Unofficial Preview Changes & Pre-match Discussion - RD 4 vs. Carlton. Thur 03/04 @ 7:30pm (MCG)

[Bianconeri]

I don’t think people forget that he was recruited as a defender I think they just prefer him as a forward because he’s a damn good one. Now is the time for that move though, IMO.

I love the potential of what the MMM’s can do, but we need a full season solution to the anchor KPD role and it isn’t Frampton. Mihocek’s body takes a battering week to week as a forward so perhaps it’s time to change things up in a bid to help both him and the team.

Otherwise I don’t know what we do to solve that problem because Frampton isn’t him and Dean is even less likely…

I like this move because Cox and Membrey are better footballers than Framtpon and Dean. Why get rid of one of the former for the latter when we can fit them in in other ways.

 

[sr36]

With all the sooking about the free kick count I’m worried about Curnow getting another bag from free kicks.

Frees will be forgotten. There's a 2 weeks of scandals to fill 800 weekly hours of AFL gossip shows to go before we play next.

 

[jmac70]

I like this move because Cox and Membrey are better footballers than Framtpon and Dean. Why get rid of one of the former for the latter when we can fit them in in other ways.

I would be very surprised to see Checkers moved to the back line. I think he will replace Cox, and Frampton will be selected.

I know this sounds boring, but it’s what they have trained for.

 

[Ingy]

i reckon Ned Long should not be the sub.

He should be Cripps' shadow.

I think he could take him right out of the game

 

[jmac70]

i reckon Ned Long should not be the sub.

He should be Cripps' shadow.

I think he could take him right out of the game

I doubt he will be the sub.
He has shown that he belongs in the starting team.

 

[domus]

i reckon Ned Long should not be the sub.

He should be Cripps' shadow.

I think he could take him right out of the game

I have a feeling Ned tagged Cripps the last time we played them, and Cripps tore us apart in that last quarter. I think he won every clearance on his own. I suppose he deserves another crack.

 

[MagpieExcalibur]

IN: #17 Billy Frampton , #41 Brody Mihocek ,#32 Will Hoskin-Elliott (sub)
OUT: #26 Reef McInnes (injured) , #28 Tim Membrey (omitted) , #46 Mason Cox (omitted)
Backs: #38 Jeremy Howe , #17 Billy Frampton , #4 Brayden Maynard
Half-Backs: #9 Dan Houston , #30 Darcy Moore (captain) , #3 Isaac Quaynor
Centreline: #25 Jack Crisp , #12 Harry Perryman , #7 Josh Daicos (fatside/defensive winger)
Followers : #14 Darcy Cameron , #22 Steele Sidebottom , #35 Nick Daicos
Half-Forwards: #31 Beau McCreery , #41 Brody Mihocek ,#2 Jordan De Goey (gets some CBA attendances as well as a high half-forward
Full-Forwards: #23 Bobby Hill , #11 Daniel McStay , #5 Jamie Elliott
INT: #8 Lachie Schultz , #10 Scott Pendlebury (mainly half back) , #44 Ned Long , #1 Patrick Lipinski (half forward/wing)
SUB:#32 Will Hoskin-Elliott

 

[domus]

Might depend on whether we replace Reef with a tall or get Bruzzy to play tall.

Surely Frampton steps straight into his role.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Perryman is pretty much Pendles replacement once he retires... minus the vision. The versatility and size is there...

Unfortunately it also means Perryman isn't a burst and speedy player. His versatility is handy at the moment, can play him anywhere from back to middle.

Perryman is nothing like Pendles replacement. No one can replace Pendles. Another player will come in and make a name for himself. Thomas Mcguane just one example.
Perryman on his own path.

 

[jmac70]

Perryman is nothing like Pendles replacement. No one can replace Pendles. Another player will come in and make a name for himself. Thomas Mcguane just one example.
Perryman on his own path.

Spot on.

 

[ClaytonM]

Best case scenario is we belt them by 10 goals making them 0 and 4 and Voss gets sacked. Head scratching selection meeting coming up. Framps is a must, Checkers back too, it's out of Cox or Membrey for the chop. The tag team of Cox and DC is potent against 1 ruck teams like Carlscum. TDK will be outworked. But I like Membrey. Good problem to have. Carltons longbombs to no one gameplan favours tall interceptors. If Crisp misses then Ed Allan or Hosk.

Voss not getting sacked is the best case scenario. The longer he stinks up the place the better.

 

[jmac70]

Voss not getting sacked is the best case scenario. The longer he stinks up the place the better.

They won’t sack Voss this year.

 

[Tadpole]

Voss not getting sacked is the best case scenario. The longer he stinks up the place the better.

He might end up a Hinkley type, who keeps getting contract extensions despite his side's continual abject failure when it really counts.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Might depend on whether we replace Reef with a tall or get Bruzzy to play tall.

Surely Frampton steps straight into his role.

Don't think we can risk going against Curnow and McKay with Moore and Howe as the only 2 KPD.

