Agree, but you’ll get a lot of kick back purely of people’s dislike of him as a player, he also was a strong body putting a stop on the opposition
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Sometimes. Other times he was just out there moving slowly.
He's a poor user of the footy, and hasn't been the most durable character.
For those arguing that Murphy's inability to impact the game because the ball is never at his end of the ground, consider the following:
Murphy - 4 disposals (2K 2HB)
Budarick - 16 disposals (11K 5HB)
Connor Budarick was a 3rd game player, and Murphy's direct opponent for the entire game. Budarick managed a very respectable 16 disposals, so it's fairly obvious that Murphy & Budarick were not isolated in Siberia, catching colds while they waited for the ball to enter Adelaide's F50.
The simple fact is that Murphy's performance against GC was somewhere between poor & abysmal, and there are no valid excuses as to why that was the case.
Having said that, I'm not a fan of making massive numbers of changes at the selection table, from one week to the next. I believe they got it right this week, in dropping Mrouch & Seed (with Atkins injured). Any further changes would have destabilised an already unstable team even further. Another performance like that though, and Murphy will be out as soon as Stengle's suspension expires.
Murphy - 4 disposals (2K 2HB)
Budarick - 16 disposals (11K 5HB)
Connor Budarick was a 3rd game player, and Murphy's direct opponent for the entire game. Budarick managed a very respectable 16 disposals, so it's fairly obvious that Murphy & Budarick were not isolated in Siberia, catching colds while they waited for the ball to enter Adelaide's F50.
The simple fact is that Murphy's performance against GC was somewhere between poor & abysmal, and there are no valid excuses as to why that was the case.
Having said that, I'm not a fan of making massive numbers of changes at the selection table, from one week to the next. I believe they got it right this week, in dropping Mrouch & Seed (with Atkins injured). Any further changes would have destabilised an already unstable team even further. Another performance like that though, and Murphy will be out as soon as Stengle's suspension expires.
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Just this week ? They would have all continued to play from Round 1
Maybe Gibbs dropped for round 2 then brought back for round 3
Just wondering if anyone has the full drafting notes that used to be available for some players.
Jones and McHenry are the ones Im looking for.
Curious to reread as I'd love to understand why we went with to 180cm mids with our two picks in '18.
Don't get me wrong, I think both will make it. Just curious.
Jones and McHenry are the ones Im looking for.
Curious to reread as I'd love to understand why we went with to 180cm mids with our two picks in '18.
Don't get me wrong, I think both will make it. Just curious.
Would it? Is impact a new term, or is it a reflection of critical analysis rather than rose coloured glasses?
Of course what I suggested was purely speculative and it's very easy for someone to debunk it based on "accepted thinking", but would you agree that a mix of an inside bull, an inside/outside workhorse and a pacy, tenacious young gun is far better than 2 flat footed, lazy inside players and ageing, disinterested outside support?
My point being, we stuck with players based on name, reputation and contract size, rather than giving other options any thought. As a result, our midfield stinks, and blokes like Lyon and Greenwood are thriving having been given opportunities that utilise their strength.
Case in point is Sloane. Paired with Danger, Sloaney was a gun, the perfect versatile mid who could get his own ball when needed but also get on the outside and hurt. Sloane has become far more inside since Danger left, and his effectiveness has diminished as a result.
A good midfield is the sum of its parts, and the players within it thrive when they're played to their strengths rather than shoehorned into other roles. We should have seen the writing on the wall with Brad, and we should have been prepared to select on merit rather than reputation. We didn't and sticking with Crouch X 2 and Sloane has killed our midfield and our TPP.
In short, I'm very comfortable with my previous statement
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At the point of the GC game where Murphy held up zero resistance against Budarick in a one on one contest and was outmarked by a rookie told me everything I needed to know about his future in the game.
Sure it was one play but the ease in which he was removed from the contest shows his lack of mental and physical strength, reading of the play and football ability let alone getting pushed around by an 18 year old, he's done in my eyes.
