Review Cats defeat gallant Pies by 6 points to get into another PF

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I think I’m ready to talk about how Rohan not only dropped the obscene pass from Jezza but he basically fresh aired it. I don’t really know how he did it.
Already had the Holmes handball pre loaded, spent it before he had it. Awful blunder but if momentum of the ball is kept forward it's the same result. It did. Just. Goal on the line Vs a set shot. Lucky, but there you have it.
 
So speaking of Holmes run,and Close/Miers, I'd like some opinions.
With 45 seconds to go, Danger marks the ball btw HF and Wing boundary, about 60 out.
He holds it up best as he can, but has to kick. Hawk is covered by THREE opponents. Hawk is frantically indicating 2 free players steaming in (watch replay: they are running into the top of 50 metre arc) of which one is guaranteed no intercept.....but no........ Danger kicks into the contest, which of course was lost.
Did he do the right thing, is that what they train to do?
There is argument about it in this house, even though it's one picky thing, and we were able to recover through Blicks when it came back out, then siren.
I think the long kick inside 50 was the best thing he did in the entire passage.

First possession he's at the back of the pack and just needs a kick around the body to get it to a contest near the f50 boundary and he kicks the bloody wrong side of the ball and we're stuck with a 3 on 1 as the ball lands. If McCreery doesn't drop the handball they are kicking inside 50 instead which would have been horrendous.

2nd possession takes an uncontested mark and looks around in all the wrong directions, eventually Collingwood fill the hole and he goes long knowing we won't win the ball but it's better to turn it over there as we had the big outnumber in the middle where Collingwood would have dump kick it.

3rd possession We win the 4 on 1 and shuffle it out to Danger who forgets there's still a game and can't even handball properly to Blicavs who's tackled immediately, if he gets that out right away, Blitz goes to Stengle and we're home. He tried his best to butcher it on review and next time should be quicker.
 
Freo Syd. is a better option than Melb Brisb i think.
Glad for your opinion but I'd suggest it's better suited on either the main board or maybe your own teams board - if they've got a finals football thread, though not sure as it's been so long since Essendon won a final...

Run on and return to your home board - further contributions here aren't required and will be dealt with
 

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So speaking of Holmes run,and Close/Miers, I'd like some opinions.
With 45 seconds to go, Danger marks the ball btw HF and Wing boundary, about 60 out.
He holds it up best as he can, but has to kick. Hawk is covered by THREE opponents. Hawk is frantically indicating 2 free players steaming in (watch replay: they are running into the top of 50 metre arc) of which one is guaranteed no intercept.....but no........ Danger kicks into the contest, which of course was lost.
Did he do the right thing, is that what they train to do?
There is argument about it in this house, even though it's one picky thing, and we were able to recover through Blicks when it came back out, then siren.
Exactly the right play from Danger in the circumstance last thing you want to do is centre the ball.Down the line where the boundary line can be your friend if required.
 
Already had the Holmes handball pre loaded, spent it before he had it. Awful blunder but if momentum of the ball is kept forward it's the same result. It did. Just. Goal on the line Vs a set shot. Lucky, but there you have it.
When Rohan went for the mark, he didn’t know where Holmes was.
 
I think I’m ready to talk about how Rohan not only dropped the obscene pass from Jezza but he basically fresh aired it. I don’t really know how he did it.
I recon there's a clue if you watch what happens next: after handpassing to Holmes for the likely match winning goal, he is on the deck and hardly moves to celebrate.

He was stuffed (as all players were by then) but especially so after a massive effort running to make that play.

Not an excuse, but a reason. Tired, finals footy brings mistakes and players will always make them but just need to get up for the next contest and the next.
 
Exactly the right play from Danger in the circumstance last thing you want to do is centre the ball.Down the line where the boundary line can be your friend if required.

Yes, true, but Hawk wasn't buying it. No hope to punch boundary with three talls on him, and so it proved.
Definite Free player top of arc has the opportunity to score at least a winning point and hold for at least 20 secs.
 

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Exactly the right play from Danger in the circumstance last thing you want to do is centre the ball.Down the line where the boundary line can be your friend if required.
Yup. I agree. I thought the same thing. An inexperienced team or player might centre the ball to try and kick more goals and ice the game - but at that point where you’re fatigued, everyone else is fatigued - there’s too many variables to consider and if there’s a turnover - then that ball will go down the centre, change angles and then land in Jamie Elliott’s hands for a the match-drawing goal.

Better to put it to a situation where it’s hemmed in and we can defend it.
 
I kind of disagree with some of this. It absolutely applied to the first 16 or so game minutes of the first quarter.

From that point on? 11.9.75 to 7.8.50 and it was actually Geelong having more missed opportunities to create scoring shots (couple of "nearly" handballs by Hawk, 4 goal assist chances Close blundered) or convert goals (Close and Duncan snaps not far out, Smith on the run).

The second quarter we dominated them but let a cheapy in at the end, the 3rd it felt we had them in general play/territory but they kind of rope a doped us late after the dreadful Close miss, and the 4th we were on top.

