Can you beat Judd's time?

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Originally Posted by dylan123
van berlo got 9.46 today and burton holds club record at 9.36:eek:(not this year though)

be interesting to see what they could get a few rounds into the start of the year when they would be at their best.

that is over a shorter distance

Yes it is shorter by 200m but add roughly 25 - 30 seconds for the extra 200m and they are still faster than Judd. We also have Gallman and Gill who did 3km in less than 10 mins so they would also do 3.2km in about the same time as Judd.
 
agreed. I ran a 12 something in like yr 9 and i asked him to pump it up to 21. WOW! i couldnt even do it in a recovered state. its not possible.
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David Beckham has finished the beep test.

Chuck Norris did so well in the beep test that instead of the time intervals getting shorter they actually started getting longer.
 
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This thread is hilarious.

Ill be honest and say i have no chance of getting anywhere near Judd's time. I would prob be closer to the 20 minute mark than 10.

Have to laugh at the people who think running downhill is so easy, and that running up hill, then downhill for the same distance and gradient will equal it's self out to be like running flat. Comedy Gold guys! Keep it up:thumbsu:
 

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It's a good time, but only for a footballer.

10 and a half minutes for a click over 3 k is really nothing special.

My old man was doing times like that in his 40's as a fun-runner - and doing them in training.

3 and a half minutes per k is nothing special kids.

Granted, he's a CHAMPION footballer.

But I could have knocked him off when I was 14 and today, in my late twenties with an impressive drinking record, a liking of Winfields and no training, I'd still come close. Very close.
bullshit
 
Can you beat Judd's beep test?

What's your personal best? And what's the best ever?
And for the fitness freaks, can you beat Judd's 15.1 that he got in 2001 as an 18 year old draft hopeful?

I believe people can relate to this better as more people have completed a beep test in their lives compared to the princes park 3.2.

I was going to put it as "can you beat the best recorded afl beep test?" but that goes to Tom Rischbieth at 15.08. However, he's a random and there is an interest in Judd.
 
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bigfooty user: Just gotta get back into a bit of running, bit of a change of diet then I could do it - easy as piss.
 
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If I ran my very best around a track i could get close to 11 mins, but thats pushing it very hard.
 
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i got a 10.7 and am only 14. figured i could probably go close to 15 when im 18.
 
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I used to work with Juddy at Mcgilvray over the summer break.

Personally I've peaked at 14.1, now Im around the 13 mark.

I will tell you one thing, choose to believe me or not, couldnt give a flying Belgian, that man is a freak.

We would be running in 38 Degree heat, 3k at a steady pace as a warm up, then laps of the racing track near the Rugby ovals, with one minute intervals. He could sustain a blistering pace for 8 sets at a time.

He crosses every t and dots every i. Everything he does is with purpose, the 400 metre sprints were to simulate covering his man, then peeling off then covering. Minute break is the stoppage time in between.

I never kept up, though I think I kept my honour.

He's a freak, and anyone who can claim to get close to him is doing very well.
 
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if i ran my very best around a track i could get close to 11 mins, but thats pushing it very hard.

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bigfooty user: Just gotta get back into a bit of running, bit of a change of diet then i could do it - easy as piss.​
 
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You gotta love anyone who says they could get close being shut down straight away.... :rolleyes:

If someone was serious about their running, they could probably beat it. You don't need to be an AFL player to a good athlete....
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble but this is a common misconception.

Firstly we can assume that wind resistance is equal in both scenarios.

So when you are running uphill you need to produce a force in the forward direction as well as to counter a larger fraction of gravity (downwards) than as if you were running on a flat. Therefore the first part of the uphill will be slower compared to the flat course however things change in the second half. When coming downhill that same portion of gravitation force, which is a constant, that you were fighting against is now helping and you are running faster than someone on the flat course.

The reason running tracks are flat and not hilly is for practical reasons only. A 400m running track has to service events that are a fraction of 400m, but that doesn't detract from the fact that physics and the laws that govern the conservation of energy, work and momentum do not lie.



Alright my turn to tell you why you are wrong.

