend worth it. Money is much better spent on midfield and defence, possibly on more than one player.
People can talk about marketing all you like, but considering Franklin's personality (or lack thereof), and the fact that AFL clubs are not private entities (and are in effect limited in their money-making scope, and on how they can spend it), and that the AFL are invested in Western Sydney for the long term, and aren't going to just let the Giants die if they don't turn a massive profit, GWS will not sink or swim on the back of Buddy.
TBH, the whole situation just reeks of Warwick Capper to Brisbane, and if anyone can recall/knows how that all went down, it wasn't good at all for player or club.
People can talk about marketing all you like, but considering Franklin's personality (or lack thereof), and the fact that AFL clubs are not private entities (and are in effect limited in their money-making scope, and on how they can spend it), and that the AFL are invested in Western Sydney for the long term, and aren't going to just let the Giants die if they don't turn a massive profit, GWS will not sink or swim on the back of Buddy.
TBH, the whole situation just reeks of Warwick Capper to Brisbane, and if anyone can recall/knows how that all went down, it wasn't good at all for player or club.
