Review Cats defeat gallant Pies by 6 points to get into another PF

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

He was in thier GF winning teams .
Small forward type.

Coached under dimmer Hardwick was like for like sooky bitch.

Didn’t even play 200 games, only got to 195! You don’t stop just before 200! Only losers do that, he’s no loser

 

[Romeoh1]

Pies fans, after finishing 17th last year, and now finding themselves right in the flag mix, are quite understandably a little over-excited at the moment. They are always prone to hysteria in any given season, but they are going off piste now. It’s pretty entertaining.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

And moreover just no need. He coached well, they played as well as they could and went down by a kick. An easy gracious position to take. Real amateur stuff. Showed his inexperience.

Pies have had a great run too and have been blessed to win so many close ones. Bizarre to throw the toys out of the cot when one doesn’t go their way!

 

[Mr Meow]

And they were ON yesterday. We really weren't.

They had the the majority of the 10 best players.

And yeah, I think they beat most teams yesterday.

We were fortunate, but good enough to be there to take advantage of that fortune.

I kind of disagree with some of this. It absolutely applied to the first 16 or so game minutes of the first quarter.

From that point on? 11.9.75 to 7.8.50 and it was actually Geelong having more missed opportunities to create scoring shots (couple of "nearly" handballs by Hawk, 4 goal assist chances Close blundered) or convert goals (Close and Duncan snaps not far out, Smith on the run).

The second quarter we dominated them but let a cheapy in at the end, the 3rd it felt we had them in general play/territory but they kind of rope a doped us late after the dreadful Close miss, and the 4th we were on top.

Most of the best 10 players? Maybe by fantasy points and heavily influenced by first quarter domination (e.g both Daicos brothers had 11 touches early in the 2nd quarter - their disposal count and efficiency trailed off subsequently).

De Goey was immense and would get votes.

Moore and Maynard were great but I thought matched by Stewart and Zuth.

Nobles accumulation at half back somewhat equal to Bews competitive work and influence on crucial contests/moments.

Selwood and Duncan had more influence on the final result than Pendles and Sidebottom despite all playing well - I'll die on that hill. Edged them for score involvements, Duncan got a crucial goal and they had 9 inside 50s to 5. There were big, big moments in the 2nd and 4th quarters where our two took the game by the scruff of the neck. Theirs were still very good but more as accumulators and they had a few sloppy skill errors too.

Guthrie and Atkins outdid Adams and Crisp by the end. The Daicos brothers edged Holmes
and Smith maybe but it wasn't by a hell of a lot. J.Daicos the points against Smith but Holmes had a bigger impact on the game than his fellow youngster Nick after quarter time.

Rohan and Cameron were the difference makers and both in the top 5, Collingwood had no forwards close to that and it was this that decided the game.

Cameron, Rohan, Selwood, Duncan and Stewart all in the top 10.

De Goey, Pendles, Moore and J.Daicos for them.

Raffle off Atkins, Guthrie and Sidebottom for the last spot.

10. Cameron
9. De Goey
8. Rohan
7. Selwood
6. Moore
5. Pendlebury
4. J.Daicos
3. Stewart
2. Duncan
1. Atkins (topped contested possessions, clearances and match winning last quarter)

For me

 

[Cold Sober]

Well done to Geelong, cracker of a game. Selwood huge. Hope KK's knee is ok and he can get up for the prelim. Too good for us today

Bullshit, Collingwood lost but now have a better chance of being in the big dance than Geelong.

 

[mac_cat]

Every single tackle they yelled ball.

My favourite was when Rohan had a hacked kick at goal and it went across the face and OOB and the crowd yelled for deliberate and booed when it wasn't.

Yes, I was at the game too, and thought it was laughable that the Pies fans were calling for deliberate OOB in this situation, as if Rohan wanted the ball to go out of bounds rather than trying to score a goal.

But it also confirms my previous thinking, that Collingwood supporters suffer the greatest umpire-persecution-complex of any team’s supporter group. Always calling “ball”, always carrying on about the umpire not paying their players’ frees, while supposedly giving the opposition team an easy ride. It’s a joke how over the top they are.

 

[cats_09]

Bullshit, Collingwood lost but now have a better chance of being in the big dance than Geelong.

Cheers for your thoughts; rather interesting take on an opposition board

 

[thecatattack]

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Bullshit, Collingwood lost but now have a better chance of being in the big dance than Geelong.

huh

 

[cats_09]

 

[cats_09]

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huh

I think they be lost

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Stoked to grind out the win. A very gutsy performance. 3 things that need attention:

- Henry; much better back than forward. Kolodjashnij out, Parfitt in, Henry back.

- Blicavs; perennial finals under-performer. “Deer in the headlights” is the only way to describe it.

- Stanley; sick of the Jekyll and Hyde act.

Blicavs and Stanley worry me the most. Both will be playing in the prelim (against Gawn and Jackson), and neither can be trusted.

re Blicavs and Stanley. Both deer in the headlights as you say. So was Toohey and others for a good part of the game. No problem. They have been baptized for this season's finals. Its easy for naturally talented players to adjust to pressure. Guys like Atkins - who was born a footballer - and Jezza take to finals pressure like ducks to water. but there are guys that need to get a pressure game into them first and unfortunately we have been playing no pressure bottoms sides lately. Our team needed that game.

P.S. definitely Parfitt in.

 

[cats_09]

The club's shared the efforts of Zach G across their various social media channels - can't help but feel the club is kinda trolling with the image used on FB & Insta

 

[Cold Sober]

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huh

Freo Syd. is a better option than Melb Brisb i think.

