Media Carlton in the Media (articles, podcasts etc) - Part IV

[DangerousD]

To be fair, he shouldn't have to do anything to address the basics. Players should already have them when they're drafted. Part of the responsibility of being a professional footballer and drafting due diligence.

How many putts do you think golfers do per week? It’s a basic, shouldn’t a pro golfer already have this skill before they turn pro? Of course they should, but being exceptional at a certain skill means constant training.

 

[Gethelred]

It's pretty simple: expertise is correct technique plus repetition. Flair is idiosyncracy - minute-major deviation from the ideal - plus expertise.

You get players like Gryan Miers

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Gryan Miers

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.2

4star

, and Lance Franklin - and to an extent, Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

; Matthew Suckling

1

Matthew Suckling

Age

36

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

6.8

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

396.8

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.2

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.3

1star

MG

208.8

3star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

is another example - becoming highly reliable to mindblowing field kicks because their individual idiosyncracies weren't coached out of them but were practiced so many times that they became beneficial. Franklin's, Suckling's and Charlie's swing out onto the dominant side before kicking lends them at least 20m more range on their kicks than they'd get otherwise; Mier's ability to control his balldrop onto any part of his boot means he can put the ball on a pin anywhere within 30m but can absolutely shank the thing.

You'd see it a lot more if footy wasn't intent on determining any technique a long way from the norm undesirable. Luke Ball's career almost went down the gurgler because Ross Lyon needed all kickers to be able to kick over a zone defense; because after injury his range decreased whilst already lacking penetration, there just wasn't a place for him in a side that needed legspeed and kicking range. He goes to Collingwood and joins Jolly, used in his ideal role and given rests inside 50, his kicking was more than capable of hitting between the sticks from 25m; lo and behold, he's got a premiership medal to show off at the 10 year anniversary of The Winning Streak.

Richmond have since 2017 talked about how they reversed the onus from a deficit mindset to a strength mindset; 'what weaknesses do you need to fix' compared to 'can we get you to do what you're already doing well better?' I cannot help but feel that within AFL circles there's too much focus on limitations when drafting, and it's a lesser sport for it.

... which is a tangent from the fact that you need to spend substantial time every training session on the basics.

 

[ctwenty1]

How many putts do you think golfers do per week? It’s a basic, shouldn’t a pro golfer already have this skill before they turn pro? Of course they should, but being exceptional at a certain skill means constant training.

what is it, 10,000 hours of training before you can become an expert at something?

As you say, basics should be there at drafting but to become elite means constant training

 

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[Coops93]

It's pretty simple: expertise is correct technique plus repetition. Flair is idiosyncracy - minute-major deviation from the ideal - plus expertise.

You get players like Gryan Miers, and Lance Franklin - and to an extent, Charlie Curnow; Matthew Suckling is another example - becoming highly reliable to mindblowing field kicks because their individual idiosyncracies weren't coached out of them but were practiced so many times that they became beneficial. Franklin's, Suckling's and Charlie's swing out onto the dominant side before kicking lends them at least 20m more range on their kicks than they'd get otherwise; Mier's ability to control his balldrop onto any part of his boot means he can put the ball on a pin anywhere within 30m but can absolutely shank the thing.

You'd see it a lot more if footy wasn't intent on determining any technique a long way from the norm undesirable. Luke Ball's career almost went down the gurgler because Ross Lyon needed all kickers to be able to kick over a zone defense; because after injury his range decreased whilst already lacking penetration, there just wasn't a place for him in a side that needed legspeed and kicking range. He goes to Collingwood and joins Jolly, used in his ideal role and given rests inside 50, his kicking was more than capable of hitting between the sticks from 25m; lo and behold, he's got a premiership medal to show off at the 10 year anniversary of The Winning Streak.

Richmond have since 2017 talked about how they reversed the onus from a deficit mindset to a strength mindset; 'what weaknesses do you need to fix' compared to 'can we get you to do what you're already doing well better?' I cannot help but feel that within AFL circles there's too much focus on limitations when drafting, and it's a lesser sport for it.

... which is a tangent from the fact that you need to spend substantial time every training session on the basics.

You could make the case that it's similar to batsmen in cricket.

Imagine how many coaches would have tried to "fix" Steven Smith or Marnus Labuschagne along the way, but the more they started to bat like themselves and let their personalities out (however weird they may be...) the better they got.

To a degree there's a happy medium, tweaking the technical while not completely changing the method. Harry has traditionally been a pretty sound kick but it clearly fell right away last yr, he put in work and got it back. Tightening loose ends up is still important even in unique techniques.

 

[Gethelred]

You could make the case that it's similar to batsmen in cricket.

That'd be because that's my coaching background...