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Can Sydney keep Warner and avoid more trade bans?
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The premise is Sydney fans want an excuse to whinge about something that hasn't happened, and is not likely to happen.
Why the fans of the top of the ladder side feel the need to have a sook about a hypothetical is beyond me but they do seem to go for a collective victim mentality.
Perhaps Pies fans can start a thread complaining about if they were stripped of the 2023 flag.
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Boring cop out. Victorian f/s prospects no doubt end up at the "footy factory" private schools, where they get elite training. Should Blakey (or the Hodge kid in bris) be excluded from elite training opportunities just because of who their dad is?
(The premise of this thread is garbage btw but just like any Sydney MB thread it's just a shit fight about academies and cola)
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Well the idea that you have this kid from the age of 6 or 7, and somehow they are going to be lost to the game if they can't remain in their home state is ludicrous to me. But if that's the case so be it, let them play RL.
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Eventually it gets to the point where the local team can't take every academy pick in that year so they get picked up by other clubs and strengthen the whole league.
There's not enough Victorian talent to prop up 20 lists around the country. The more nsw and qld kids that end up on lists the better the talent pool in totality. Rising tides lift all ships, or whatever
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Oh my god, that is no argument at all. The idea that the AFL cannot fund development of football talent in NSW and Qld without somehow outsourcing to its own franchises and consequently compromising the equity of its greatest equalisation measure is just idiotic.
But as they are just as wedded to this stupidity as the father-son, I wish they should bring back the NGAs, and limit every club to one single first round F/S or academy pick. You have to use this year's pick if you have it, next year's if you don't. Limit the whole ****ing thing to one free kick every year or two.
They have a salary cap squeeze also because of all the free agents they are paying.
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And no doubt they will have plans to top up again.
Maybe limit the number of free swings per season when adding academy, father sons and free agent. That applies to all clubs.
Clubs are limited to two free bites of any academy, father son and or free agency selections per draft. And clubs need to use a minimum of three live picks.
Maybe the AFL allows clubs so many priority access rights to players over a 5 year period. Basically restrictions to how much priority access benefit can any club get.
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At least try to remain consistent.
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Mmm i get it, and i understand your post isn't exactly a thesis on the topic, but i think you'd need some sort of balance if you've been forced (or decided) to trade out multiple players.
Like that Brisbane exodus. Should they be forced to use picks 68 and 69 on kids that will likely play magoos for 2 years then get delisted because they've had 5 players ask to leave at once
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At least try to point out the inconsistency.
You remember the last few attempts of the AFL to run the elite talent pathways in NSW?
The NGAs are still around.
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No. They must have been some time ago. If the AFL cannot run an elite talent pathway that ends in the open draft in 2024 it doesn't deserve to exist.
Regardless, the AFL could give it a go. It would be either somewhat better or somewhat worse than the current model, but it would have the great advantage of being fairer.
Okay, but as it stands the AFL couldn't, and the clubs put in **** all effort with the NSW rookie system. 2 for 2 in terms of failures there.
The entire competition is inherently unfair, from the fixture to the travel load, to the concentration of talent, opportunities linked to football and availability of coaching staff. Most of this is weighted towards Victorian teams.
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Exactly. But every one of the examples you cite is consequential to a national football league. They are not systemic inequities imposed on the league by itself. It should be beholden on the AFL to focus on addressing those issues which as you say are inherent, rather than introducing its own.
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It shouldn't be up to the clubs, that is not the dominant AFL model because we have a draft. If the Northern clubs want to do it, simply to improve the talent base in their home states, they should be funded to do so. It shouldn't be tied to access to those players. To be honest I think it would be desirable for those clubs, without requiring any incenitivisation in the draft.
How do you propose the AFL address the imbalance and concentration of talent in the league if not allowing them access to the few home state players that come into the draft?
If we didn't have access to our academy players, without having to reach, we would have been able to draft Campbell. Not a lot going on there for setting up the talent pathway in those areas.
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You'll have to enlighten me on the talent concentration problem and how academies resolve it, because I thought you were talking about the ability of big clubs to attract free agents and trade targets. Do you instead mean that most of the talent is in Vic/SA/WA? Why is that a problem, apart from the obvious desirability of increasing participation in the sport everywhere?
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I don't understand your point. Are you saying you would have selected Campbell instead of McDonald if the academy system was not in place?
Because building and maintaining a team from mostly interstate players is more difficult than doing so from home state players?
I don't know, but Campbell is the only academy player who would have been available to us if we didn't get matching rights.
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Ah well, the comp needs evening out anyway
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Really? On what basis do you believe that to be true?
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The balls on these Swans fans... to whinge about being done over by the AFL
This is a joke, right?
Talk about people living in alternate realities and spreading "fake news"
Including this season, the mollycoddled Swans have made the finals 19 times in 22 years.
It's probably written in the AFL's tv contract with Channel 7 that we can't have them finishing down the ladder with a half empty SCG. Friday night footy with Swans vs Pies/Blues/Bombers/Cats/Tigers is one of Channel 7's golden geese in the TV ratings.
I look forward to the day when the AFL removes all the recruiting concessions, ambassador payments, salary cap swindles, special handouts, favours, inside info, and just makes it a level playing field with the same rules & opportunities for every club.
It's a dream I have... Probably never happen... The AFL is all about money & maximising their revenue
But I'm allowed to dream.
Every club has academies and ambassadors.Every club gets money from the afl, some need to sell games and take money from the government.
Having said that this thread is lame.
But your post is up there for stupidity.
Because it's easier to keep a player in a city where their social and family networks are. Because there have been repeated cases of high draftees saying they don't want to leave their home state. Because recruiters have mentioned preferring the home state option if a choice came up between two equal players.
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