 

[gouki88]

IN: #17 Billy Frampton , #41 Brody Mihocek ,#32 Will Hoskin-Elliott (sub)
OUT: #26 Reef McInnes (injured) , #28 Tim Membrey (omitted) , #46 Mason Cox (omitted)
Backs: #38 Jeremy Howe , #17 Billy Frampton , #4 Brayden Maynard
Half-Backs: #9 Dan Houston , #30 Darcy Moore (captain) , #3 Isaac Quaynor
Centreline: #25 Jack Crisp , #12 Harry Perryman , #7 Josh Daicos (fatside/defensive winger)
Followers : #14 Darcy Cameron , #22 Steele Sidebottom , #35 Nick Daicos
Half-Forwards: #31 Beau McCreery , #41 Brody Mihocek ,#2 Jordan De Goey (gets some CBA attendances as well as a high half-forward
Full-Forwards: #23 Bobby Hill , #11 Daniel McStay , #5 Jamie Elliott
INT: #8 Lachie Schultz , #10 Scott Pendlebury (mainly half back) , #44 Ned Long , #1 Patrick Lipinski (half forward/wing)
SUB:#32 Will Hoskin-Elliott

Can't see Membrey getting dropped AND we go to a small forward line (especially when McStay rucks, which would see us reverting to a tiny forward line).

 

[Gilbert_Grape]

I don’t think people forget that he was recruited as a defender I think they just prefer him as a forward because he’s a damn good one. Now is the time for that move though, IMO.

I love the potential of what the MMM’s can do, but we need a full season solution to the anchor KPD role and it isn’t Frampton. Mihocek’s body takes a battering week to week as a forward so perhaps it’s time to change things up in a bid to help both him and the team.

Otherwise I don’t know what we do to solve that problem because Frampton isn’t him and Dean is even less likely…

If they go that way, maybe McStay is the one to move back as it would be less disruptive to the forward setup?

Miho seems the more natural forward, way more goals on the board (nearly double the career goal average), more experience in the Pies forward set up.

McStay played plenty of AFL level games as a defender/swing man, and not so many games in the Pies forward line yet.

 

[sr36]

If they go that way, maybe McStay is the one to move back as it would be less disruptive to the forward setup?

Miho seems the more natural forward, way more goals on the board (nearly double the career goal average), more experience in the Pies forward set up.

McStay played plenty of AFL level games as a defender/swing man, and not so many games in the Pies forward line yet.

I can't see it happening. Membrey doesn't play tall enough to do it.

 

[Ted Parker]

B: Maynard, Frampton, IQ
HB: Houston, Moore, Howe

C: Jaicos, Naicos, Sidebottom
Foll: Cameron, JDG, Pendlebury

HF: Membrey, McStay, Schultz
F: Hill, Mihocek, Elliott

I/C: Lipinski, McCreery, Crisp, Perryman
SUB: Long

Does McStay loom as a better option at FB than Frampton for the remainder of the year, and deep into finals? Or do we trust Bill to get the job done? Bill did have a good game against the Swans. Took 7 marks / 8 disposals. If it doesn't work by mid-season, what then? Is it robbing Peter to pay Paul to move McStay?
Frampton and Dean combined well in the VFL, 7 marks apiece.
If Cox was to play as a forward, it at least gives a ruck chop out to Cameron. If we break Cameron we're stuffed.
Why isn't Houston taking the kick ins? I'll lose my mind if Howe or Moore continue to bomb it long for a larger part of their clearance kicks. With the player on the mark now positioned 10m from the top of the goal-square, and the player kicking in no longer needs to kick to themselves to play on out of the goal square, it still affords an option for Houston to run / break the lines. 60m bullets are better than 50m bombs.

Observation: the way Schultz's leading patterns into space to open up the forward line. He's been and playing the epitome of a team role and remains a significant contributor. His output ceiling is still to be reached, seems to be getting better each week.

 

[Gilbert_Grape]

I can't see it happening. Membrey doesn't play tall enough to do it.

Agree - don't think they will, more hypothetically I'd have thought McStay makes more sense than Miho.

 

[Bianconeri]

Does McStay loom as a better option at FB than Frampton for the remainder of the year, and deep into finals?

I think he would, issues is he his contested work forward of the ball is more important and we don’t have a player that can replicate that.

 

[JuniorB]

I think Frampton should come in and play on McKay.
Ned Long has done well so far, and he is the one to play on Cripps.
I'd like to see Ed Allan come in, with instructions to use his speed against the scum's plodding mids, but I don't know who would come out.
Apart from Weitering, the scum defence is pretty ordinary, so maybe McStay to make him accountable, freeing up our other tall forwards.
Cox or Membrey?
I'm not sure - Cox's height is always a problem for oppo players, but Skunk is a better forward and more mobile.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Genuinely curious, why does everyone think Cox is going to be dropped?

I thought he was more than good enough to justify his spot given how we structure up.

Or is it because Carlton only have the one ruck? Like a horses for courses type thing?

 

[gouki88]

Genuinely curious, why does everyone think Cox is going to be dropped?

I thought he was more than good enough to justify his spot given how we structure up.

Or is it because Carlton only have the one ruck? Like a horses for courses type thing?

Our forward line is better defensively without him, and the only real loss is in the ruck. Cox had a shocker in the first half and offers less than all the other talls

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Our forward line is better defensively without him, and the only real loss is in the ruck. Cox had a shocker in the first half and offers less than all the other talls

Cox showed as much or more than Membrey did last game.

 

[sr36]

Genuinely curious, why does everyone think Cox is going to be dropped?

I thought he was more than good enough to justify his spot given how we structure up.

Or is it because Carlton only have the one ruck? Like a horses for courses type thing?

I've got no idea what we are planning regards our forward line and second ruck, but most seemed to think that we'd shifted to the MMM strategy with McStay playing as second ruck. If that's what you believed, that game didn't change that.