I've always had doubts over him and we habitually try to manufacture footballers who fit the AFC "mould" from guys like Sellar, McGregor, David Gallagher to Symes, Jake Kelly, Petrenko.
All triers but if they make best 22 you're in trouble.
Murphy is a hard worker but he doesn't have any weapons that will hurt the opposition. Hurry up Stengle!!!
Sure it was one play but the ease in which he was removed from the contest shows his lack of mental and physical strength, reading of the play and football ability let alone getting pushed around by an 18 year old, he's done in my eyes.
I've always had doubts over him and we habitually try to manufacture footballers who fit the AFC "mould" from guys like Sellar, McGregor, David Gallagher to Symes, Jake Kelly, Petrenko.
All triers but if they make best 22 you're in trouble.
Murphy is a hard worker but he doesn't have any weapons that will hurt the opposition. Hurry up Stengle!!!
4 weeks. He's back in round 5.
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Damnnnnn I thought he was back next week...
His ball use by hand at stoppages to outside runners is pretty good,I’m not disagreeing with his leg speed
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To be fair....it was againt elite opposition.
Last years wooden spooners who needed draft conccessions and had never beaten us
Just want to echo these sentiments.Would it? Is impact a new term, or is it a reflection of critical analysis rather than rose coloured glasses?
Of course what I suggested was purely speculative and it's very easy for someone to debunk it based on "accepted thinking", but would you agree that a mix of an inside bull, an inside/outside workhorse and a pacy, tenacious young gun is far better than 2 flat footed, lazy inside players and ageing, disinterested outside support?
My point being, we stuck with players based on name, reputation and contract size, rather than giving other options any thought. As a result, our midfield stinks, and blokes like Lyon and Greenwood are thriving having been given opportunities that utilise their strength.
Case in point is Sloane. Paired with Danger, Sloaney was a gun, the perfect versatile mid who could get his own ball when needed but also get on the outside and hurt. Sloane has become far more inside since Danger left, and his effectiveness has diminished as a result.
A good midfield is the sum of its parts, and the players within it thrive when they're played to their strengths rather than shoehorned into other roles. We should have seen the writing on the wall with Brad, and we should have been prepared to select on merit rather than reputation. We didn't and sticking with Crouch X 2 and Sloane has killed our midfield and our TPP.
In short, I'm very comfortable with my previous statement
The disaster our midfield has become is largely due to a slavish commitment to a 3 man set up, 2 of whom seem incapable of rotating anywhere else.
In the modern game this kind of commitment to a static structure is pretty archaic. The worst consequence is the complete shutting out of opportunities to alternative players and structures.
We can only hope that selection this week is a sign of this tenured triumvirate being broken up for good so that alternatives can be considered, and that the 3 players themselves can develop greater flexibility and improve their worth to the side.
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Greenwood, Lyons and CEY would be the worst midfield in the AFL.But if you had Greenwood, Lyons, CEY that woukd be awesome! Two big bodied mids and an excellent inside mid who can go forward!
But we already have the worst midfield so same shit
The three men set up issue was also exacerbated by the compete sameness of our recruits which included the likes of Lyons, Greenwood, Douglas, CEY.
The Crouches are still the best of that bunch, so hopefully Jones, McHenry can provide the contrast
Who is our Dusty Martin?
Oh wait, it was Jarrod Lyons.....
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A bigger deal out west.
Yes and no with Matt Crouch decline. He is definitely a foot soldier and does need good players around him to truly excel. Very similar to Thommo in that if he is your best mid, you have a lot of problems. Right now though, a large portion of his decline is just work rate. He's just not putting the effort in. 2 tackles, 1 mark a game from an inside midfielder is dire.
Whether that's an undisclosed injury, he's unfit, just he needs to be reminded at the level he needs to be at or has become too arrogant to work hard, well we'll find that out in the next month.
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Seems bad enough we made by memory Lyon and Greenwood into super stars but holy hell some posters making CEY who was a plodder that we delisted twice and brought back as rookie into a super star .
