Carey Named Best in AFL Era

[lionel_luthor]

I've seen some idiotic posts in my time, but this has taken it to a new level.

Well done sir, you have just cemented the fact all Carlton supporters are brain dead morons, sorry to the rest of you blue fans, but I'm including you all with him, that's how stupid he is, he has taken an entire supporting base IQ down.

I am not here to slag off Hird, but Carey played at a more consistent and dominant level for longer than Hird. Injuries marred the last 3 or so season's Hird played, which wasn't his fault. In any case Carey is the best player I have ever seen, no shame ranking Hird below him.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Buckley was a good player, as was Harvey but they don't even come close to the rest of the players in that list. Sorry!

You don't need to apologise, as I doubt anyone will take what you're saying here remotely seriously, or as being correct, especially since the ones that put them on that list actually played against them and/or with them and hence would have far, far greater understanding of how good they were and how much they influenced games than you're likely to have.
Multiple All-Australian's, Brownlow votes galore and so many other individual honours and medals it's not funny also don't tend to lie, or be full of shit.
Your post was good for a chuckle, though, so thanks for that!

 

[courtjester]

Best Key Forwards
Carey
Ablett Sr.
Lockett
Dunstall
Tredrea

Best Key Defenders
Scarlett
Fletcher
Jakovich
Silvagni
Leppitch

Best Midfielders/Flankers/Pockets
Williams
Judd
Ablett Jr.
Harvey
Cousins
Hird
McLeod
Matera
Buckley
Voss
Akermanis
T.Watson
Wanganeen
Akermanis
Goodes
Black

Best Rucks
S. Madden
Cox
Salmon
Sandilands
Rehn

 

[Quivorir]

Yep, seen it the first time you posted it CJ

 

[Slattery_20]

Wow poor defenders didn't even crack a mention from any of the voters.

Glen Jakovich is "touted" to have been one of the only players that could match or beat Carey and he didn't get a single vote. What a shame.

Buckley was a good player, as was Harvey but they don't even come close to the rest of the players in that list. Sorry!

Cameron Bruce tagged Hird in his heyday; Mark Bolton went with & beat Goodes at his best; pretty sure Pev tagged crap out of Judd; Denham beat Diesel again & again... all-time greats...

 

[Spector]

Not saying they necessarily needed to have a defender in the top 10 but to barely even get a vote from any of those guys (Silvagni, Jako, <pick any other great defender>) is disappointing! I think Silvangi got 2 votes?!

 

[DapperDon]

I am not here to slag off Hird, but Carey played at a more consistent and dominant level for longer than Hird. Injuries marred the last 3 or so season's Hird played, which wasn't his fault. In any case Carey is the best player I have ever seen, no shame ranking Hird below him.

I'm not disputing Carey is better than Hird, I'm disputing the comment that Hird had no leadership abilities and never inspired his team mates. Carey is by far the greatest I've seen.

 

[invinciBlues]

Cameron Bruce tagged Hird in his heyday; Mark Bolton went with & beat Goodes at his best; pretty sure Pev tagged crap out of Judd; Denham beat Diesel again & again... all-time greats...

Thats nice matey. Jakovich was a quality CHB who played on some all time great forwards (not just Carey ) and had their number more often than not.

He struts past the likes of Scarlett, Fletcher and Glass into the top 5 of AFL era KP backman.

 

[mb0y]

Cant believe how underrated Rob Harvery is.... In the days where rules were still a bit loose and play was a still dirty, Harvey was solid and could break any tackle, gut run any opponent tagger and hit a target lace out with every kick, both sides. In a horrible team, he would be tagged, scragged, double teamed, physically challenged yet still performed week in week out. He was always true and fair and played the football, a gentlemen amongst cavemen, all class.

This coming from a roo supporter, truly underrated champion of our time. I would rate him above Voss, hird and buckley for his sheer consistency and how he went about his business... he was the quintessential model ruck rover of the vfl/afl game, and you cant put that label of any of the 3 i just mentioned.

As for the schmuck who insisted there are 30 better players between Harvey and Dunstall, you've either forgotten your medicine today or your about 17 years old kiddo, get a clue because I doubt you've ever even seen Harvey play mate.

 

[Krakouer stiffy]

carey is def not number 1 for crying out loud. Has to be Danny Dickvoss.

 

[10571z]

Bucks tore up a contract to go to North (while he was still in SA) as well.
Remember, he went to the Pies to play finals footy.
Gold to this day.
Missed 3 flags @ Bris and 2 @ North.

I didnt know about that. Karma?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Mark Ricciuto was a better footballer than both Harvey and Buckley.

 

[Slattery_20]

Thats nice matey. Jakovich was a quality CHB who played on some all time great forwards (not just Carey ) and had their number more often than not.

He struts past the likes of Scarlett, Fletcher and Glass into the top 5 of AFL era KP backman.

And he'd still be way, way, way, way behind the top 10 on any measure I can think of other than 'gotta include a defender, surely'. I'd have neither of them anywhere near my top 10.