 

[catempire]

I think I’m ready to talk about how Rohan not only dropped the obscene pass from Jezza but he basically fresh aired it. I don’t really know how he did it.

 

[Play it Sam]

Rewatching the game -

Blitz - Was fumbly but got himself into several aerial contests that looked like certain Pie wins. Failing to grab that handball from Guthrie was awful, was still running at full steam compared to the Pies though.
Stanley - Certainly had his Vertigo issues, missed several ruck contests by a mile. Seemed on 2nd watch he was pacing himself based off Cox/Cameron who weren't running hard so he didn't run hard. Makes him look worse when Pies are streaming past and his most valuable asset is his ability to contest. Not sure I'd drop him on rewatch but wouldn't want him running at that pace again.
Holmes - Last quarter champion, run run run run run run run, always an outlet and always free. Fantastic, without players like him you don't win finals.
Miers and Close - Same run but not as effective. Invaluable last quarter players and you'd assume someone as smooth as close wouldn't have the same bad disposals twice.

You'd back us to win most last quarters with how much run we have. Just need to be sharper and take the game on earlier as that first quarter we really didn't want to make a play. 2nd quarter we dominated a good chunk of it and same for the last. 3rd was even.

So speaking of Holmes run,and Close/Miers, I'd like some opinions.
With 45 seconds to go, Danger marks the ball btw HF and Wing boundary, about 60 out.
He holds it up best as he can, but has to kick. Hawk is covered by THREE opponents. Hawk is frantically indicating 2 free players steaming in (watch replay: they are running into the top of 50 metre arc) of which one is guaranteed no intercept.....but no........ Danger kicks into the contest, which of course was lost.
Did he do the right thing, is that what they train to do?
There is argument about it in this house, even though it's one picky thing, and we were able to recover through Blicks when it came back out, then siren.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Pies fans, after finishing 17th last year, and now finding themselves right in the flag mix, are quite understandably a little over-excited at the moment. They are always prone to hysteria in any given season, but they are going off piste now. It’s pretty entertaining.

It’s insane they’re doing so well this year, it’s not like they were in finals the previous 3 years…

 

[BotsMaster]

 

[Munich]

Freo Syd. is a better option than Melb Brisb i think.

Off you trot back from whence you came.

 

[00VicWard001]

having watched the last quarter alot now a few things stood out to me as the difference that got us over the line.

1. they tired- it is very hard to sustain that level of manic intensity for four quarters that collingwood played with. They tired to an extent which allowed us a bit more flow during the quarter, which resulted in us getting them out the backdoor a few times for goals.

2. we managed to get a handpass out during a chain of tackles- instead of the ball being locked up for a bounce, we adapted and started getting a handpass out or knocking the ball on getting momentum on the play, which allowed us a few times to get the ball flowing forward with more potency.

3. some individuals got their games flowing a bit better - Dekoning was massive in that last quarter on replay, involved heavily and did not get beaten once. stengle rohan close our champion group of medium/smalls really started to cause problems forward of centre once a bit more flow came into the game.

McRae spoke about not lying down because that’s a losers mentality- and it’s so interesting. He said - not unless it’s a grandfinal. This concept actually applies within games.

What McRae said in regards to his players at the end of our game, was actually more relevant to the cats players during the game (and Freo too I guess after their first quarter).

Too often an onslaught causes one team to wilt. And that’s where coaches have to be nice and steady - get them focused on what’s next - not what’s in the past (Chris Scott).

Adding to that, players have to default to system, training and team work.

If they are in a finals team, on top of the ladder, then they are a bloody good player - and as professional as they come.

That’s what our boys showed us the whole game and especially in the last quarter. They didn’t hang their heads, didn’t turn up their bellies. They just hung in, counter punched and just waited.

And the Collingwood players started to feel it. All those smiles they had at quarter time disappeared, when they realised that we wouldn’t disappear. And then the pressure went onto them. Not just physical, but mental. Imagine punching someone in the face as hard as you can and they just get up off the ground and smile through bloodied teeth. That exactly what happened. We just stayed in the game and when it was the red zone, the place where they think they are strong, it was our guys, our system, our belief that showed up.

 

[Catman]

Not sure it's been mentioned, but I read somewhere that late in the game we only had something like 3 rotations left compared to Collingwood's 12. Maybe that was the reason Stanley was left on the bench - we were going to need runners for the last few minutes compared to a ruckman and we had to use any rotation wisely?

 

[Romeoh1]

It’s insane they’re doing so well this year, it’s not like they were in finals the previous 3 years…

Yep- it’s an amazing effort. Think a bit of it shows how off the ball Buckley was?

 

[Seeds]

View attachment 1499485People saying De Goey was Collingwoods best...
Here is our quiet Achiever..
( Atkins says hello )

Degoey did kick two big time goals in the last qtr. think that may be why they have him as the best. Kind of missing that from the stat comparison

 

[Mr Meow]

Sidebottom was understandably gassed in the last. 87% time on ground compared to say Selwood at 67% or so. Holmes almost scored a goal on him early in the 4th and was basically finding all the dangerous positions. That's why Sidebottom, despite a strong first 3 quarters, wouldn't get votes for me. Sel, Duncan, Atkins, Guth etc rose another level when the crunch was on.

 

[fpm84]

Bullshit, Collingwood lost but now have a better chance of being in the big dance than Geelong.

Congrats on your milestone - 18 years to the day since Essendon won a final!

 

[Munich]

Well done to Geelong, cracker of a game. Selwood huge. Hope KK's knee is ok and he can get up for the prelim. Too good for us today

Who's KK