Meltdown Carlton and Collingwood - who finishes higher in 2024?

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A lot of players are on the wrong side of thirty. There's no premiership dynasty in that Collingwood team imo.
Pendlebury
Howe
Sidebottom
Cox
Elliott
Mihocek
Mitchell
Hoskin-Elliott
Adams
Crisp

Also interested in Goldstein so that would be 11

For reference with the retirement of Ed Curnow, Carlton have 1, Nic Newman
 
Pendlebury
Howe
Sidebottom
Mitchell

All still playing great footy as evidenced on Sat

Elliott our 2nd leading goalkicker. Cox has only played ~110 games so about the same wear and tear as a 24yo. Mihocek also only played 130-odd

Hoskin-Elliott
Adams
Crisp

Barely 30

Goldstein would be a short-term solution and as much about working with Begg and Steene as playing
 
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Catch us if you can in 2024.

Or will it be 22 of the past 23 years that Collingwood finish ahead of Carlton?

CCurnow3votes - where are you?
We don't have to do the catching as such. You've managed to pull yourself level with us on flags won.

It will be interesting to see how you get on when the old guard retire. A few veterans and a few recruits under the father/son rule, dragged you to that flag win imo.

If a team with Billy Frampton in it can win a flag, then there's hope for all of us!:laughv1:
 
We don't have to do the catching as such. You've managed to pull yourself level with us on flags won.

It will be interesting to see how you get on when the old guard retire. A few veterans and a few recruits under the father/son rule, dragged you to that flag win imo.

If a team with Billy Frampton in it can win a flag, then there's hope for all of us!:laughv1:
Ah, Carlton do need to catch Collingwood as they have just established themselves as the best team in the competition, whilst Carlton are somewhere well below.

The flag count is irrelevant to me. Collingwood have always been the #1 team in the competition since the beginning of the league in 1897.

Hawthorn have been the #1 team in the competition in my lifetime, whilst not having any long term periods of mediocrity.

Do you reckon there are any Hawthorn supporters who are between 10 and 70 years old who are jealous of Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon because they have a few more flags than them? I don't.
 
Ah, Carlton do need to catch Collingwood as they have just established themselves as the best team in the competition, whilst Carlton are somewhere well below.

The flag count is irrelevant to me. Collingwood have always been the #1 team in the competition since the beginning of the league in 1897.

Hawthorn have been the #1 team in the competition in my lifetime, whilst not having any long term periods of mediocrity.

Do you reckon there are any Hawthorn supporters who are between 10 and 70 years old who are jealous of Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon because they have a few more flags than them? I don't.
You haven't been the outright number one team in flags won since 1980.

A tired Carlton team only lost by under three goals to a fresh Brisbane Lions team at the gabba.

If we were fresher and got a hold of them at the G then we would've beaten them imo.

I'd rate that Collingwood team to be the weakest flag winning team in years imo.

I'd seriously be shocked if you win another one.
 

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You haven't been the outright number one team in flags won since 1980.

A tired Carlton team only had lost by under three goals to a fresh Brisbane Lions team at the gabba.

If we were fresher and got a hold of them at the G then we would've beaten them imo.

You should’ve been less shit during the H&A, then you would’ve had a rest.

I'd rate that Collingwood team to be the weakest flag winning team in years imo.

I'd seriously be shocked if you win another one.
🥱
 
You haven't been the outright number one team in flags won since 1980.

A tired Carlton team only had lost by under three goals to a fresh Brisbane Lions team at the gabba.

If we were fresher and got a hold of them at the G then we would've beaten them imo.

I'd rate that Collingwood team to be the weakest flag winning team in years imo.

I'd seriously be shocked if you win another one.
'A tired Carlton team'.....

Hopefully one day we can refer to Carlton as 'the weakest flag winning team in years'. Then again, maybe we won't.

Fun fact: there is now a 29% probability that Carlton's current (28 year) premiership drought extends to 50 years.
 
'A tired Carlton team'.....

Hopefully one day we can refer to Carlton as 'the weakest flag winning team in years'. Then again, maybe we won't.

Fun fact: there is now a 29% probability that Carlton's current (28 year) premiership drought extends to 50 years.
I wouldn't think so, there's a Carlton flag coming within the next four years. Our list has a lot more potential for growth as such.
 
I wouldn't think so, there's a Carlton flag coming within the next four years. Our list has a lot more potential for growth as such.

Gee, where have I heard that before...




Like a broken record - and you suckers keep falling for it 🤣
 
Gee, where have I heard that before...




Like a broken record - and you suckers keep falling for it 🤣
Oh wow! Clubs make plans! You need to contact some sort of newsman and get this out there! People need to know!
 
Oh wow! Clubs make plans! You need to contact some sort of newsman and get this out there! People need to know!
It's much better if the club came out and said their goal was bottom 4. Set expectations real low to avoid potential disappointment...
 
Oh wow! Clubs make plans! You need to contact some sort of newsman and get this out there! People need to know!

I was responding to a poster who said Carltank would win a flag in the next 4 years... so yeah, it seemed pretty relevant to point out that this year is the third time in 12 years that the Carlton board have said more or less the same thing - with zero results

The 2011 "Blue Print" even promised two flags by the end of the 2015 season :D “Our core business is football and success on the field is what this Club is about. We will be uncompromising in our pursuit of this success. This Strategic Plan is more than just words and ideas; it has meaning" said Carlton President Stephen Kernahan

For those who have memory-holed reality, the actual results were:

2011 5th, won 1 final
2012 10th
2013 9th*
2014 13th
2015 18th WOODEN SPOON :D

:$
 

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