 

[Slattery_20]

Best Rucks
S. Madden
Salmon

In the AFL era (ie post 1990) ??

I'd have to have Wynd in there and maybe even Brendon Lade.

Cox & Sandi would take the top two, though, and easily.

 

[cos789]

Thats nice matey. Jakovich was a quality CHB who played on some all time great forwards (not just Carey ) and had their number more often than not.

He struts past the likes of Scarlett, Fletcher and Glass into the top 5 of AFL era KP backman.

I'd agree with that .

As the title uses the word "best" I'd agree with the results also .

If the title used "greatest" I'd look more closely at use of the available natural talent .

e.g. a Paul Kelly , Diesel would be higher up the list .

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I haven't seen any1 except an Essendon supporter dispute what I've stated so far. Proves I'm right and that my opinion is correct, as opposed to yours.

I read it, and thought it was so self-evidently such a ridiculous, stupid comment that I didn't even deign to reply to it or give a person capable of such stupidity the time of day.

 

[invinciBlues]

And he'd still be way, way, way, way behind the top 10 on any measure I can think of other than 'gotta include a defender, surely'. I'd have neither of them anywhere near my top 10.

The argument is: If Carey is the best player ever (as some claim), then why doesn't the guy who won more battles against him than lost get a nod?

Think about it, How can Carey be the best when there's an elite CHB who can claim to have bested him?

Mind you, I don't care if everyone says Carey's the best ever, but surely Jakovich has met the requirement to be mentioned in threads such as this...

 

[Teffy]

The argument is: If Carey is the best player ever (as some claim), then why doesn't the guy who won more battles against him than lost get a nod?

Think about it, How can Carey be the best when there's an elite CHB who can claim to have bested him?

Mind you, I don't care if everyone says Carey's the best ever, but surely Jakovich has met the requirement to be mentioned in threads such as this...

Your failure to comprehend the differences in ability required to play forward and in defence show that your football IQ is sadly deficient.

Carey could have done what Silvagni did, and do it far better.

Silvagni could never do what Carey did, year in, year out. If he could, then Stephen Kernahan would have been a full back.

 

[Teffy]

I'm not disputing Carey is better than Hird, I'm disputing the comment that Hird had no leadership abilities and never inspired his team mates. Carey is by far the greatest I've seen.

Hird was a champion in every sense of the word. It's absurd for anyone to suggest otherwise.

End of story.

 

[invinciBlues]

Your failure to comprehend the differences in ability required to play forward and in defence show that your football IQ is sadly deficient.

Carey could have done what Silvagni did, and do it far better.

Silvagni could never do what Carey did, year in, year out. If he could, then Stephen Kernahan would have been a full back.

Jeez, you north supporters get precious when people talk about Carey. Any suggestion that maybe he wasn't the most absolute perfect footballer ever and the claws come out.

 

[Teffy]

Jeez, you north supporters get precious when people talk about Carey. Any suggestion that maybe he wasn't the most absolute perfect footballer ever and the claws come out.

I just find it slightly annoying that you would have to have the unbelievably bleeding obvious pointed out to you.

Stopping a bloke getting the ball is exponentially easier by a significant factor, when compared to actually getting the ball with another bloke solely dedicated to stopping you achieving that aim.

 

[invinciBlues]

I just find it slightly annoying that you would have to have the unbelievably bleeding obvious pointed out to you.

Stopping a bloke getting the ball is exponentially easier by a significant factor, when compared to actually getting the ball with another bloke solely dedicated to stopping you achieving that aim.

I agree wholeheartedly. How guys like Ablett, Lockett, Hudson, Daicos ever dominated defenders just boggles the mind. Anyone can play defence, you just need to stop the forward which is a relatively easy task (exponentially and significantly ) as you've just pointed out.

Listen mate, I think all this talk of Carey has got you worked up a bit. Why don't you go rub one out and when you come back, we can continue this when your hormones aren't so raging?

 

[Slippery Pete]

The argument is: If Carey is the best player ever (as some claim), then why doesn't the guy who won more battles against him than lost get a nod?

Think about it, How can Carey be the best when there's an elite CHB who can claim to have bested him?

Mind you, I don't care if everyone says Carey's the best ever, but surely Jakovich has met the requirement to be mentioned in threads such as this...

This post shows an apalling lack of understanding of the game.

 

[Slattery_20]

Think about it, How can Carey be the best when there's an elite CHB who can claim to have bested him?

So Diesel Williams wasn't great because Sean Denham ragged the shit out of him ???

Carey won his team finals & flags and a whole lotta H&A games. They kicked it to him, he created goals, if they weren't getting it to him, he went and got it and did the same.
Champion. Great.
Jakovich helped his side win finals & flags.
Difference.

Every player gets beaten.

 

[ImaLetUFinish]

Think about it, How can Carey be the best when there's an elite CHB who can claim to have bested him?

By your logic, Levi Greenwood >>>>> Chris Judd.

Greenwood: robbed of the 2010 Brownlow Medal.