Changes round 4 VS Sydney

[larrikin]

I am 100% confident McGovern would do a better job playing as the 2nd forward alongside Kennedy than Darling is. AA CHB or not.

I don't disagree. But what do you lose from the backline?

 

[avishka5]

Plugger !

Hopefully I can do a pluggable and look borderline anorexic but I love vodka cranny's too much.

 

[avishka5]

Next week we read:

" Darling out for Five as ankle takes longer than thought to heal ."

Sadly that's about how much faith I have in our Medicos .

Maybe they can bring Mitch Brown to play as a small Forward.

 

[domo]

Firstly Yeo is starting to play great footy in a settled position. No way do we stuff him around like last season moving him around playing different roles.

Agree that being too predictable kicking inside our forward 50 doesn't help JK but last week we ignored his leads quite a few times in the first half. That's all good if the second KP forward is reliable and can take the heat. That's the problem here, Darling is struggling as our second KP forward. Last week we should cut him some slack because he rolled his ankle in the first 5 minutes but still soldiered on but we desperately need to find a way to get more out of both JK and Darling more consistently and most definately playing away from home.

Gov as our CHF and releasing Darling more would help three ways, JK would be better off, Darling as well and we also bring in a true lock down tall backman. Our back six are not tight enough IMO, we have Gov, Yeo, Barrass, Wellingham and Hurn all playing loose and looking to take intercept marks. That is not a balanced defense, its a loose defense and its bleeding too many goals. We need one lock down KP defender and we have two pretty decent ones playing WAFL.

I think anyone who played in Darling's spot (2nd key forward) would have a shit time of it given the way the midfield isn't working. Every club in the league would be crying out for a player like Darling.. the shit he cops is way overblown. Yeah he makes mistakes, does some stupid shit with his head throw backs etc. If Gov was there he's be in the same boat with everyone spewing that he didn't get 20 disposals every week.. and the beloved "goes missing" horseshit.
Sure, Darling kicks 2-3 goals and we'll win most games I get that. That's what we want. But he's not the problem, again it's midfield.

I'm bit torn for sure, as you say with Yeo looking so good so far playing in the half back line. But having Barrass and McGov both out back, who both can intercept gives me comfort in moving Yeo to midfield and leaving him there - AND it also solves the backline balance problem. AND puts some chunky meat into the middle!!

 

[ChampRevesby]

I think anyone who played in Darling's spot (2nd key forward) would have a shit time of it given the way the midfield isn't working. Every club in the league would be crying out for a player like Darling.. the shit he cops is way overblown. Yeah he makes mistakes, does some stupid shit with his head throw backs etc. If Gov was there he's be in the same boat with everyone spewing that he didn't get 20 disposals every week.. and the beloved "goes missing" horseshit.
Sure, Darling kicks 2-3 goals and we'll win most games I get that. That's what we want. But he's not the problem, again it's midfield.

I'm bit torn for sure, as you say with Yeo looking so good so far playing in the half back line. But having Barrass and McGov both out back, who both can intercept gives me comfort in moving Yeo to midfield and leaving him there - AND it also solves the backline balance problem. AND puts some chunky meat into the middle!!

I agree regarding Darling, the only knock I can give him is his drop off in defensive pressure. He used to be a beast when it came to pressure and tackling when he didn't have the ball, not so much anymore.

 

[Monocle]

I agree regarding Darling, the only knock I can give him is his drop off in defensive pressure. He used to be a beast when it came to pressure and tackling when he didn't have the ball, not so much anymore.

Spot on Champs his tackling and attack on the opposition ball carrier when he first came in was a treat to watch.
Haven't seen much of that for three years now.
Been replaced by staging for and playing for free kicks unfortunately !!! and it's one of my bug bears with Simmo as Jack should have been read the riot act an an ultimatum should have been given early last year " cut the staging out of your game " or you get dropped regardless of how many goals you have kicked in the game.
His ferocious tackling was not only a weapon of his to personally maximise benefit from , it also was of great assistance to his fellow forwards.
It's part of a bigger gripe for me as I think some of the hardness and intensity from the 2015 team has disapayted and consequently we certainly are not as formidable an opponent as we once were.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Sheppard in some doubt according to Afl.com

 

[avishka5]

Darling dropped off soon as he broke up with his stunning ex.

 

[wraglesweb]

Hopefully I can do a pluggable and look borderline anorexic but I love vodka cranny's too much.

The skinny plugger is not the real plugger !!

 

[Monocle]

Sheppard in some doubt according to Afl.com

If that's the case would be nice to see # 38 get his first game.

Mutimer is getting closer to playing game number 1.

 

[Biggie]

Big on Mutimer Monocle?

 

[flyinghi64]

Pav was all Australian CHB then became AA CHF.
Whats better to have in your team, Best CHB or best CHF???

Goals win games so I would prefer best CHF, particularly given our defensive stocks.

 

[Monocle]

Big on Mutimer Monocle?

Yes I am Biggie as I think he can play. Don't think he will ever be a champion but I am hopeful that he can carve out an AFL career for himself.
I was impressed with his run and carry at the Dandenon Stingrays he has the ability to spread the field, it got him noticed and picked for Vic Cty. He appears to be one of those players who plays better with smarter players around him. He has been one of the few better performers for East PERTH this year .
Has good pace and seems to have a high Footy IQ.