The principle of conservation of energy is "the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant." The key word in this phrase that you are ignoring is isolated. When a runner is running, the environment which he is within is not closed. There are many external factors which impact on the runner which you have not accounted for including the body turning stored energy into heat and sweat which means the body is losing mass.

You also state that wind resistance is the same going up and down the same hill. Thus you are pushing against more wind resistance going up the hill than going down because wind resistance is the same but the speeds are different.

Assuming that in the case of momentum you are talking about the law of conservation of momentum which states that "The total momentum of any group of objects remains the same unless outside forces act on the objects ." Again you are missing the point that the law only applies to a closed system for which a runner running up and down a hill is not, except in theory.



I guess they also have physics classes to supplement the athletics.

Well since we live in a democracy looks like I'm out voted considering the 2 guys who would back up my argument are dead. You may have heard of them, one's called Newton the other is Einstein.

On a more serious note though, lactic acid build up has recently been proven to not be the cause of muscle failure as was the old theory. It is actually the opposite, lactic acid can be used as very valuable fuel source for the muscles. Secondly traction will be improved going up hill as you not only need to push backwards to move but also down to counter gravity. On the downhill if traction was a problem it means you would be sliding downhill which if became severe enough would mean you were no longer running but free falling."

Now to tell you why you are wrong in your next post. Your first statement "I guess they also have physics classes to supplement the athletics." Practical experience is always more valuable than inapplicable physics theories.


Secondly you talk about how you gain more traction going up hill but going down hill you don't lose traction. Whilst this supports your point it does bring into question that going up and down hill are not polar opposites. Meaning that different factors affect both scenarios at different levels.


Finally you talk about how Einstein and Newton would support you. Whilst Einstein's physics was totally unrelated and applied to relativistic physics(another reason why you are wrong even though it is on a minute level). Newton would of just called you a ********.
 
Re: Can you beat Judd's beep test?

I used to work with Juddy at Mcgilvray over the summer break.

Personally I've peaked at 14.1, now Im around the 13 mark.

I will tell you one thing, choose to believe me or not, couldnt give a flying Belgian, that man is a freak.

We would be running in 38 Degree heat, 3k at a steady pace as a warm up, then laps of the racing track near the Rugby ovals, with one minute intervals. He could sustain a blistering pace for 8 sets at a time.

He crosses every t and dots every i. Everything he does is with purpose, the 400 metre sprints were to simulate covering his man, then peeling off then covering. Minute break is the stoppage time in between.

I never kept up, though I think I kept my honour.

He's a freak, and anyone who can claim to get close to him is doing very well.

Was he doing these sessions during the post-season break or fitting them in with off-season / pre-season training with WCE ?
 
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Was he doing these sessions during the post-season break or fitting them in with off-season / pre-season training with WCE ?

Post Season break. Did it in his own time, off his own back. Have no doubt he would have done about three practice 3km time trials before the official Carlton lap around Princess Park.

His words, not mine " Gotta keep the edge."
 
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That's pretty insane (the consummate professional) especially considering how many of his team mates would've been at the pub all day. Did he do much short sprints or weights work ?
 
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That's pretty insane (the consummate professional) especially considering how many of his team mates would've been at the pub all day. Did he do much short sprints or weights work ?

I only did track work with him, so I cant comment on the weights side of things. Before he headed over East a nice plasma he won landed at my doorstep.

Im a little bias, Im sure other blokes put in the same amount.

I've got a lot of time for Juddy.
 
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I got 11.4 in year 8, and if I was allowed to run atm, I would break that comfortably.

Haven't done one since...
 
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Hi Guys, I'm using my dad's post, I'm 13 and did a 12.4 back in March this year. I would like to go better than this because I am fitter now than back then. I also ran 11.05 for 3k's.
 
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Would like to think I can beat him one day.. I did 13.1 earlier in the year and I am 14.
 
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Did the whole range of testing last night for footy training (the kind of stuff they do in the draft camp - beep test, 20m sprint, standing leap, etc). The idea is we are meant to improve on our times/measurements by the end of pre-season.

Did a 13.3 in the beep test which is better than I thought I would, but I'm already pretty fit so don't think I can improve that much.

So no - I can not beat Judd - but I am 30 so I should get some sort of age handicap.;)
 

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