Most of the best 10 players? Maybe by fantasy points and heavily influenced by first quarter domination (e.g both Daicos brothers had 11 touches early in the 2nd quarter - their disposal count and efficiency trailed off subsequently).

De Goey was immense and would get votes.

Moore and Maynard were great but I thought matched by Stewart and Zuth.

Nobles accumulation at half back somewhat equal to Bews competitive work and influence on crucial contests/moments.

Selwood and Duncan had more influence on the final result than Pendles and Sidebottom despite all playing well - I'll die on that hill. Edged them for score involvements, Duncan got a crucial goal and they had 9 inside 50s to 5. There were big, big moments in the 2nd and 4th quarters where our two took the game by the scruff of the neck. Theirs were still very good but more as accumulators and they had a few sloppy skill errors too.

Guthrie and Atkins outdid Adams and Crisp by the end. The Daicos brothers edged Holmes
and Smith maybe but it wasn't by a hell of a lot. J.Daicos the points against Smith but Holmes had a bigger impact on the game than his fellow youngster Nick after quarter time.

Rohan and Cameron were the difference makers and both in the top 5, Collingwood had no forwards close to that and it was this that decided the game.

Cameron, Rohan, Selwood, Duncan and Stewart all in the top 10.

De Goey, Pendles, Moore and J.Daicos for them.

Raffle off Atkins, Guthrie and Sidebottom for the last spot.

10. Cameron
9. De Goey
8. Rohan
7. Selwood
6. Moore
5. Pendlebury
4. J.Daicos
3. Stewart
2. Duncan
1. Atkins (topped contested possessions, clearances and match winning last quarter)

For me

All fair points... good post.

To me though, it simply seemed like Collingwood played their game all night and played it well.

We weren't playing ours, or even particularly well, but took the win.

Don't think many of our players played at their peak, but plenty of theirs did.

But yeah, difficult to really disagree with your post above.

What we all get from the games is pretty unique.
 
Pies fans were calling ball from the first moment of the game- they always do it. Basically if you look in the direction of the ball, pies fans think it’s holding the ball. Clueless.
I heard "ball" from the Pie fans when I was just searching for my keys in my pocket. They tend to overdo it.
 
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Yes, true, but Hawk wasn't buying it. No hope to punch boundary with three talls on him, and so it proved.
Definite Free player top of arc has the opportunity to score at least a winning point and hold for at least 20 secs.
That requires Danger making a semi decent pass..... I've seen enough Danger to know the long one is the high percentage play.
 
Yeah set shot was no certainty, but Holmes from goalsquare was. Taking the mark would have probably required him to stop, or fall or something and not be able to play on.
Rohan didn’t deliberately drop the mark as the ball could have gone anywhere. He took his eye off it as he turned to see how close his opponent was.
 
That requires Danger making a semi decent pass..... I've seen enough Danger to know the long one is the high percentage play.
Lucky he didnt kick it out on the full.

In the past - with that amazing play from Cameron to Rohan to seal the game - that would have been Danger, not Cameron, who would have kicked that inside 50 and that ball would have been out on the full.
 
Rohan didn’t deliberately drop the mark as the ball could have gone anywhere. He took his eye off it as he turned to see how close his opponent was.
I like to think the Ball sliding through to our advantage was us getting one back. The Blicavs slip, the Danger charge that bounced the other way led to Pie Goals. The bounces Holmes got running into goal in q2 were horrible. It finally went our way with that one. Also at the end when Danger bombed inside 50 the ball bounces away from Duncan just to add extra one.
 
In heard "ball" from the Pie fans when I was just searching for my keys in my pocket. They tend to overdo it.

Around us so damn annoying...It finally got to me.
Yelled why don't you EARN IT. You sound like Essendon supporters, ball ball ball (in whinging voice)
Received a text to ask if all this "BALL" screaming would influence the umpires.
The converse happened, I think they may have over corrected :) and swallowed whistles
 
I recon there's a clue if you watch what happens next: after handpassing to Holmes for the likely match winning goal, he is on the deck and hardly moves to celebrate.

He was stuffed (as all players were by then) but especially so after a massive effort running to make that play.

Not an excuse, but a reason. Tired, finals footy brings mistakes and players will always make them but just need to get up for the next contest and the next.
BUT THE FRESH AIR???
 
Around us so damn annoying...It finally got to me.
Yelled why don't you EARN IT. You sound like Essendon supporters, ball ball ball (in whinging voice)
Received a text to ask if all this "BALL" screaming would influence the umpires.
The converse happened, I think they may have over corrected :) and swallowed whistles
There are pie fans on twitter still crying about Duncan not getting pinged when he never fully grabbed the ball until he was tackled. The umpire page on twitter saying it's a correct decision and they can't handle it.

We didn't get paid a single ruck infringement including the Stanley one where Cameron goes to ground and pulls him down which leads to the Collingwood goal at HT.
 
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