 

[ChampRevesby]

Yes I am Biggie as I think he can play. Don't think he will ever be a champion but I am hopeful that he can carve out an AFL career for himself.
I was impressed with he run and carry at the Dandenong Rangers he has the ability to spread the field, it got him noticed and picked for Vic Cty. He appears to be one of those players who plays better with smarter players around him. He has been one of the few better performers for East PERTH this year .
Has good pace and seems to have a high Footy IQ.

I hope he gets a game soon, really looking forward to seeing what our young blokes can do with more senior and experienced guys around them. Its sad to see so many floundering at EP at the minute.

 

[avishka5]

Mutimer is going to be a +300 gamer for us.

 

[Chris_6678]

Mutimer is going to be a +300 gamer for us.

Nah you are.

 

[avishka5]

I

Nah you are.

I would have but I got fat instead.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

I
I would have but I got fat instead.

So did Gov, but look at him now..

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I agree with McGov and Barass playing the intercept backmen, but three is too many. So Yeo goes to midfield. When Eric (banana man) was playing well he also was good on the intercept and as a bigger body option. We've got ShowField as an option too if we need a more mobile running backman. I'd rather have Yeo and Wellingham go into the centre. Hurn, Masto and Jetta should be used at halfback/wings to deliver ball out of defense. Kicking and or carrying the ball. Butler is also decent kick both sides of his body and can carry. His spot is shared with Nelson, who is his apprentice.

We have the best forward options in our clubs history IMO. But they cop so much crap ironically and unfairly because our midfield has been mostly bombing bandits. Which is therefore a personnel issue not in the forward line - but in the centre. And also coaching issue by playing the same plodding bomb squad players and/or accepting or coaching their bombing ways (if that's the strategy geez!!). Granted, with Nic Nat out we rarely see a clean centre break away from us.. But even when he was playing we get sharked way too often in the centre bounces. We need our mids to clear and or carry the ball to at least the front of the 50m line to draw out defenders and give our forwards space to lead and or compete without being double teamed. That's why Wellingham and Yeo (with Shuey-Sheed) should be there and we might have half a chance of busting out of centre bounces and scrums they mostly end up becoming. If no one comes to them they take inside 50 and shoot themselves. There goes your "predictability" and JK only focus. Which makes it easier for JK anyway too! They can't afford to scrag the ba-jesus out of him double teaming.

In what games did you see Yeo with clean hands from the centre bounce downs? I have been watching him in games and took a keen interest in his involvement during drills over the summer and he is not great at reading the ball from the ruck and he does not extract. What he does very well is get separation once he has the ball and he is wonderful in traffic. Please let's not make him something he will struggle with. He has now found his niche and we should let him stay put.

 

[Obeanie1]

I don't agree with moving the best CHB in the comp forward on a whim that it might work.

Would you prefer the best CHF in the comp or the best CHB?

We won't be winning interstate with the current set up and we have quality KP defenders playing WAFL.

Does this team want to win premierships or be happy getting a couple more AA CHB honors and getting toweled up at the MCG?

Because that's what going to keep happening if we don't improve and change something.

 

[Obeanie1]

I don't disagree. But what do you lose from the backline?

We lose a quality intercept marking defender who plays loose.

However that can be covered by Barrass and Yeo who both play similar styles as does Wellingham and Hurn. All are very good marks in defense. We improve the balance in the back six bringing in a lock down KP defender who takes the best forward and shuts them down.

By a country mile our defensive quality and depth is the strongest part of the list.

 

[WCE Wizard]

Surely it's time for McGovern forward. Barrass Yeo and Scho can handle the backline!

McGovern must play forward

Carn Simmo don't be lame

McGovern is a key needs to be forward and kick a few goals

 

[Obeanie1]

I think anyone who played in Darling's spot (2nd key forward) would have a shit time of it given the way the midfield isn't working. Every club in the league would be crying out for a player like Darling.. the shit he cops is way overblown. Yeah he makes mistakes, does some stupid shit with his head throw backs etc. If Gov was there he's be in the same boat with everyone spewing that he didn't get 20 disposals every week.. and the beloved "goes missing" horseshit.
Sure, Darling kicks 2-3 goals and we'll win most games I get that. That's what we want. But he's not the problem, again it's midfield.

I'm bit torn for sure, as you say with Yeo looking so good so far playing in the half back line. But having Barrass and McGov both out back, who both can intercept gives me comfort in moving Yeo to midfield and leaving him there - AND it also solves the backline balance problem. AND puts some chunky meat into the middle!!

Darling 190cm v McGovern 196cm.

McGovern is very, very strong overhead in a contest and on the lead. Teams have worked out that Darling loves bigger defenders who can't match his agility or run, Darling struggles with mid sized defenders who can stay with him. So the opposition plays a good medium defender on Darling and their two main KP defenders take care of Kennedy.

Structurally that isn't good for our set up at at.

If McGovern plays forward teams will need to play their two best talls on each of them, no teaming up on Kennedy. Darling is released to roam a bit and rest forward. Throw a Vardy in a pocket and the opposition tall defense is looking left, right and sideways. Darling uses his running power to lose his opponent up the field then runs back inside 50.

ATM both our forward line and back lines are not balanced IMO in the types of talls we are playing at either end and McGovern forward could very well get the right balance at both ends.

 

[Beutbrute]

I wonder who comes in if Darling doesn't get up tomorrow - Schofield with McGovern swinging forward?

You're onto it!


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[Obeanie1]

Well Darling out Schofield in.

Bring it on Govenor!!!!!!!!!1